Date: 7/1/25 9:27 am From: nlethaby via groups.io <nlethaby...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Pelagics on Island Packers website now fully visible
All,
It was brought to my attention that some of the pelagics out of Ventura were not visible on the Island Packers website. This is now resolved and both the Aug 9 and Sep 7 trips are now visible, in addition to the Aug 7, Sep 5, Oct 12 and 14 trips.
The Aug 9 trip has just two spaces left.
Regards,
Nick Lethaby Goleta, CA <nlethaby...> +1 805 284 6200
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Date: 6/24/25 7:46 am From: Christopher Taylor via groups.io <ctaylor...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Fw: [OrangeCountyBirding] Red-necked Stint - Bolsa Chica
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:53:13 -0700 From: "Ryan Winkleman via groups.io" <rswinkleman...> Subject: [OrangeCountyBirding] Red-necked Stint - Bolsa Chica To: Orangecountybirding <OrangeCountyBirding...> Reply-To: <rswinkleman...> Message-ID: <CAHKMXHOt9C0sxkTKDCmYJkFC9CxRR81Ti9jfg6rEbDjekQ96-A...>
Photos of a Red-necked Stint at Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve in Huntington Beach were posted to the Birding Discord server a little while ago. This is a first county record. The bird was photographed at 2:50pm today at approximately 33.6985760, -118.0437676.
Date: 6/19/25 10:45 pm From: Wim van Dam via groups.io <wim.van.dam...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] White-rumped Sandpiper, Santa Barbara County
As it is a CBRC review species, it's worth mentioning that this Thursday, a White-rumped Sandpiper was found in Santa Barbara County by Lynn Scarlett. For details: <main...> | Messages <https://sbcobirding.groups.io/g/main/messages> and eBird.
> On Jun 19, 2025, at 9:21 AM, Lisa D. Walker, (Feather Forestwalker) via groups.io <feather...> wrote:
>
> On a Facebook page in 2023, a photographer had captured a really good photo of a BLack Phoebe catching a fish at the LA Arboretum: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=5939551266083116&<set...>&idorvanity=235075475202 >
> Hope this helps.
>
> L Walker, Fort Bragg/Cleone, CA
>
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 8:30 AM Glenn Kincaid via groups.io <glenn=
<gntnz.com...> wrote:
> Yesterday at the UC Santa Barbara lagoon I saw a Black Phoebe capture and
> eat a small fish.
>
> Has anyone else witnessed this behavior with a Black Phoebe?
>
> Thanks,
> Glenn Kincaid
> Santa Barbara
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Date: 6/14/25 9:32 am From: Matt Sadowski via groups.io <sadowskimatt99...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] [LACoBirds] Swallow-tailed Kite, Ken Malloy, 14 June
The kite was just visible from the ranger station ( https://maps.app.goo.gl/7fuLi2JsMc1bXFkq6) looking NE across the lake. It was perched on a tree in the golf course, now flying around golf course (0930).
M. Sadowski
On Sat, Jun 14, 2025, 6:54 AM Justyn Stahl via groups.io <justyn.stahl= <gmail.com...> wrote:
> In view at north end at 0650 from: > 33.7907808, -118.2904266 > > Justyn Stahl et al. > San Diego > >
Date: 6/12/25 10:33 am From: Chuck & Lillian via groups.io <misclists...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Cedar Waxwing question
Dominik, Ken, anyone:
I recently tried out Merlin in my back yard, north San Fernando Valley.
I picked up a few birds - House Sparrow, House
Finch, Bewick's Wren, Northern Cardinal - according to the Merlin app.
Northern Cardinal? No way.
I can't figure out how to de-identify NoCa from
that recording as an ID'd bird or from my
so-called list of identified backyard birds,
according to Merlin without deleting birds actually really, truly present.
Any help?
Yeah, I watched a 10-minute video on how to use
Merlin. No help for this problem.
Chuck Almdale
North Hills
At 07:44 AM 6/12/2025, Dominik Mosur via groups.io wrote:
>Ken,
> re: not entering breeding codes for birds that
> do not breed in the area. this is sound advice.
>
> Unfortunately, we are now in an era where many
> new birders are going into the field, equipped
> with eBird and Merlin, and just reporting
> whatever is “identified“ by the app
> without doing any sort of research into the
> status or distribution of the Birds they are “observing�
>
>By the way, breeding codes can be obtained from
>eBird for a given area as a spreadsheet output if you requested.
>
>I have been helping a colleague of mine create a
>document of the breeding birds of the Bay Area
>and one such spreadsheet has been one of the
>resources he’s been using to compile this
>list. Greater Scaup, Harlequin Duck,
>Semipalmated Plover, Townsend’s Warbler is
>only a fraction of the list of erroneously reported Bay Area breeding birds.
>
>Dominik Mosur
>
>
>
>
>
>>On Jun 11, 2025, at 08:35, Ken Burton via
>>groups.io <shrikethree...> wrote:
>>
>>Your comment about searching Ebird for
>>breeding codes makes me think that it might be
>>worth a reminder that, as a rule, breeding
>>codes other than Confirmed should not be used
>>outside a species' breeding range.
>>
>>
>>>On Jun 10, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Ken Burton <shrikethree...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Short answer: Yes.
>>>
>>> From Birds of the World:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Pair Formation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>May begin as early as mid-Apr, during spring
>>>migration
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32600>Feltes >>>1936 [California];
>>><https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32604>Putnam >>>1949 [Ohio]). Courtship-Hopping (see Behavior:
>>>sexual behavior, above) frequently occurs at
>>>least into mid-Jun in Ohio and Ontario;
>>>courtship activity is resumed by pairs that
>>>raise second broods, beginning when
>>>first-brood nestlings are about 7 d old
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32604>Putnam >>>1949, DJM).
>>>
>>>
>>>Pair Bond
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Typical courtship display in which mates
>>>alternately approach one another on a perch
>>>with hopping movements, sometimes touching
>>>bills. Usually initiated by the male;
>>>successful when the female reciprocates
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32604>Putnam >>>1949). This display is termed the Courtship
>>>Dance or Courtship-Hopping
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF59453>Silloway >>>1904,
>>><https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF6803>Crouch >>>1936,
>>><https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF17076>Lea >>>1942). Courtship-Hopping begins in migrant
>>>flocks, and has been noted as early as Apr in
>>>California
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32600>Feltes >>>1936) and in Ohio
>>>(<https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/cedwax/cur/references#REF32604>Putnam >>>1949).
>>>
>>>On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM rfs_berkeley
>>>via <http://groups.io>groups.io >>><rscalf=<mailto:<sonic.net...><sonic.net...> wrote:
>>>
>>>On June 7 I saw a Cedar Waxwing just outside
>>>of Sierraville, CA. Sierra County. This
>>>seemed a bit surprising till I consulted eBird
>>>and see that Waxwings have been recorded in
>>>several places in the Sierra Valley region
>>>around this time. I know they are late migrants.
>>>
>>>June 8 I witnessed what looked like courtship
>>>feeding at basically the same location; an
>>>adult in classic wing-flapping begging posture
>>>being fed by another adult. This seems rather far south for breeding.
>>>
>>>My question: Do Cedar Waxwings engage in courtship behaviors on migration?
>>>
>>>As there the Central Sierra listserv no longer
>>>exists (and eBird cannot be searched for
>>>breeding codes) I'll ask the question to this larger audience.
>>>
>>>Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>> Rusty Scalf
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>
Date: 6/12/25 6:48 am From: Trish G via groups.io <trishrg62...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
Bird here now.
Seen from n parking lot off pch. Preening in liquid amber trr.
Trish Gussler, anaheim
On Mon, Jun 9, 2025, 7:23 AM Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder=
<gmail.com...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just the messenger... the Swallow-tailed Kite continues at Ken Malloy
> Harbor Regional Park in Los Angeles. The kite is currently perched on a
> snag at the north end of the lake. The north parking lot is closed, but
> street parking is available on Vermont Ave.
>
> Chris Dean
> Silver Lake, Los Angeles
>
>
Date: 6/12/25 6:46 am From: Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite in LA County
Flew in at 6:36am from the north.
Currently sitting at 33.790300,-118.290474
Thanks,
Jim
James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
Professor and Executive Vice Chair
Department of Emergency Medicine
UC Davis School of Medicine
office (916) 734-1533
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Date: 6/11/25 6:43 pm From: Leonie Batkin via groups.io <leonie.batkin23...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
[Sierra-NevadaBirds] is a forum for birding and discussing birds of the
Sierra Nevada. Includes all counties over the 400 miles from Fredonyer Pass
(Lassen Co.) in the north to Walker Pass (Kern Co.) in the south.
Good birding,
Sylvia Wright
Nevada County, Calif.
<sciencewrighterphotos...> <Sylvia.L.Wright.1...>
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM rfs_berkeley via groups.io <rscalf=
<sonic.net...> wrote:
> As the Central Sierra listserv no longer exists _._,_._,_
>
>
Date: 6/10/25 1:43 pm From: Dominik Mosur via groups.io <dominikmosur...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Cedar Waxwing question
Hi Rusty,
Per "birds of the world" account of Cedar Waxwing courtship hopping has
been noted as early as April in migrant flocks and includes passing of food
and sometimes of inedible items.
Also, while cedar waxwings are late migrants and the core of their breeding
range barely skirts the NW and NE corners of California they have been
noted breeding on a number of occasions much further from there than Sierra
Valley. Apparently they nested in Marin County in recent years, appear as
confirmed in the Napa County Atlas, and if my memory serves me once were
noted nesting in Coastal Orange County. So if you have the opportunity ,
this is an observation worth following up on.
Dominik Mosur
San Francisco
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM rfs_berkeley via groups.io <rscalf=
<sonic.net...> wrote:
> On June 7 I saw a Cedar Waxwing just outside of Sierraville, CA. Sierra
> County. This seemed a bit surprising till I consulted eBird and see that
> Waxwings have been recorded in several places in the Sierra Valley region
> around this time. I know they are late migrants.
>
> June 8 I witnessed what looked like courtship feeding at basically the
> same location; an adult in classic wing-flapping begging posture being fed
> by another adult. This seems rather far south for breeding.
>
> My question: Do Cedar Waxwings engage in courtship behaviors on migration?
>
> As there the Central Sierra listserv no longer exists (and eBird cannot be
> searched for breeding codes) I'll ask the question to this larger audience.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Rusty Scalf
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
>
>
>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:31 PM rfs_berkeley via groups.io <rscalf=
<sonic.net...> wrote:
> On June 7 I saw a Cedar Waxwing just outside of Sierraville, CA. Sierra
> County. This seemed a bit surprising till I consulted eBird and see that
> Waxwings have been recorded in several places in the Sierra Valley region
> around this time. I know they are late migrants.
>
> June 8 I witnessed what looked like courtship feeding at basically the
> same location; an adult in classic wing-flapping begging posture being fed
> by another adult. This seems rather far south for breeding.
>
> My question: Do Cedar Waxwings engage in courtship behaviors on migration?
>
> As there the Central Sierra listserv no longer exists (and eBird cannot be
> searched for breeding codes) I'll ask the question to this larger audience.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Rusty Scalf
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
>
>
>
Date: 6/10/25 1:31 pm From: rfs_berkeley via groups.io <rscalf...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Cedar Waxwing question
On June 7 I saw a Cedar Waxwing just outside of Sierraville, CA. Sierra
County. This seemed a bit surprising till I consulted eBird and see
that Waxwings have been recorded in several places in the Sierra Valley
region around this time. I know they are late migrants.
June 8 I witnessed what looked like courtship feeding at basically the
same location; an adult in classic wing-flapping begging posture being
fed by another adult. This seems rather far south for breeding.
My question: Do Cedar Waxwings engage in courtship behaviors on
migration?
As there the Central Sierra listserv no longer exists (and eBird cannot
be searched for breeding codes) I'll ask the question to this larger
audience.
Date: 6/9/25 3:14 pm From: Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
Hi,
This is my third and last update today. The kite has returned, briefly
spotted on the south end flying to the north end.
Best wishes to all who chase this fantastic bird!
Chris Dean
Silver Lake, Los Angeles
On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 2:02 PM Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder=
<gmail.com...> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Passing along an update from our local What's App group, the
> Swallow-tailed Kite at Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park "flew to the
> southwest at 12:30pm and not seen since." Many people are looking.
>
> Chris Dean
> Silver Lake, Los Angeles
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:01 PM <dtrissel...> wrote:
>
>> Continuing as of 12:00, flying over north end of lake here:
>>
>> (33.7879740, -118.2938461)
>>
>> David Trissel
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2025, at 7:23 AM, Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder=
>> <gmail.com...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just the messenger... the Swallow-tailed Kite continues at Ken Malloy
>> Harbor Regional Park in Los Angeles. The kite is currently perched on a
>> snag at the north end of the lake. The north parking lot is closed, but
>> street parking is available on Vermont Ave.
>>
>> Chris Dean
>> Silver Lake, Los Angeles
>>
>>
>
>
Date: 6/9/25 2:02 pm From: Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
Hi again,
Passing along an update from our local What's App group, the Swallow-tailed
Kite at Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park "flew to the southwest at 12:30pm
and not seen since." Many people are looking.
Chris Dean
Silver Lake, Los Angeles
On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:01 PM <dtrissel...> wrote:
> Continuing as of 12:00, flying over north end of lake here:
>
> (33.7879740, -118.2938461)
>
> David Trissel
> San Diego, CA
>
> On Jun 9, 2025, at 7:23 AM, Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder=
> <gmail.com...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just the messenger... the Swallow-tailed Kite continues at Ken Malloy
> Harbor Regional Park in Los Angeles. The kite is currently perched on a
> snag at the north end of the lake. The north parking lot is closed, but
> street parking is available on Vermont Ave.
>
> Chris Dean
> Silver Lake, Los Angeles
>
>
>
Date: 6/9/25 12:09 pm From: David Trissel via groups.io <dtrissel...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
Date: 6/9/25 7:23 am From: Chris Dean via groups.io <chrisdeanbirder...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed Kite continues Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park, Los Angeles
Hi,
Just the messenger... the Swallow-tailed Kite continues at Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park in Los Angeles. The kite is currently perched on a snag at the north end of the lake. The north parking lot is closed, but street parking is available on Vermont Ave.
Date: 6/9/25 7:22 am From: <lehman.paul...> via groups.io <lehman.paul...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Swallow-tailed kite continues
The Swallow-tailed Kite in Los Angeles County at Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park continues Monday morning, currently perched in some dead branches at the top of a tall willow tree at the north end, or perhaps more specifically the Northwest corner, of the lake.
Date: 6/6/25 8:12 pm From: Don Roberson via groups.io <creagrus...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] White-rumped Sandpiper in Pacific Grove
Rita Carratello and I found a White-rumped Sandpiper on the sandy beach on Asilomar SB, Pacific Grove, today. Many locals were able to see it late in the afternoon. It was at the little outlet creek of the Majella Slough, which forms a little puddle on the sandy beach, just south of Sunset Drive, P.G. This is essentially across the Sunset from Asilomar Conference Center, and was also at the little outlet creek and “puddle” (it was not on the rocky shore of the rest of Asilomar SB). It was rather tame but being harassed by an aggressive Killdeer, and flew off and returned several times. The beach is heavily used by dog-walkers, locals, and tourists, but it was the only sandpiper there.
Date: 6/6/25 11:43 am From: Alvaro Jaramillo via groups.io <chucao...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Pelagics - Farallon Islands, San Francisco, San Mateo and Monterey.
Hello all.
Hello all! This is a short note to let you all know that our pelagic
schedule is up online:
We begin the season later on this month with multiple trips to the Farallon
Islands, most out of Sausalito on the fast and comfortable "Outer Limits."
The summer pelagic, the earliest offshore pelagic (non-island trip) will be
on July 20 from Half Moon Bay. At that point we begin a mix of some offshore
trips, and the remaining Farallon Island trips, which end on the Aug 9 trip
from Sausalito. Some people have asked me why the Farallon trips are early
in the season, and there is an easy answer. The earlier you go, the more
breeding birds that are there. Late June should have masses of murres there,
hundreds of thousands. These birds begin to fledge throughout July and by
August it is still amazing, yet there are fewer birds than earlier in the
season. We still have spaces on the first two Farallon trips, so if you want
to be overwhelmed by nesting seabirds, give those a try.
Later on in August and September we have the peak for offshore pelagic
birds. This is the time to be out there looking for storm-petrels,
albatross, shearwaters, migrant jaegers, Sabine's Gull, alcids from the
south (offshore murrelets) and migrant terns. As the season winds down into
October, the late season species like Flesh-footed (Sable) Shearwater become
easier, as can other rarer shearwaters as well as the Short-tailed
Shearwater. Rare species can show up anytime, but the early and late
offshore trips may be luckier for those. Also, during this period is when we
will be offering our Monterey trips, which this year are all 10 hour long
(albacore grounds) trips. These have more time to go to deeper water, the
albacore water is not always there, but these get us deeper into the bay
than 8-hour trips.
There are two special trips - the San Francisco pelagic on Aug 30 which
leaves from Sausalito. We have done this trip that tries to maximize time in
SF waters off the Farallon Islands. But this year we are expanding it to a
10-hour trip, allowing us to get deeper. Similarly, the San Mateo County
pelagic on Sept 1 leaves from Half Moon Bay, and weather dependent we try to
go southwest, keeping us in San Mateo County waters for the max time on that
day. Both of these trips are great for anyone, even those not interested in
county borders, but we do make an effort to keep in county for those who are
keen on their county lists. Both counties are fantastic pelagic birding
waters, some of the best in the world.
We always make time to point out whales, dolphins, sharks, and any other
marine creature we find. That is standard on all our trips. We have plenty
of time out there to enjoy birds, as well as other critters!
You can book here, some trips are starting to get near sell out:
Date: 6/4/25 5:14 pm From: Heather Medvitz via groups.io <jhmedvitz...> Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Steve Turley.
Thank you for this message, Jim. I'm so sad to hear this news. Like all of us who birded with Steve and Becky, I so appreciated their friendship, sense of humor, and skill and Steve's quiet awareness and long-distance vision.
Heather Medvitz
On Saturday, May 31, 2025 at 12:41:42 PM PDT, Jim Moore via groups.io <moorebirder...> wrote:
It brings great sadness to announce the death of our friend Steve Turley. Becky asked me to post this message as she is grieving and needing privacy. Steve died of a stroke last Monday while hospitalized and treated for blood clots.Steve was well known in our birding community and valued due to his sharp wit, large size, friendly smile and extraordinary birding skills. His Superman eyes always were the first to get on the bird. I was always amazed at his ability spot a bird 200 yards away without the aid of binoculars and tell us its location and species.Steve was taken much too soon. Born February 12, 1950. He was the second of four brothers. His entire life was a succession of exciting jobs. He started as a young man in the Air Force assigned to a weather reconnaissance crew who flew into hurricanes. From there he served over 20 years as a Los Angeles police sergeant. When he retired, he became a golf pro. He often told stories about the many young people he taught and what good golfers they became. Added to this, Steve was also an avid bass fisherman competing in several tournaments often winning big prize money. And, he had time to become an outstanding birder. Debbie and I first met Becky in 2007 while chasing after a Greater Peewee in Griffith Park. She introduced us to Steve a few weeks later and this led to a friendship of many years, starting with a year end trip to Bosque del Apache, then twitching throughout the state or taking road trips to remote locations throughout the world. Most notable was 5 weeks together birding Australian top to bottom. And, there were many trips to Piute Ponds which would usually end at the 19th hole where we would stop on the way home at Maria Bonita’s for tacos, salsa, Blue Moon and a lot of laughs. He will be more than missed.Jim MooreSanta Clarita
Date: 6/3/25 5:32 pm From: <tgmiko...> via groups.io <tgmiko...> Subject: [CALBIRDS] Swallow tailed Kite Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park Tuesday 6/3/2025
Hi, Details are fuzzy and I'm reporting based on photos posted on Facebook (I can probably access that group but I will have to look later). The photos are definitely of a Swallow tailed Kite kite and it was supposedly taken today at Harbor the other thing I heard is that somebody named David is out there right now looking for it. Manuel tells me that it is raining heavily down in that area but I have no idea, because I'm up in the Antelope Valley working, and it's also raining up here but not too bad, but there is thunder and lightning. I just arrived at the Piute Ponds and I'm tempted to turn around and start driving straight to Torrance in case the bird is found and it spends the night there.
Thomas Geza Miko Claremont, LA County 909.241.3300 " ... there's a relationship between attention span and morality. I think that, if you shorten people's attention span a great deal, you are left with only the attraction of power."--Marcel Ophuls 1978
