Date: 9/30/23 8:57 pm From: Adam Wachtel <adamw6...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] possible Gray Catbird in Watsonville
Last week in Watsonville I heard a probable Gray Catbird in the thicket off
of the side of a trail near the airport. I am hoping to get some thoughts
or confirmation. It sounded different than the majority of Gray Catbird
I’ve seen elsewhere (Mostly on the upper Arkansas River).
Audio and video attached.
Unfortunately, despite the number of employees of nearby businesses that
walk the path daily, it turns out that it is private property, so I’m
conflicted about posting the exact location.
Date: 9/30/23 4:32 pm From: Pete Sole <pete...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] JOOA Immature Yellow-crowned Night-heron
Hi birders,
A bit more information on this bird.
First, to give credit to whom it is due. The immature
YELLOW-CROWNED-NIGHT-HERON was found by Dessi S. on 9/22. This is the
second record of this species in the area. As others have noted, an
earlier record dates back to Sept/Oct 1981. Great find by Dessi! And
thanks to a young man, who's name escapes me now (senior moment), who
put me on the bird this morning.
On to today's report. Given that the night-heron was across the pond, a
fair distance away, and in overcast misty light, my photos are not good.
Probably the best of the dubious bunch is:
For more details, photos and other interesting birds (2 continuing
TROPICAL KINGBIRDS), see today's ebird report here:
https://ebird.org/checklist/S151106915
Fun birding weather today!
Pete Solé
On 9/30/23 10:43 AM, Pete Sole wrote:
> Hi birders,
>
> Just out of our area, there is an immature Yellow-crowned Night-heron at Año Nuevo State Park.
> Seen across the pond from gps location (37.1184517, -122.3126078). Images and more information to come on eBird.
>
> Fun birding,
>
> Pete Sole’
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
That bird was present 12 Sep–17 Oct 1981. So it might stick around for
another couple of weeks if the past is any predictor. It was a second
cycle bird.
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 14:48:31 -0700, David Ekdahl <decvmbb...> wrote:
>Amazing, as this is the same place and date (almost) that Connie and I saw our only Yellow-crowned Night-Heron in California (28-Sep-1981)!
>
>David Ekdahl
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Amazing, as this is the same place and date (almost) that Connie and I saw our only Yellow-crowned Night-Heron in California (28-Sep-1981)!
David Ekdahl
> On Sep 30, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Pete Sole <pete...> wrote:
>
> Hi birders,
>
> Just out of our area, there is an immature Yellow-crowned Night-heron at Año Nuevo State Park.
> Seen across the pond from gps location (37.1184517, -122.3126078). Images and more information to come on eBird.
>
> Fun birding,
>
> Pete Sole’
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Date: 9/30/23 10:43 am From: Pete Sole <pete...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] JOOA Immature Yellow-crowned Night-heron
Hi birders,
Just out of our area, there is an immature Yellow-crowned Night-heron at Año Nuevo State Park.
Seen across the pond from gps location (37.1184517, -122.3126078). Images and more information to come on eBird.
Date: 9/29/23 4:01 pm From: Jasper Barnes <jasper.barnes...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Sage thrasher at New Brighton
Not sure how this happened again either. Currently in campground by event
ramada in bushes. Note that driving through the campground without a
campsite pass is not allowed so any observers will have to walk up from the
day use lot
Early this morning, we found a spotting scope handle in the overflow parking lot at Wilder Ranch State Park. We suspect it was dropped there yesterday. If you believe it belongs to you, get in touch with me at the address below and describe it, so I can return it to its owner.
Date: 9/27/23 6:54 pm From: Nicholas Levendosky <n.levendosky...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Warbler, Maybe Blackburnian, at Wilder
The Blackburnian Warbler was seen again around 6:30 this evening in a large mixed flock. It was seen in the willows across the tracks and south of its previously reported location.
36.959599, -122.086573
Nick Levendosky
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 15:22 James Maughn <jamaughn...> wrote:
Date: 9/27/23 3:22 pm From: James Maughn <jamaughn...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Warbler, Maybe Blackburnian, at Wilder
Hi all, Not totally sure about this ID, but there is what I think is a Blackburnian Warbler in the willows along the railroad tracks at Wilder Ranch, just opposite the empty ag field you see as you come in the main entrance. These are the willows you'd pass walking towards the North entrance to Old Cove/Ohlone Bluff trails. See the map here: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/185201984
You may need to zoom in on it. I am also attaching a rough photo of the bird.
Date: 9/27/23 12:04 pm From: Jane Orbuch <jorbuch...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
Hi Ebird editors,
I understand your reluctance to use Merlin for sound ID—as I myself I have found many errors particularly with Oak titmouse. As mentioned below, what about including recording of so called "rare "bird in Ebird? I have done that when I use merlin with Ebird—that seems to be pretty good evidence?
Also, Merlin seems biased towards east coast birds—is there any way you editors can send misidentified recordings to Cornell to help improve the ID?
Thanks,
Jane O—Santa Cruz
> On Sep 26, 2023, at 12:58 PM, <dominikmosur...> wrote:
>
> As a fellow reviewer I can wholeheartedly agree with Don on the fallibility of Merlin.
>
> Anyone who’d like to troubleshoot the app yourself, run the audio ID next time you’re listening to a Northern Mockingbird. The AI will confuse the better mimicry for the species being mimicked.
>
> A couple of weeks ago a birder identified a wrentit in a small urban park next to the bay in San Francisco through Merlin and sent me the recording… distant calls of a Western Gull.
>
> However while many tout the app as a great learning tool I have my reservations on this point. It’s been my experience over the past couple of years while leading walks geared primarily for beginners and as the use of Merlin increases, that people who use Merlin are learning very little when it comes sound identification. While this app has excellent potential for things like analyzing data from field recorders and the like, in the hands of the average user it may turn out to have some very negative consequences.
>
> Dominik Mosur
> San Francisco
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 26, 2023, at 08:49, Don Roberson <creagrus...> wrote:
>>
>> Larry — I’m one of the eBird editors for Monterey County.
>>
>> When I chose to mark a record in eBird as “unconfirmed,” I’m required to give at least a reason from a pull-down list of various reasons one would not approve a record. I can also add comments.
>>
>> Two of those “unconfirm” reason are
>>
>> Merlin ID—Documentation Inadequate
>> Merlin ID—Species Misidentified
>>
>> I use the first of those two reasons to unconfirm a record when the only details are “Merlin said it was a whatnot.” What Merlin “says” is not a reason to identify anything. Merlin is good at some things, and is very helpful in learning vocalizations or bird i.d., but it is just another tool. It is like a birding Field Guide. We do not accept records in eBird if the details are “it looked like the field guide.” Same for Merlin. On some specific species, it makes mistakes often. For some species, field guides can be misleading.
>>
>> So, in short, you should not enter any bird into eBird when your only evidence is “Merlin told me.” This is particularly important when dealing with a rarity. For us to accept a rarity, we need details written by the observer to explain why they made a particular identification, or have a photo or sound recording. However, it is okay to write “Merlin told me that a Red-eyed Vireo was singing, so I searched for that bird, and saw it, and here’s the photo I took of that bird.”
>>
>> An editor like me can review the photo, and if it does not show a Red-eyed Vireo, I might use the second “unconfirm” reason of the two dealing with Merlin.
>>
>> Does that answer your question?
>>
>> Thanks, Don
>>
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Date: 9/26/23 12:58 pm From: <dominikmosur...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
As a fellow reviewer I can wholeheartedly agree with Don on the fallibility of Merlin.
Anyone who’d like to troubleshoot the app yourself, run the audio ID next time you’re listening to a Northern Mockingbird. The AI will confuse the better mimicry for the species being mimicked.
A couple of weeks ago a birder identified a wrentit in a small urban park next to the bay in San Francisco through Merlin and sent me the recording… distant calls of a Western Gull.
However while many tout the app as a great learning tool I have my reservations on this point. It’s been my experience over the past couple of years while leading walks geared primarily for beginners and as the use of Merlin increases, that people who use Merlin are learning very little when it comes sound identification. While this app has excellent potential for things like analyzing data from field recorders and the like, in the hands of the average user it may turn out to have some very negative consequences.
Dominik Mosur
San Francisco
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 26, 2023, at 08:49, Don Roberson <creagrus...> wrote:
>
> Larry — I’m one of the eBird editors for Monterey County.
>
> When I chose to mark a record in eBird as “unconfirmed,” I’m required to give at least a reason from a pull-down list of various reasons one would not approve a record. I can also add comments.
>
> Two of those “unconfirm” reason are
>
> Merlin ID—Documentation Inadequate
> Merlin ID—Species Misidentified
>
> I use the first of those two reasons to unconfirm a record when the only details are “Merlin said it was a whatnot.” What Merlin “says” is not a reason to identify anything. Merlin is good at some things, and is very helpful in learning vocalizations or bird i.d., but it is just another tool. It is like a birding Field Guide. We do not accept records in eBird if the details are “it looked like the field guide.” Same for Merlin. On some specific species, it makes mistakes often. For some species, field guides can be misleading.
>
> So, in short, you should not enter any bird into eBird when your only evidence is “Merlin told me.” This is particularly important when dealing with a rarity. For us to accept a rarity, we need details written by the observer to explain why they made a particular identification, or have a photo or sound recording. However, it is okay to write “Merlin told me that a Red-eyed Vireo was singing, so I searched for that bird, and saw it, and here’s the photo I took of that bird.”
>
> An editor like me can review the photo, and if it does not show a Red-eyed Vireo, I might use the second “unconfirm” reason of the two dealing with Merlin.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Thanks, Don
>
>
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Date: 9/26/23 9:55 am From: Cliff Bixler <clifford.bixler50...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Prairie Warbler just seen north side of trail just past RR tracks. With a mixed flock.
Date: 9/26/23 8:49 am From: Don Roberson <creagrus...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
Larry — I’m one of the eBird editors for Monterey County.
When I chose to mark a record in eBird as “unconfirmed,” I’m required to give at least a reason from a pull-down list of various reasons one would not approve a record. I can also add comments.
I use the first of those two reasons to unconfirm a record when the only details are “Merlin said it was a whatnot.” What Merlin “says” is not a reason to identify anything. Merlin is good at some things, and is very helpful in learning vocalizations or bird i.d., but it is just another tool. It is like a birding Field Guide. We do not accept records in eBird if the details are “it looked like the field guide.” Same for Merlin. On some specific species, it makes mistakes often. For some species, field guides can be misleading.
So, in short, you should not enter any bird into eBird when your only evidence is “Merlin told me.” This is particularly important when dealing with a rarity. For us to accept a rarity, we need details written by the observer to explain why they made a particular identification, or have a photo or sound recording. However, it is okay to write “Merlin told me that a Red-eyed Vireo was singing, so I searched for that bird, and saw it, and here’s the photo I took of that bird.”
An editor like me can review the photo, and if it does not show a Red-eyed Vireo, I might use the second “unconfirm” reason of the two dealing with Merlin.
Date: 9/26/23 8:33 am From: Sharon Hull <plants...> Subject: RE: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
Excellent question, Larry. This is an issue that many of us notice in ebird reports, often by novice birders who take whatever Merlin says as gospel, not realizing that it can make mistakes (I’ve had it report truly bizarre species like a Harpy Eagle in Santa Cruz!) or that reporting a bird only Merlin “heard” does not conform to the Lab’s guidance. I suspect that many seasoned birders use Merlin as an aide to our own ears but don’t report a bird heard only by Merlin. In my own case (and probably with many other older birders), my hearing is no longer sharp so when Merlin tells me it heard a particular species, it is just a clue to me to look really thoroughly for that bird because it might be present. Only if I actually see or hear it myself does it go on my ebird report. Those I bird with regularly follow the same practice.
As we all know, many new birders became active during the pandemic and the rapid spread of the Merlin app occurred simultaneously. I have certainly wondered just how badly the “heard only by Merlin” reports have affected the Lab’s data plus made the job of the ebird compilers more difficult. I am glad you posted this question on MBB – hopefully the discussion will clarify the issue.
Sharon Hull
From: <mbbirds...> [mailto:<mbbirds...>] On Behalf Of larry corridon
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 8:07 AM
To: MBB
Subject: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
I sent this question to the Cornell School of Ornithology because lately I have noticed some observations listed on e-bird that were apparently identified only by Merlin:
"If Merlin ID’s a bird but I don’t have visual or auditory confirmation from myself or another birder, should I enter it on my e-bird list submission?”
Here is the reply:
Thanks for reaching out to the Cornell Lab and for your question about which birds to report to eBird. Please report birds you personally were able to identify by sight or sound. You should not include observations made by others.
NOTE: I added the underlined portion to emphasize that I read it as Merlin as a stand alone ID should not be used to report birds on e-bird.
Whether Merlin should be used to ID certain birds, especially of uncommon or Rare birds, and then the location and time be posted on Mbb might be a point of discussion. As I see it, he difference being that e-bird data goes to a global data base and should be as accurate as possible, whereas mbb is often used as a guide for birders for possible sightings, and could be helpful.
Date: 9/26/23 8:32 am From: Ken Kellman <kkellman57...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
Larry
Who is to say that all birds reported to ebird are accurate?
Her instruction may only be about maintaining the integrity of personal
lists. You can post a Merlin recording with ID if if you think Merlin got
it right. Certainly sounds is an important component of birding. Empids are
best identified by calls so a recording is better corroboration than most
photos.
Maintaining the ebird database is a goal, but it is only as good as the
individual person who posts an observation.
Ken Kellman
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 8:07 AM larry corridon <larry961357...>
wrote:
> I sent this question to the Cornell School of Ornithology because lately I
> have noticed some observations listed on e-bird that were apparently
> identified only by Merlin:
>
> "If Merlin ID’s a bird but I don’t have visual or auditory confirmation
> from myself or another birder, should I enter it on my e-bird list
> submission?”
>
> Here is the reply:
>
> *Thanks for reaching out to the Cornell Lab and for your question about
> which birds to report to eBird. Please report birds you personally were
> able to identify by sight or sound. You should not include observations
> made by others.*
>
> *For more about eBird best practices please see this page
> <https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48000795623-ebird-rules-and-best-practices>.* >
> *Happy birding.*
>
> *Connie Kintner*
> *Bird Academy Assistant*
> *Public Information Specialist*
> *Cornell Lab of Ornithology *
>
> NOTE: I added the underlined portion to emphasize that I read it as Merlin
> as a stand alone ID should not be used to report birds on e-bird.
>
> Whether Merlin should be used to ID certain birds, especially of uncommon
> or Rare birds, and then the location and time be posted on Mbb might be a
> point of discussion. As I see it, he difference being that e-bird data goes
> to a global data base and should be as accurate as possible, whereas mbb is
> often used as a guide for birders for possible sightings, and could be
> helpful.
>
> Any comments from the birder community?
>
> Thanks and good birding,
>
> Larry
>
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Date: 9/26/23 8:07 am From: larry corridon <larry961357...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Using Merlin to report a bird ID on e-bird
I sent this question to the Cornell School of Ornithology because lately I have noticed some observations listed on e-bird that were apparently identified only by Merlin:
"If Merlin ID’s a bird but I don’t have visual or auditory confirmation from myself or another birder, should I enter it on my e-bird list submission?”
Here is the reply:
Thanks for reaching out to the Cornell Lab and for your question about which birds to report to eBird. Please report birds you personally were able to identify by sight or sound. You should not include observations made by others.
Connie Kintner
Bird Academy Assistant
Public Information Specialist
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
NOTE: I added the underlined portion to emphasize that I read it as Merlin as a stand alone ID should not be used to report birds on e-bird.
Whether Merlin should be used to ID certain birds, especially of uncommon or Rare birds, and then the location and time be posted on Mbb might be a point of discussion. As I see it, he difference being that e-bird data goes to a global data base and should be as accurate as possible, whereas mbb is often used as a guide for birders for possible sightings, and could be helpful.
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A first year male Rose-breasted Grosbeak showed up at our feeder today. What a surprise. Photo taken with an i-phone, handy little gadget.
Cindy please post to MBB. TyLaura and Betty at the The Land in Royal Oaks.
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I want to apologize for not posting our sighting this morning. I thought I had but my email is having trouble lately, things go to an Outbox without telling me and so don’t actually get sent . Got to talk to Cruzio tomorrow!
The Prairie Warbler did give us a quick hello this morning about 9:30 along the Old Cove Landing trail, just before the last curve to the overlook in the coyote brush. It was with a group of Bushtits, 2 Townsend’s Warblers, etc. and posed for half a minute . Bobbie got a good look and I had a briefer one as it turned back to look over its shoulder at me, then flew off with the flock, west over the fields. We walked on a short way, no sign of the warbler.Unfortunately that was it, no photos, no time to study further.
Date: 9/23/23 4:51 pm From: Erik Enbody <erik.enbody...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Prairie Warbler Wilder Ranch, Santa Cruz
There’s a prairie warbler on the old cove landing trail at Wilder Ranch SP
right now. On the right side of the trail while walking out. At
(36.9573426, -122.0843385). In the brush next to fence
Date: 9/23/23 2:49 pm From: Chris Soriano <soriano151...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird at Pescadero Marsh
Between the parking area on Pescadero Rd and the metal bridge. Distinct white tail tip, large size, and behavior distinguished it from a black phoebe. Big season for these distant visitors it seems!
Date: 9/23/23 12:45 pm From: Gary Martindale <garymartindale6621...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Blackpoll Warbler continuing at Garfield Park with Red-breasted Nuthatch a Chickadee. Pointed out by Gary Deghi from San Mateo. In the central pines now.
Gar Martindale Seen in central pines with Chickadees, and Sent from my iPhone
And my eBird checklist also shows a Pacific-slope / Western Flycatcher from nearly the same location & the Chestnut-sided Warbler https://ebird.org/checklist/S150519391
Thanks for the encouragement from birders that spent some time with me there, and everywhere else!
I'm forwarding this notice of a fun event to MBB on behalf of San
Francisco Bay Bird Observatory. SFBBO is based in Santa Clara Co., but
they are sponsoring the Santa Cruz Co. Breeding Bird Atlas project, so
they are a good organization to support, even for SCZ partisans.
Looking forward to seeing some photos from SCZ , SBT, or even MTY posted
to the Big Day group.
*The Bird Photo Big Day <https://www.sfbbo.org/birdphotobigday.html> is
tomorrow, Saturday, September 23!* Join us to work together as a team to
photograph as many bird species as possible in a single day. All levels
of birders and photographers are welcome. You can participate from
anywhere! Our record last year in the Bay Area was 202 species. Can we
beat that number for the Bay Area? How many species will we get around
the world?
_How to participate:_
* Join the Bird Photo Big Day Facebook Group
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/birdphotobigday> - that's where all
the action takes place. On September 23, take photos of as many bird
species as you can find, and upload them to the Facebook group by
12pm Pacific Time on Sunday, September 24! Remember to include the
species name if you know it and the location where the photo was
taken. Caption each image individually if uploading multiple at once.
* OR if you don't have a Facebook account or have trouble uploading
your photos, email your pictures to <slao...> and we will post
them for you!
* Don't want to take photos but still want to participate? The team
needs folks to help identify bird species and cheer the team on!
This event is part of SFBBO's annual California Fall Challenge (CFC)
<https://www.sfbbo.org/cfc.html> fundraiser with a goal to raise $40,000
to support our work to /inform, inspire, and involve/ more communities
in our avian science, habitat restoration, and education work.
*Donations of $80 or more are eligible to receive our new 2023 CFC
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This morning, we went down to Parajo Dunes to look for a RUDDY TURNSTONE that had been reported there...and found it among a nice bunch of other shorebirds.
After entering the complex, we parked at Sanderling Circle and took the nearest path to the beach.There were shorebirds of various sizes along the surfline, and a few were poking through piles of seaweed on the beach to the left/south of us. We soon spotted the RUDDY TURNSTONE among those birds. However they all scattered soon after that, so we continued walking south to see if we could re-find them. Further down the beach, slightly inland--near the Snowy Plover protected area, the turnstone reappeared, and we got good looks at it!
Birds seen in the area...
RUDDY TURNSTONE, one
SNOWY PLOVER, several
SEMI-PALMATED PLOVER, one or two
SANDERLING, lots
WILLET, lots
LONG-BILLED CURLEW, lots
BLACK-BELLIED PLOVER, severalELEGANT TERNS, a small flock
WESTERN GULL, a few...
Worth the trip...!
Judy Donaldson & Bonnie Bedzin
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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 1:35:55 PM UTC-7 <grrrrr......>
wrote:
>
> At 13:25 today. It was just 50-100 feet inside the gate if you turn left
> as soon as you enter the main gate on foot
>
> Mac Macmillan
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Date: 9/21/23 9:26 am From: Erik Enbody <erik.enbody...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Possible Virginias Warbler Bethany Curve, Santa Cruz
I had a very brief and backlit view of what appeared to be a Virginias Warbler about 30minutes ago at Bethany Curve. In the big cypress south of Oxford on Bethany Curve. It was very well hidden and secretive and could not be refound after the initial glimpse. There are quite a few dull Yellow Warblers around to add confusion to the mix.
Date: 9/19/23 8:57 pm From: Jaclyn Tolchin <jaclyntolchin...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] ROCK WREN at Yellow Bank Beach
A few more details on accessing Yellow Bank Beach - at the north end of the
gravel parking area there is a path down to Panther beach, the path is a
little bit rough. Once at Panther Beach you'll see the arch/tunnel on the
left that leads to Yellow Bank. The tunnel can be wet at high tide, don't
get stranded over there! Cool beach, very neat cliff faces.
The bird moved around a lot, so just check anywhere along the cliffs, high,
low, look for movement.
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:02 PM Abram Fleishman <abfleishman...>
wrote:
> Richard Callow reported a ROCK WREN at yellow bank beach on the 16th. It
> was refound this morning by Paul Heady. His directions were “
> Go through the arch to the beach to the south. There is a brushy gully and
> it was in the mouth of that. “
>
> I failed to find it where Paul saw it and had given up and had walked back
> to the top of the cliff and decided to
> from the top for a moment. I had walked the top and was headed back to my
> car when Jac Tolchin texted me that she had found it from the beach!! I
> went to the cliff edge above her and sure enough the wren was there! It was
> seen from here by looking over the cliff.
> (36.9917199, -122.1689585)
> Honestly I do not recommend it as the cliff is a crumbling pile of @&$&
> so do be careful if you go!!!!!!!
> -Abram
>
> Sent from my phone
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Date: 9/19/23 8:49 pm From: Pete Sole <pete...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Re: Caution and interesting sparrows 9/18 (Swanton Pond)
Hi birders,
First, thanks to Dominik, David, Lisa, Shantanu, and Jeff for
responding. It's unanimous. The first 2 birds are Savannah Sparrows, and
the third bird is a Song Sparrow.
Second, I encourage folks to send out emails asking for ID
clarifications. We all learn from it, and it helps keep our birding
community vibrant. Four suggestions if you try this:
a. Provide good photos or other documentation, and take a stab at a
tentative ID in your post.
b. Thank the community both publicly and privately for their responses.
Even if you disagree.
c. Circle back with the broader community and let them know where the ID
landed. Folks are often curious.
d. Finally, do NOT be afraid of mistakes or failure. As long as you are
respectful, you will find that the Santa Cruz birding community is
incredibly generous with their knowledge. And the birds, well I've never
had a House Finch gripe when I called it a Purple Finch, or vice-versa.
Speaking of failure. I must confess. My evil plan to inflate my
in-county bird species list, with a Vesper Sparrow, failed miserably.
But as a birding mentor (Todd) once told me: "If you are not making
mistakes, you are not trying hard enough". 25+ years later, I'm still
making mistakes Todd! 😂
Fun birding, and thanks again to those that responded.
Pete Solé
Soquel, CA
On 9/19/23 10:02 AM, Pete Sole wrote:
> Hi birders,
>
> First a caution, if you go up to Swanton Pond, please stay clear of
> the squash / pumpkin patch, including the edge of the field. We were
> asked yesterday to not damage the plants and to not step on the
> runners. If you damage the plants or runners, they won't produce anymore.
>
> Now for the birds. I photographed a number of interesting birds that
> I'm not 100% convinced of the ID:
>
> 1. Perhaps a VESPER sparrow, but a Savannah Sparrow in bright light is
> more likely. Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918a.jpg >
> 2. Another likely Savannah Sparrow but much darker (maybe just
> lighting), quite different from what I'm used to seeing on the coast.
> This one I'm pretty confident of the id but... Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918b.jpg >
> 3. I'm thinking this is a wet, scruffy Song Sparrow, but... Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918c.jpg >
> Other interesting birds included the continuing CLAY COLORED SPARROW,
> a PALM WARBLER, and a WESTERN KINGBIRD. Images on the ebird report
> from yesterday: https://ebird.org/checklist/S150216369 >
> Any thoughts on the 3 interesting sparrows? Thanks in advance.
>
> Good birding,
>
> Pete Solé
>
> Soquel, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Date: 9/19/23 8:02 pm From: Abram Fleishman <abfleishman...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] ROCK WREN at Yellow Bank Beach
Richard Callow reported a ROCK WREN at yellow bank beach on the 16th. It
was refound this morning by Paul Heady. His directions were “
Go through the arch to the beach to the south. There is a brushy gully and
it was in the mouth of that. “
I failed to find it where Paul saw it and had given up and had walked back
to the top of the cliff and decided to
from the top for a moment. I had walked the top and was headed back to my
car when Jac Tolchin texted me that she had found it from the beach!! I
went to the cliff edge above her and sure enough the wren was there! It was
seen from here by looking over the cliff.
(36.9917199, -122.1689585)
Honestly I do not recommend it as the cliff is a crumbling pile of @&$& so
do be careful if you go!!!!!!!
-Abram
Date: 9/19/23 12:06 pm From: Lisa Larson <lisafaylarson...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Caution and interesting sparrows 9/18 (Swanton Pond)
Hi Pete! Nice shots! I love the one of CCSP taking off.
Yes, Savannah Sparrow's. The Swanton area, including El Jarro Point was
part of my Atlas block one year. I recorded quite a but of Savannah Sparrow
breeding activity out there and bucketfuls of Song Sparrows. And our
resident seaside White-crowned Sparrows.
Lisa
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 10:02 AM Pete Sole <pete...> wrote:
> Hi birders,
>
> First a caution, if you go up to Swanton Pond, please stay clear of the
> squash / pumpkin patch, including the edge of the field. We were asked
> yesterday to not damage the plants and to not step on the runners. If
> you damage the plants or runners, they won't produce anymore.
>
> Now for the birds. I photographed a number of interesting birds that I'm
> not 100% convinced of the ID:
>
> 1. Perhaps a VESPER sparrow, but a Savannah Sparrow in bright light is
> more likely. Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918a.jpg >
> 2. Another likely Savannah Sparrow but much darker (maybe just
> lighting), quite different from what I'm used to seeing on the coast.
> This one I'm pretty confident of the id but... Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918b.jpg >
> 3. I'm thinking this is a wet, scruffy Song Sparrow, but... Image:
> http://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/odd/sparrow_230918c.jpg >
> Other interesting birds included the continuing CLAY COLORED SPARROW, a
> PALM WARBLER, and a WESTERN KINGBIRD. Images on the ebird report from
> yesterday: https://ebird.org/checklist/S150216369 >
> Any thoughts on the 3 interesting sparrows? Thanks in advance.
>
> Good birding,
>
> Pete Solé
>
> Soquel, CA
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: 9/19/23 10:02 am From: Pete Sole <pete...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Caution and interesting sparrows 9/18 (Swanton Pond)
Hi birders,
First a caution, if you go up to Swanton Pond, please stay clear of the
squash / pumpkin patch, including the edge of the field. We were asked
yesterday to not damage the plants and to not step on the runners. If
you damage the plants or runners, they won't produce anymore.
Now for the birds. I photographed a number of interesting birds that I'm
not 100% convinced of the ID:
Other interesting birds included the continuing CLAY COLORED SPARROW, a
PALM WARBLER, and a WESTERN KINGBIRD. Images on the ebird report from
yesterday: https://ebird.org/checklist/S150216369
Any thoughts on the 3 interesting sparrows? Thanks in advance.
Date: 9/16/23 12:10 pm From: Brian Schnack <theschnack...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Report from Nico Schnack
From Nico Schnack:
This morning I had a Tennessee warbler on the marsh trail at Rancho del Oso, and I’m currently viewing a brewers sparrow on the west cliff stretch of Bethany Curve.
Cheers all,
Brian
Sent from phone. Go Hawkeyes. Play rugby. Beat Navy.
Date: 9/16/23 11:16 am From: Sharon Hull <plants...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] I Lighthouse Field
This place is hopping this morning. There is an actual fall out of red breasted nuthatch. So far our count is up to 11. The rose breasted grosbeak, the clay colored sparrow, my first yellow rumped warbler of the fall -all so much fun to watch! This is all near the two big clumps of poison oak and the cypresses around them in the middle of the dry grassy field.
Sharon & Lois
Date: 9/14/23 6:41 pm From: Lawrence from California <lawrencemathewseeberger...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Mysterious Passerine at Lighthouse Field
It looks Warbler-shaped, but it does not look like any bird I am familiar
with. It looks has a white eye-ring but no strike through. The undersides
don’t have any streaking. It looks very tan rather than yellow, but it
could be a lighting trick. This was seen around noon at the same place in
Lighthouse Field where many rare birds were seen previously, so maybe
someone else has also seen this bird. My best guess is it’s an
exceptionally pale Yellow Warbler, but I am far from certain.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:37 PM Arthur Macmillan <grrrrrrrrrr8...>
wrote:
> Did I say Pacific-slope Flycatcher? I guess the correct name is Western
> Flycatcher. It seems to make sense, but the old name is bound to keep
> slipping out by accident for a while. Maybe longer!
>
> -Mac
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:07 PM David Apgar <d_apgar...> wrote:
>
>> Alas, the Pacific-slope flycatcher is no more. It has rejoined the ranks
>> of Western flycatcher.
>>
>> David Apgar
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of
>> Arthur Macmillan <grrrrrrrrrr8...>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 1:38 PM
>> *To:* mbbirds <mbbirds...>
>> *Subject:* [MBBIRDS] Lighthouse field yesterday from 16:00 to 19:30.
>> Costa's Hummingbird? Northern Waterthrush?
>>
>> Sorry to drag my feet on this. Yesterday I ran into some really
>> experienced birders. Lee, David, Alex...I don't want to spell their names
>> wrong...
>>
>> Anyway the big excitement for me (I thought) was getting good photos of a
>> Red-breasted Nuthatch, Pacific Coast Flycatcher, Western Tanager, and a
>> couple Warblers I am uncertain of.
>>
>> ...but David Fickel and I decided to stay until the last dog was hung.
>> So even when I thought it was too dark to see, he was pointing out strange
>> hummingbirds. Surprisingly some of my photos came out better than
>> expected. They could be of Costa's hummingbird.
>> Also, we believe we heard a Northern Waterthrush, and my phone Merlin,
>> and Davids both detected it. We thought we got glances but it was just too
>> hard to get a shot of. I think others may have glimpsed it.
>>
>> I've have to go now. This info is provisional, of course, but I will
>> post photos later. I am not experienced with Costas (or Black-chinned
>> Hummingbirds). I'm just putting it out there if someone wants to take a
>> look. it was in the Painted Bunting area near willows and a little drainage
>> depression through the poison oak and berries and near some junipers. Good
>> luck!
>>
>> -Mac Macmillan
>>
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>
Date: 9/14/23 2:37 pm From: Arthur Macmillan <grrrrrrrrrr8...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Lighthouse field yesterday from 16:00 to 19:30. Costa's Hummingbird? Northern Waterthrush?
Did I say Pacific-slope Flycatcher? I guess the correct name is Western
Flycatcher. It seems to make sense, but the old name is bound to keep
slipping out by accident for a while. Maybe longer!
-Mac
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:07 PM David Apgar <d_apgar...> wrote:
> Alas, the Pacific-slope flycatcher is no more. It has rejoined the ranks
> of Western flycatcher.
>
> David Apgar
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of
> Arthur Macmillan <grrrrrrrrrr8...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2023 1:38 PM
> *To:* mbbirds <mbbirds...>
> *Subject:* [MBBIRDS] Lighthouse field yesterday from 16:00 to 19:30.
> Costa's Hummingbird? Northern Waterthrush?
>
> Sorry to drag my feet on this. Yesterday I ran into some really
> experienced birders. Lee, David, Alex...I don't want to spell their names
> wrong...
>
> Anyway the big excitement for me (I thought) was getting good photos of a
> Red-breasted Nuthatch, Pacific Coast Flycatcher, Western Tanager, and a
> couple Warblers I am uncertain of.
>
> ...but David Fickel and I decided to stay until the last dog was hung. So
> even when I thought it was too dark to see, he was pointing out strange
> hummingbirds. Surprisingly some of my photos came out better than
> expected. They could be of Costa's hummingbird.
> Also, we believe we heard a Northern Waterthrush, and my phone Merlin, and
> Davids both detected it. We thought we got glances but it was just too
> hard to get a shot of. I think others may have glimpsed it.
>
> I've have to go now. This info is provisional, of course, but I will post
> photos later. I am not experienced with Costas (or Black-chinned
> Hummingbirds). I'm just putting it out there if someone wants to take a
> look. it was in the Painted Bunting area near willows and a little drainage
> depression through the poison oak and berries and near some junipers. Good
> luck!
>
> -Mac Macmillan
>
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Date: 9/14/23 1:38 pm From: Arthur Macmillan <grrrrrrrrrr8...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Lighthouse field yesterday from 16:00 to 19:30. Costa's Hummingbird? Northern Waterthrush?
Sorry to drag my feet on this. Yesterday I ran into some really experienced birders. Lee, David, Alex...I don't want to spell their names wrong...
Anyway the big excitement for me (I thought) was getting good photos of a Red-breasted Nuthatch, Pacific Coast Flycatcher, Western Tanager, and a couple Warblers I am uncertain of.
...but David Fickel and I decided to stay until the last dog was hung. So even when I thought it was too dark to see, he was pointing out strange hummingbirds. Surprisingly some of my photos came out better than expected. They could be of Costa's hummingbird. Also, we believe we heard a Northern Waterthrush, and my phone Merlin, and Davids both detected it. We thought we got glances but it was just too hard to get a shot of. I think others may have glimpsed it.
I've have to go now. This info is provisional, of course, but I will post photos later. I am not experienced with Costas (or Black-chinned Hummingbirds). I'm just putting it out there if someone wants to take a look. it was in the Painted Bunting area near willows and a little drainage depression through the poison oak and berries and near some junipers. Good luck!
Date: 9/12/23 3:42 pm From: 'Cindy Cummings' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Birds in Royal Oaks
Posting for a friend:
Greetings from the Land. We had our first Golden-crowned Sparrow today. Also seen this week.
Sept 2: a female Yellow Warbler stopped off at our bird bath in our Willow woods. Sept 3: a female Townsend Warbler also stopped at our Willow woods bird bath. Sept 10: a female Black-throated Gray Warbler stopped by at the bird bath Sept 10: a male Townsend Warbler stopped by the bird bath Sept.11: Female Western Tanager Sept. 12: Gold-crowned Sparrow
Happy Birding, Laura and Betty The Land in Royal Oaks
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We've all heard it, and no doubt said it ourselves, "It's probably a Red-tail." Lots of birding wisdom rests in that statement, but why? Why is the Red-tail so important for birders? What do birders need to know? Check it out with BIRD BOMBS this Thursday.
Date: 9/9/23 7:20 pm From: Steven Tucker <seagullsteve...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Re: Ruby-throated Hummingbird at El Carmelo Cemetery in Pacific Vrove
Hi all, since this bird is still being reported as of today, figured I
should provide an update and food (nectar?) for thought. There has been a
similar looking Black-chinned Hummingbird (BCHU) in apparently the same
spot since September 6, with the last definitive pics of the Ruby-throated
Hummingbird (RTHU) that have so far been posted to eBird also from
September 6 (so both were certainly present that day). Some of the
subsequent RTHU reports appear to pertain to the BCHU - if you have
reported the RTHU in recent days, I encourage you to upload pics to your
eBird checklists and/or consider if you may have seen the BCHU instead. It
would be good to establish when the RTHU was last present - perhaps today,
perhaps not.
Steve Tucker
Salinas
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 9:57 AM Steven Tucker <seagullsteve...> wrote:
> Appearing very regularly at
> 36.6316950, -121.9318116
>
> Steve Tucker
> Salinas
>
Date: 9/8/23 9:21 pm From: Lisa Larson <lisafaylarson...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Santa Cruz Homeless Garden Access
Great news! Thank you for the update!
Lisa
On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 10:50 AM Pablo <pheady3...> wrote:
> I just spoke with Danny the manager at the Santa Cruz Homeless Garden on > the west side of Santa Cruz. He says despite the fence and no trespassing > signs birders are welcome. The fence is to keep the deer out and the signs > are there so they can ask campers to leave. Danny hopes us birders will > continue birding on the property. > Enjoy > > Paul Heady > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mbbirds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mbbirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<0024F678-AAF8-44A4-9283-046A204D82F9...> > . >
Date: 9/8/23 1:41 pm From: Kate Edwards <kmedwards400...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] LARK SPARROW at Lighthouse Field
Happened upon a sparrow with bold, wide, black and brown face markings and a clear breast. Got some poor digiscoped photos but you can make out the face patterning. Initially spotted foraging on ground near wood chip pile by the Monarch Grove, but was very skittish and flew east towards the church. I wonder if it was the same individual from Antonelli.
Thanks Paul! Last time I was there the signs and fence made me feel
unwelcome so it’s nice to know why they are there!
-Abram
Sent from my phone
On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 10:50 Pablo <pheady3...> wrote:
> I just spoke with Danny the manager at the Santa Cruz Homeless Garden on
> the west side of Santa Cruz. He says despite the fence and no trespassing
> signs birders are welcome. The fence is to keep the deer out and the signs
> are there so they can ask campers to leave. Danny hopes us birders will
> continue birding on the property.
> Enjoy
>
> Paul Heady
>
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Date: 9/8/23 11:07 am From: Bob <meadsbob...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Santa Cruz Ironman will disrupt birding Sunday 10th Sept
This Sunday the Ironman will restrict access to many of our favorite spots from Westside Santa Cruz north to Pigeon Point. Highway 1 will be closed 7am to 9.30am going north, 8.15 to 11.45 driving south.
The run is along West Cliff and through Natural Bridges and Wilder Ranch.
Date: 9/8/23 10:50 am From: Pablo <pheady3...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Santa Cruz Homeless Garden Access
I just spoke with Danny the manager at the Santa Cruz Homeless Garden on the west side of Santa Cruz. He says despite the fence and no trespassing signs birders are welcome. The fence is to keep the deer out and the signs are there so they can ask campers to leave. Danny hopes us birders will continue birding on the property.
Enjoy
Date: 9/8/23 9:53 am From: Phil Brown <pdpbrown...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Re: Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
Hi David and Kent, for some reason these messages got flagged by Google as
spam, and as the moderator I had to manually release them. I got the
message late, and so the email went out late. Phil
On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 9:13 AM David Sidle <dsidle...> wrote:
> Dear MBB,
>
> FYI, I "sent" this email Friday at 5pm and it finally delivered Tuesday
> morning, not sure what's up with that. Yes, the gull departed that evening
> and was not refound. I did get to see the bird and it was a very beautiful
> breeding plumaged adult.
>
> I also go to see the continuing Northern Gannet in Half Moon Bay, visible
> from the end of the Johnson Pier on the closest jetty, near the diamond
> shaped sign.
>
> Two California mega-rarities within one hour.
>
> Sorry about the delayed email!
>
> David
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kent Johnson <kentjohnson...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:04 AM
> *To:* David Sidle <dsidle...>; Mbb Birds <
> <mbbirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San
> Mateo County
>
> David and MBB,
>
> Unless you have different information, the bird has not been seen since 1
> Sept. 2023.
>
> --- Kent Johnson
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of
> David Sidle <dsidle...>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 5:08 PM
> *To:* Mbb Birds <mbbirds...>
> *Subject:* [MBBIRDS] Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in
> San Mateo County
>
> Please excuse the (not that far) out of area post, thought MBB birders
> might wanna know: as of 5pm 9/1/23 the SWALLOW-TAILED GULL is sleeping at
> San Gregorio State Beach in San Mateo County. I understand the bird does
> have a black head, though it is apparently tucked in. I believe this would
> be a sixth record for California. I will be heading up there soon, unless
> I hear that it's flown away.
>
> Just the messenger,
> David Sidle
> Santa Cruz
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> on
> behalf of C Lou <cdlou37...>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 5:03 PM
> *To:* Aaron Maizlish <amm.birdlists...>; Penbirds <
> <peninsula-birding...>; <calbirds...> <
> <calbirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull
>
> Bird was still sleeping on beach at 430pm. In gull flock.
>
> Calvin Lou
> SF
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Aaron Maizlish <amm.birdlists...>
> Date: 9/1/23 3:17 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Penbirds <peninsula-birding...>, <calbirds...>
> Subject: [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull
>
> Currently looking at one at San Gregorio State Beach south of Half Moon Bay
>
> Aaron Maizlish
> San Francisco
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Date: 9/8/23 9:13 am From: David Sidle <dsidle...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Re: Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
Dear MBB,
FYI, I "sent" this email Friday at 5pm and it finally delivered Tuesday morning, not sure what's up with that. Yes, the gull departed that evening and was not refound. I did get to see the bird and it was a very beautiful breeding plumaged adult.
I also go to see the continuing Northern Gannet in Half Moon Bay, visible from the end of the Johnson Pier on the closest jetty, near the diamond shaped sign.
Two California mega-rarities within one hour.
Sorry about the delayed email!
David
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From: Kent Johnson <kentjohnson...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:04 AM
To: David Sidle <dsidle...>; Mbb Birds <mbbirds...>
Subject: Re: Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
David and MBB,
Unless you have different information, the bird has not been seen since 1 Sept. 2023.
--- Kent Johnson
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From: <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of David Sidle <dsidle...>
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 5:08 PM
To: Mbb Birds <mbbirds...>
Subject: [MBBIRDS] Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
Please excuse the (not that far) out of area post, thought MBB birders might wanna know: as of 5pm 9/1/23 the SWALLOW-TAILED GULL is sleeping at San Gregorio State Beach in San Mateo County. I understand the bird does have a black head, though it is apparently tucked in. I believe this would be a sixth record for California. I will be heading up there soon, unless I hear that it's flown away.
Just the messenger,
David Sidle
Santa Cruz
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From: <peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> on behalf of C Lou <cdlou37...>
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 5:03 PM
To: Aaron Maizlish <amm.birdlists...>; Penbirds <peninsula-birding...>; <calbirds...> <calbirds...>
Subject: Re: [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull
Bird was still sleeping on beach at 430pm. In gull flock.
Date: 9/8/23 9:12 am From: Kent Johnson <kentjohnson...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Re: Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
David and MBB,
Unless you have different information, the bird has not been seen since 1 Sept. 2023.
--- Kent Johnson
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From: <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of David Sidle <dsidle...>
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 5:08 PM
To: Mbb Birds <mbbirds...>
Subject: [MBBIRDS] Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
Please excuse the (not that far) out of area post, thought MBB birders might wanna know: as of 5pm 9/1/23 the SWALLOW-TAILED GULL is sleeping at San Gregorio State Beach in San Mateo County. I understand the bird does have a black head, though it is apparently tucked in. I believe this would be a sixth record for California. I will be heading up there soon, unless I hear that it's flown away.
Just the messenger,
David Sidle
Santa Cruz
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From: <peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> on behalf of C Lou <cdlou37...>
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 5:03 PM
To: Aaron Maizlish <amm.birdlists...>; Penbirds <peninsula-birding...>; <calbirds...> <calbirds...>
Subject: Re: [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull
Bird was still sleeping on beach at 430pm. In gull flock.
Date: 9/7/23 1:43 pm From: Matthew McKown <matthew.mckown...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Lark Sparrow still at Antonelli pond (13:30)
First spotted in willows at SE edge of Antonelli pond. Then flew to clump of willows out in the grassy area, and on to a dead tree on NE side of pond. Seems to come back to SE corner near Delaware after jaunts to the north.
Date: 9/5/23 9:21 am From: David Sidle <dsidle...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Out of Area: FW [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull in San Mateo County
Please excuse the (not that far) out of area post, thought MBB birders might wanna know: as of 5pm 9/1/23 the SWALLOW-TAILED GULL is sleeping at San Gregorio State Beach in San Mateo County. I understand the bird does have a black head, though it is apparently tucked in. I believe this would be a sixth record for California. I will be heading up there soon, unless I hear that it's flown away.
Just the messenger,
David Sidle
Santa Cruz
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From: <peninsula-birding...> <peninsula-birding...> on behalf of C Lou <cdlou37...>
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 5:03 PM
To: Aaron Maizlish <amm.birdlists...>; Penbirds <peninsula-birding...>; <calbirds...> <calbirds...>
Subject: Re: [pen-bird] Swallow Tailed Gull
Bird was still sleeping on beach at 430pm. In gull flock.
Date: 9/5/23 8:17 am From: Stephanie Martin <martins4...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird at Wilder Ranch
Eastern Kingbird is presently flycatching in the chaparral beside Old Cove Landing trail at Wilder. At the mouth of the cove where the harbor seals haul out.
Date: 9/3/23 8:25 am From: Don Roberson <creagrus...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Moonglow Dairy -- sad news
The owner of Moonglow Dairy, Louis Calcagno, passed away on Thursday, August 31. For over 45 years, Louis had permitted birders to visit Moonglow Dairy, and its unique habitats — freshwater pond adjacent to tidal slough, its cattle pens with thousands of blackbirds, and its location below raptor migration paths. As most of you know, Moonglow was open only from Friday to Sunday this year, during Elkhorn Slough habitat management. Lou was also moving towards retirement with his wife. When we were there yesterday, at least half of the cows were gone; I’ve been told they all will be moved out, and cattle pens removed. We don’t know what future access to Moonglow will be like, or if the public will have access at all.
I first met Lou, and his father (then-owner of Moonglow) in October 1978 when I asked permission to bird his property for a Big Day on 7 October 1978. They granted permission, and during the Big Day my team discovered what we call “pond #1” had Pectoral Sandpiper and a Bank Swallow, and the blackbird flocks. I continued to bird Moonglow when I visited, and more often when I moved to Pacific Grove in 1979. Over time the concept of public access was discussed, and Lou was very cooperative. He believed in preserving the environment and enjoyed talking to birders. He was a gracious gentlemen always. Rita and I have looked forward to talking with him when he would drive by in this truck while feeding the cows. He always wanted to know what we were seeing, and often he would tell us that a bird we thought we’d discovered — say a Cattle Egret or Snow Goose — was a bird that Louis already knew was present.
We knew Lou, and his wife Carol, who still lives there, as the gracious landowners of a prime birding property. But Louis was also active in public life. This from KSBW news:
> Calcagno began his public service in Monterey County in 1980 and served for 33 years, which includes 18 years on the planning commission, and in 2014 he did not seek reelection to the board of supervisors where he had served for 16 years.
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> Calcagno represented the 3rd Supervisorial District for his first term. He described establishing MST bus service from Salinas to south county and halting mining on the Arroyo Seco River as his key accomplishments. After re-districting occurred after the 2000 census, Calcagno served three additional terms representing the 2nd District.
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> After his retirement from the board of supervisors, Calcagno said he and his wife Carol, planned to devote their future years to their family and the family business, Moon Glow Dairy. The dairy is east of Moss Landing and home to 1,000 dairy cows.
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> Calcagno died on Aug. 31 at the age of 87.
We will very much miss Lou. We will see what the future may bring for Moonglow. There will certainly be changes on the property, as the active dairy operation transitions to something new. It has been a remarkable place for decades. eBird tells me that I’ve entered 362 eBird lists, but I still have many ancient lists to enter. The times, they are a-changing.
More on Moonglow Dairy is on my web site http://creagrus.home.montereybay.com/moonglow.html but obviously the discussion there will change as conditions change. We will always have a wonderful memento of Lou, because when he upgraded the sign for Moonglow Dairy at the Dolan Road entrance, he gave us the old sign. It is now a centerpiece of our backyard deck.
I'm considering going to the Salinas rivermouth over the weekend. I haven't been there in years because of the history of car break-ins. What's the current state of affairs there?
Date: 9/1/23 5:54 pm From: Kent Johnson <kentjohnson...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Gull in San Mateo County
For those not on the pen-bird list: a Swallow-tailed Gull is currently being seen at San Gregorio State Beach. I, sadly, will not be able to look for it until tomorrow. 🙁
That is the city doing their yearly tule removal, they know what they're doing. They should be done by the first week of October.
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023, 11:56 AM David Apgar <d_apgar...> wrote:
> Disturbingly, a team has been cutting some of those reeds down this week. > I hope they know what they're doing. > ------------------------------ > *From:* <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of > Sharon Hull <plants...> > *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 11:52 AM > *To:* Mbb <mbbirds...> > *Subject:* [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird > > Still at Neary lagoon, flycatching from the reeds in the channel across > from the wastewater treatment plant. > Sharon Hull > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mbbirds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mbbirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<08054D19-B89A-45B5-9E38-4A13CEC8E95F...> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mbbirds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mbbirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<SJ0PR22MB25267698FB4A21195FB9DCBB9BE4A...> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<SJ0PR22MB25267698FB4A21195FB9DCBB9BE4A...>?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
A willow flycatcher just showed up as well around 12:30. Same location as kingbird
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 11:56 AM David Apgar <d_apgar...> wrote:
> Disturbingly, a team has been cutting some of those reeds down this week. > I hope they know what they're doing. > ------------------------------ > *From:* <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of > Sharon Hull <plants...> > *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2023 11:52 AM > *To:* Mbb <mbbirds...> > *Subject:* [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird > > Still at Neary lagoon, flycatching from the reeds in the channel across > from the wastewater treatment plant. > Sharon Hull > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mbbirds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mbbirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<08054D19-B89A-45B5-9E38-4A13CEC8E95F...> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "mbbirds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mbbirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<SJ0PR22MB25267698FB4A21195FB9DCBB9BE4A...> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mbbirds/<SJ0PR22MB25267698FB4A21195FB9DCBB9BE4A...>?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
Date: 9/1/23 11:56 am From: David Apgar <d_apgar...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird
Disturbingly, a team has been cutting some of those reeds down this week. I hope they know what they're doing. ________________________________ From: <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> on behalf of Sharon Hull <plants...> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 11:52 AM To: Mbb <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Eastern Kingbird
Still at Neary lagoon, flycatching from the reeds in the channel across from the wastewater treatment plant. Sharon Hull
Date: 9/1/23 11:52 am From: <chucao...> Subject: RE: [MBBIRDS] Willow Flycatcher at Tyrell Park
Hi
Looks like a juvenile Willow to me, based on bill size and dusky wash to mandible. Overall brown coloration. Wing bars can be bright cinnamon like this on juveniles of the more northern migratory western populations.
From: <mbbirds...> <mbbirds...> On Behalf Of Lawrence from California
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 11:49 AM
To: <mbbirds...>
Subject: [MBBIRDS] Willow Flycatcher at Tyrell Park
Am at Tyrell Park rn. Just saw an Empidonax flycatcher with very thin eyering and contrasting throat. Color is very wrong for Western/Pacific-Slope
Unrelated but since it’s here, you can also go to the museum free rn, and there will be a bird event later today.
Date: 9/1/23 11:52 am From: Michael Bolte <mjbolte...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] EASTERN KINGBIRD at Neary Lagoon Sept 1, 11am
The EASTERN KINGBIRD reported early this morning (Sept 1) by William Lawton and Gary Kittleson was still there at 11am. It was seen working the reeds in the canal that parallels the treatment plant and also in the treatment plant.
