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Paul Budde <buddep...> |
[mou-net] Yesterday's event on mou-net |
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Tami Vogel <tvogel...> |
Re: [mou-net] Thanks |
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Sherry Gray <0000436d53c2070c-dmarc-request...> |
Re: [mou-net] Spam Messages |
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Sherry Gray <0000436d53c2070c-dmarc-request...> |
Re: [mou-net] 1 |
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Susan Hartley <hartleysusandvm...> |
Re: [mou-net] 1 |
| 7/6/25 7:04 pm |
Justin Watts <justinwatts02...> |
[mou-net] Spam Messages |
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Ellen Doll <ellenmdoll...> |
Re: [mou-net] 1 |
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Cheryl Burgmeier <cherylb...> |
Re: [mou-net] 1 |
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Paul Budde <buddep...> |
[mou-net] Fwd: MOU website |
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Paul Budde <buddep...> |
[mou-net] MOU website |
| 6/30/25 10:15 am |
Steve Wilson <clevergrayjay...> |
Re: [mou-net] MOU-NET Digest - 27 Jun 2025 to 29 Jun 2025 (#2025-66) |
| 6/29/25 3:22 pm |
Matt Hoberg <mhoberg1...> |
[mou-net] MOU Field Trip - Bell Museum Behind-the-Scenes - July 27 |
| 6/29/25 9:57 am |
MOU <mou...> |
[mou-net] Black Bear Deterrent |
| 6/27/25 12:12 pm |
Natasha Bartolotta <natasha...> |
[mou-net] Loon Surveyors needed in Le Sueur County |
| 6/16/25 11:15 am |
Stephen Greenfield <tapaculo47...> |
[mou-net] Minnesota Global Birders, online: birding Ecuador |
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Nina Hale <ninahale...> |
[mou-net] White pigeon |
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Date: 7/7/25 2:01 pm
From: Paul Budde <buddep...>
Subject: [mou-net] Yesterday's event on mou-net |
Yesterday in the mid-afternoon someone (probably a bot) managed to sign up
for the MOU website and then start sending emails repeatedly with little or
no content. We lost count after 100. This "bot" also managed to create over
1000 RQDs. They, too, had no content of interest. All the strange phrases
you saw in those emails were also in one or more fields of the RQDs.
To address these issues, we
1. turned off the ability to send an email to the listserv from the
button in the upper right corner of the MOU home page;
2. added the email address "<mou...>" to the list of moderated
emails, meaning this email address cannot send an email to the entire
listserv; and
3. deleted the most recently added user to the MOU website (user =
"NQSJMUIn") which was almost certainly the source of the problems.
Doing (1) didn't stop the onslaught, but we plan to keep this facility
inoperative as that might have enabled the bot to create the user account.
Actions (2) and (3) seemed to immediately stop the emails. We'll leave
<mou...> moderated until it seems safe to change it -- though with (1)
turned off we can't imagine this email account would ever need to send a
message to the group. We will also investigate ways to have better control
over which user accounts can be created.
The event seems to be past us, as we haven't had any of these emails since
yesterday early evening and no new RQDs have been created. We apologize for
the annoyance it caused all of you (us).
Paul
*Paul Budde*
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Date: 7/7/25 8:44 am
From: Sherry Gray <0000436d53c2070c-dmarc-request...>
Subject: Re: [mou-net] Spam Messages |
Thank you! (Just saw this message buried under all the spam!)
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Sunday, July 6, 2025, 9:04 pm, Justin Watts <justinwatts02...> wrote:
I am sorry about the wave of messages today. A bad actor managed to work around the spam controls much to everyone's annoyance.
Posting messages from the MOU website to the listserv will be temporarily disabled while we work on the issue.
Best,
Justin Watts
Minnesota Ornithologists' Union
https://moumn.org/
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Date: 7/6/25 7:04 pm
From: Justin Watts <justinwatts02...>
Subject: [mou-net] Spam Messages |
I am sorry about the wave of messages today. A bad actor managed to work around the spam controls much to everyone's annoyance.
Posting messages from the MOU website to the listserv will be temporarily disabled while we work on the issue.
Best,
Justin Watts
Minnesota Ornithologists' Union
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Date: 7/6/25 9:35 am
From: Paul Budde <buddep...>
Subject: [mou-net] Fwd: MOU website |
The restoration of the MOU database is complete. We had to use a copy from
27 June 2025, so any work you might have done after that date through
yesterday ~Noon might be lost. HOWEVER, before we did the restore I grabbed
all new records between 26 June and yesterday, and I was able to upload
those into the restored database this morning. So, I don't think any data
was lost. What I'm not sure about is if someone uploaded a photo or audio
to support an ID between 27 June and 5 July. That media should not be lost,
but I'm not sure if it is still associated with the original record.
Please let me know if you find any problems.
Paul
*Paul Budde*
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From: Paul Budde <buddep...>
Date: Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 1:18 PM
Subject: MOU website
To: Minnesota Birds (mou-net) <MOU-NET...>
We need to do a restore of the MOU data tables, which should happen in the
next few days. In the meantime, you can continue to use the MOU website,
but know that any changes you make to the database -- sightings, ebird data
uploads, or photos added, for example -- will be lost. So, please hold off
on adding or modifying the data for a few days. We'll let you know when
the restored database is available, hopefully early next week.
Paul
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Date: 7/5/25 10:19 am
From: Paul Budde <buddep...>
Subject: [mou-net] MOU website |
We need to do a restore of the MOU data tables, which should happen in the
next few days. In the meantime, you can continue to use the MOU website,
but know that any changes you make to the database -- sightings, ebird data
uploads, or photos added, for example -- will be lost. So, please hold off
on adding or modifying the data for a few days. We'll let you know when
the restored database is available, hopefully early next week.
Paul
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Date: 6/30/25 10:15 am
From: Steve Wilson <clevergrayjay...>
Subject: Re: [mou-net] MOU-NET Digest - 27 Jun 2025 to 29 Jun 2025 (#2025-66) |
Jack,
I live in the heart of bear country (Isabella) and have been struggling with bears/feeders for years. The only things I've found that work for feeders are 1) taking in the feeder at night, 2) putting the feeder higher than the bear can reach on a pole it can't climb. For the last year we've been dealing with a 400+ pound male, which has been challenging. I put a large platform feeder on a solid 4"x4" post 8' high. It couldn't reach it but he stood on his hind legs and rocked the post back-and-forth with such force he snapped it off at ground level. I'm in the process of replacing it with a 5"x6" post. A disadvantage of this approach is the need for a stepladder to service it. And forget a hanging feeder if the pull rope is at a level the bear can reach. They'll figure it out, skip the feeder and yank on the rope/cable till all the seed is shaken out or it's pulled to the ground. I don't have a suggestion for nest boxes except for height, but I imagine people aren't going to want to haul a stepladder around for that or go to the time and expense of a telescoping pole.
Steve Wilson
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From: Minnesota Birds <MOU-NET...> On Behalf Of MOU-NET automatic digest system
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2025 12:00 AM
To: <MOU-NET...>
Subject: MOU-NET Digest - 27 Jun 2025 to 29 Jun 2025 (#2025-66)
There are 2 messages totaling 50 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Black Bear Deterrent
2. MOU Field Trip - Bell Museum Behind-the-Scenes - July 27
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 10:57:22 -0600
From: MOU <mou...>
Subject: Black Bear Deterrent
(Posted by Jack Hauser <jgshauser...> via moumn.org)
Greetings,
In the Spring edition of BBRP Newsletter, I recently read that Jean Olsen of Pine County lost
109 eggs/chicks from black bear attacks, during the 2024 nesting season.
Because bears have such a keen sense of smell and Bluebirds cannot smell, I thought maybe some form of skunk oil would deter them.
Does anyone have experience on how to deter black bears from bird feeders& nesting boxes?
Cruising the web for answers, I found "Repels-All" and Pepper Spray.
Has anyone had experience with any of these products?
Reading more closely I found that Repels-All did not include Black bears.
Jack
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 17:22:04 -0500
From: Matt Hoberg <mhoberg1...>
Subject: MOU Field Trip - Bell Museum Behind-the-Scenes - July 27
July 27: Bell Museum- Ornithology Behind-the-Scenes
10 am
In partnership with Dr Keith Barker from the University of Minnesota, Matt Hoberg will lead a unique field trip to the Bell Museum including behind-the-scenes viewing of bird specimens. This is a special opportunity to learn about ornithology research. For more information and registration (required), visit the registration page <https://www.signupgenius.com/go/10C0F48A9AC2FA5FFCE9-57136325-bell>.
Matt Hoberg
MOU Field Trip Committee Chair
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Date: 6/29/25 3:22 pm
From: Matt Hoberg <mhoberg1...>
Subject: [mou-net] MOU Field Trip - Bell Museum Behind-the-Scenes - July 27 |
July 27: Bell Museum- Ornithology Behind-the-Scenes
10 am
In partnership with Dr Keith Barker from the University of Minnesota, Matt
Hoberg will lead a unique field trip to the Bell Museum including
behind-the-scenes viewing of bird specimens. This is a special opportunity
to learn about ornithology research. For more information and registration
(required), visit the registration page
<https://www.signupgenius.com/go/10C0F48A9AC2FA5FFCE9-57136325-bell>.
Matt Hoberg
MOU Field Trip Committee Chair
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Date: 6/29/25 9:57 am
From: MOU <mou...>
Subject: [mou-net] Black Bear Deterrent |
(Posted by Jack Hauser <jgshauser...> via moumn.org)
Greetings,
In the Spring edition of BBRP Newsletter, I recently read that Jean Olsen of Pine County lost
109 eggs/chicks from black bear attacks, during the 2024 nesting season.
Because bears have such a keen sense of smell and Bluebirds cannot smell, I thought maybe
some form of skunk oil would deter them.
Does anyone have experience on how to deter black bears from bird feeders& nesting boxes?
Cruising the web for answers, I found "Repels-All" and Pepper Spray.
Has anyone had experience with any of these products?
Reading more closely I found that Repels-All did not include Black bears.
Jack
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Date: 6/27/25 12:12 pm
From: Natasha Bartolotta <natasha...>
Subject: [mou-net] Loon Surveyors needed in Le Sueur County |
Hello all,
The National Loon Center is looking for anyone residing in Le Sueur county
with knowledge of local loon sightings and who may be interested in a
potential July survey of select lakes. If you are interested, please reach
out to me at:
<natasha...>
More information below:
With our scientific advisory council, we are conducting resighting work in
southern MN lakes where a "Restore the Call" project translocated young
loons about 10 years ago. We are looking to survey lakes within about a
15km radius of the release lake, Fish Lake, in Le Sueur County.
We've been looking at MOU records and eBird sightings in this area and have
identified lakes within La Sueur, Waseca, Blue Earth, and Rice counties
that fall within that 15km radius. Please reach out to me if you have any
questions or are interested in a possible survey date later this summer.
Thank you!
Natasha
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Natasha Bartolotta
Science & Stewardship Manager
Office*:* (218) 692-LOON (5666)
Direct: (218 692-5669
14303 Gould Street, PO Box 642
Crosslake, MN 56442
*nationallooncenter.org <http://nationallooncenter.org/>*
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Date: 6/16/25 11:15 am
From: Stephen Greenfield <tapaculo47...>
Subject: [mou-net] Minnesota Global Birders, online: birding Ecuador |
The upcoming virtual meeting of the informal Minnesota Global Birders'
group will feature Minnesota birder Leslie Gillette's presentation on two
birding trips she took to Ecuador last year. Ecuador has huge diversity in
altitude and habitats, and therefore also in its avifauna. She encountered
many species of hummingbirds, tanagers, and other birds, including migrants
that come through Minnesota.
Thursday, June 26th , from 7 to 9 pm CT.
You can get more information and register for the presentation with
Eventbrite at one of the links below:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/birding-ecuador-with-leslie-gillette-tickets-1413536348269
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or
tinyurl.com/globalbirding73
After you register, you will receive instructions on how to connect to the
Zoom session, and reminder emails afterwards. (NOTE: if you register and do
not get a confirmation email from Eventbrite, or have other questions,
please send me an email.)
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Stephen Greenfield
Minneapolis
<tapaculo47...>
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Date: 6/13/25 10:45 am
From: Nina Hale <ninahale...>
Subject: [mou-net] White pigeon |
If anyone is missing an almost all white pigeon, just a little bit of black
on the back, Let me know. It’s been in my yard In Uptown Minneapolis for
the last few days.
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Nina Hale (she/her)
612-805-2071
I live on Dakota and Anishinaabe land.
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