Date: 7/10/20 10:56 am From: Brian Nicholas <weehawker2...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]swaz Ajo Sewage Ponds plovers
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There is a semipalmated plover and what looks like a snowy plover at Ajo Sewage Ponds 10:30). Description in eBIrd list. Brian Nicholas
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Seeking some adventure, my wife Erin and I did a little hiking and birding in the Huachuca Mountains this week. Yesterday we hiked from Ramsey Vista above Carr Canyon down the Comfort Spring Trail to Ramsey Canyon. One of our targets was the TROPICAL PARULA reported from Upper Ramsey last month by Ken Blankenship. We failed to find the parula where it was previously seen, near the old Tufted Flycatcher spot, but then decided to walk up canyon from the Comfort Spring junction and found the bird singing from the tops of the tall conifers about 200m upstream from the junction. This spot is very near the "Hamburg Meadow" hotspot pin on eBird.
**Note that the Ramsey Canyon Preserve is currently closed, so you cannot hike up from the visitor center to reach this area.** The Comfort Spring Trail from Carr Canyon is the best way to get to this bird, but this hike is fairly strenuous, about 2.5 miles each way through rugged terrain with quite a lot of elevation gained and lost. Iif you're up to the challenge, it is a gorgeous hike. Bring lots of water!
Date: 7/7/20 10:06 am From: Kat Cudney <kbcudney...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Re: SEAZ: Patagonia/Sonoita Creek RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER
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Found the RCWA today between 9 and 10 AM. Thanks Dave!
Katherine Cudney
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On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:08 AM, David Stejskal <dstejskal...> wrote:
Hi birders,
I was out along Blue Haven Rd. near Patagonia this morning, trying to shoot some video when I heard a RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER singing next to the road at around 9:00 a.m. I did manage to get a photo of the bird from the road after I tracked him down. The spot is along Blue Haven Road about 0.28 mile east (heading toward Patagonia) of the main gate for the TNC Sonoita Creek Sanctuary (closed) and right next to an old gate into the sanctuary. He sang intermittently for the half hour that I was there.
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:08 AM, David Stejskal <dstejskal...> wrote: > > Hi birders, > > I was out along Blue Haven Rd. near Patagonia this morning, trying to shoot some video when I heard a RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER singing next to the road at around 9:00 a.m. I did manage to get a photo of the bird from the road after I tracked him down. The spot is along Blue Haven Road about 0.28 mile east (heading toward Patagonia) of the main gate for the TNC Sonoita Creek Sanctuary (closed) and right next to an old gate into the sanctuary. He sang intermittently for the half hour that I was there. > > Good luck if you go to try to see him! > > Good birding, > > Dave Stejskal > Field Guides Inc. > > Sent from my iPhone Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 7/6/20 10:07 am From: David Stejskal <dstejskal...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Patagonia/Sonoita Creek RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER
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Hi birders,
I was out along Blue Haven Rd. near Patagonia this morning, trying to shoot some video when I heard a RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER singing next to the road at around 9:00 a.m. I did manage to get a photo of the bird from the road after I tracked him down. The spot is along Blue Haven Road about 0.28 mile east (heading toward Patagonia) of the main gate for the TNC Sonoita Creek Sanctuary (closed) and right next to an old gate into the sanctuary. He sang intermittently for the half hour that I was there.
Date: 7/5/20 11:06 am From: Brian Nicholas <weehawker2...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]For eBirders: "My eBird" page redesign
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Hi Scott, thanks for the tip on eBird. Changing the filter at the top left to the day does bring all the species seen for that day, which can be viewed in taxonomic order. I wish there was a way to easily see totals for each, but by clicking on each species you can see the total for each checklist submitted and add fairly quickly before moving on to the next species. Thanks again for the tip,Brian Nicholas On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:01:57 AM MST, Scott Crabtree <the.crabtrees51...> wrote:
Brian, Playing around with the web presence (not the app), it appears that you might get what you need in My eBird -> Explore ... My Sightings List. On the left. There are a lot of filters there which give you some granularity. Scott Crabtree On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Brian Nicholas <weehawker2...> wrote:
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I noticed that the "summarize your observations," option has been discontinued. This was invaluable for logging species totals for the day during CBC's (and Birdathon). I hope they replace it with something before December. Brian Nicholas On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 09:04:57 AM MST, Mark Stevenson <drbrdr...> wrote:
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Hi Birders,
eBird redesigned the My eBird page, making lots more info available. Lots of info for listophiles and some new info for checklistophiles.
Date: 7/5/20 10:02 am From: Scott Crabtree <the.crabtrees51...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]For eBirders: "My eBird" page redesign
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Brian,
Playing around with the web presence (not the app), it appears that you might get what you need in My eBird -> Explore ... My Sightings List. On the left. There are a lot of filters there which give you some granularity.
Scott Crabtree
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Brian Nicholas <weehawker2...> wrote:
> *External Email* > I noticed that the "summarize your observations," option has been > discontinued. This was invaluable for logging species totals for the day > during CBC's (and Birdathon). I hope they replace it with something before > December. > > Brian Nicholas > > On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 09:04:57 AM MST, Mark Stevenson < > <drbrdr...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Hi Birders, > > eBird redesigned the My eBird page, making lots more info available. > Lots of info for listophiles and some new info for checklistophiles. > > Details here: > > New ways to explore your activity on My eBird > > https://ebird.org/news/updated-my-ebird > > Mark Stevenson > Tucson, AZ > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
We arrived at the Herb M Campground yesterday around 3 pm an have been camped there since, with occasional forays up the North Fork of Cave Creek and another fork which may be called Ash Spring. No quetzals. A territorial Elegant Trogon that may have a nest on the creek below the campground has come into the campground on occasion.
Hi, I noticed this weekend on the internet information that we saw the Quetzal at the John Hand Campground. We never saw it there: we only saw it at 7:30 p.m. Thursday night at Herb Martyr Campground and then again very early Friday morning somewhere between 5:45 and 6:15 a.m. A strategy that might help you see the bird would be to sit in the closest, left camping tent spaces between the trees at Herb Martyr Campground in a chair leaning back, facing vaguely in the direction of the cinder block toilet building, and to the right of that direction. I would be there in the last hour or hour and a half before sundown, and at sunrise.
Thomas Geza Miko Claremont, LA County 909.241.3300 Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 7/3/20 9:00 pm From: Andrew Core <tucsonrba...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]RBA Tucson, AZ - 3 July 2020
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Hello Birders,
This update of Tucson Audubon Society's Rare Bird Alert for Southeast Arizona was made on July 3, 2020; the next update will be made on July 10. Phone your reports to 520-629-0510 X 3, or email to rarebirdalert AT tucsonaudubon.org.
SEVERAL IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS follow the sightings, including information on temporary closures and rules for access to other important birding areas. Abbreviation "m.ob." = multiple observers. An asterisk (*) preceding a species name in the list indicates that it merits careful, full documentation. A pound sign (#) indicates that brief corroborating details are warranted. Documentation and photos of review species may be submitted at http://www.azfo.org/gallery/1main/whatIsABC.html.
ACCESS NOTE: Many areas remain closed due to COVID19, such as the Paton Center for Hummingbirds in Patagonia and Nature Conservancy properties (i.e., Ramsey Canyon, Patagonia-Sonoita Creek). The Catalina Highway up Mt. Lemmon is closed at the base due to the Bighorn Fire, and Ft Huachuca is only issuing new passes to local residents. If in doubt, call ahead.
PORTAL & the CHIRICAHUAS (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/XfXfX) After a week absence the *EARED QUETZAL was reported again briefly along FR42A at the John Hands picnic area on 7/2 and 7/3 (Tom Miko). #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRDS continued in two different locations this week – along FR42A near the cabins and in the South Fork of Cave Creek Canyon (m.ob.). For the second week in row the only report of the *CRESCENT-CHESTED WARBLERS was a heard-only report very early on 7/1 (Rose Ann Rowlett). Map: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L5495120. #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued in a yard in Whitetail Canyon this week (Rick Taylor). In Portal, a #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD was reported from Bob Rodrigues's yard (http://ebird.org/ebird/hotspot/L994658) on 6/28 (Bob Rodrigues).
SIERRA VISTA & the HUACHUCAS In upper Ramsey Canyon, a *TROPICAL PARULA was reported on 6/26 (Ken Blankenship, Allee Forsburg). Like the 2018 bird, has been seen and heard singing between the overlook and the first stream crossing. NOTE: Ramsey Canyon Preserve is currently closed and access to this area is only from Brown Canyon or Carr Canyon – long, strenuous hikes. See https://www.facebook.com/groups/arizonabirding/permalink/3047564585330975/ or https://hikearizona.com/map.php?QX=9377 for more details. On Ft. Huachuca, the*TROPICAL PARULA in Huachuca Canyon at the 1.7-mile parking area was not reported this week, but could still be around. Note access requirements above regarding the pass. In Miller Canyon, #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) about 100 yards before Split Rock (about a mile from the parking area). A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued through 7/2 (m.ob.). At least one of the #HOODED WARBLERS continued through 6/30 (Joe Woodley). #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued at Ash Canyon Bird Sanctuary (m.ob.). and in several yards on the east flank of the Huachucas this week (m.ob.).
TUBAC area (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/yDqi0) Multiple *ROSE-THROATED BECARDS continued about 0.7 miles north of the Tubac bridge this week (m.ob.). In Montosa Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/8L8tv) #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued this week (m.ob.) near the culvert, upstream of the concrete stream crossing.
WILLCOX A #SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER was photographed at Lake Cochise by the Twin Lakes Golf Course in Willcox on 7/2 (Steve Nord).
TUCSON area An #ALLEN’S HUMMINGBIRD was reported from a yard in Oro Valley on 7/2 (John B.).
NOGALES area #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJARS continued this week (m.ob.) at the south end of California Gulch at the confluence with Warsaw Canyon. Annotated map: http://goo.gl/wSr0mi. A #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJAR was reported in Sycamore Canyon on 7/2 (Bob Orenstein). Two pairs (plus young) of #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS were photographed on 6/28 (Keith Kamper) and continued on 7/1 (Cathy Beck). The first pair was near the confluence with Montana Canyon and the second pair 1.5 miles further down the canyon.
BUENOS AIRES NWR #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJAR continued in the Brown Canyon section of Buenos Aires NWR (https://ebird.org/hotspot/L7699167) through 7/2 (James Purcell) on the publicly accessible (east) side of the gate. There are three cattle guards on Brown Canyon Rd (#102) leading up to the security gate, which is 3.5 miles from Hwy 286. In past years the best location for hearing a nightjar is between the third cattle guard and the gate but they have been heard at all three cattle guards. Photo opportunities may be limited as the better habitat is not adjacent to public access along Rd 102 (see map here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QeU5ec7Kr0oknsozu-yHfw2RzQKnBVsL/view?usp=sharing ). Another area is along BANWR Rd 148 (high clearance recommended) – the turnoff is just before the first cattle guard. DO NOT ACCESS BY FOOT OR BY VEHICLE- the private land holding north of Rd 102 as shown on the map (between cattle guards #1 and #2). DO NOT ENTER the roads leading to the coral and watering facility. Faded signs indicating “Stay Out” are posted but could be easily missed. Access to State Trust Land must be done with proper state permits. For details regarding access to the restricted area (west of the gate) contact the refuge headquarters (520.823.4251 ext 101).
GREEN VALLEY & the SANTA RITAS In Florida Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/AAzD6), #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) in the West Fork near the dam. Directions: About 400 yards from parking lot is a metal gate, and just past the gate the canyon forks. The main trail follows the East Fork, but most sightings have been in the West Fork to the right. About 125 yards up the rough trail in the West Fork is a large water tank and a low dam. The oak grove is about 1/3 mile past the dam. Note: The trail for the West Fork can be difficult to find, and is steep and rough in places. If you see the sign with distances to Florida Saddle, Madera Canyon, etc you've missed the turn. It is not necessary, recommended or permissible to enter the research station to see these birds. A #HOODED WARBLER was reported on 6/23 (Eric Kallen). #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued in Florida Canyon this week (m.ob.); they've been seen near the Florida Canyon parking area and a short distance up the trail, and at the old corral at FR488 & 62A. In Madera Canyon (map: http://goo.gl/dXBYP), a #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD continued at the Santa Rita Lodge this week through 7/1 (m.ob.). In Box Canyon (map: http://bit.ly/BoxCanyonAZ), a #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRD continued this week (m.ob.). A #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHER was reported on 6/29 (Cathy Beck).
The Pima County Regional Wastewater Reclamation Department security procedures are subject to change any time. Please see the "bird watching" link on this page for important information regarding access: http://webcms.pima.gov/government/wastewaterreclamation/
RAMSEY CANYON - Ramsey Canyon Preserve is closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
ASH CANYON B&B: open dawn to dusk EXCEPT Thursday, when open noon to dusk. Parking is limited; please carpool whenever possible. No need to call ahead.
FORT HUACHUCA - access requirements are posted on its official webpage at https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/visitor-information. The Visitor Control Center is located at the Van Deman Gate on Hwy 90. The fort is an active military installation and will suspend your driving privileges on Post for 30 days on your first offense for talking or using a cell phone while driving. You MUST use a hands free device. Current entry requirements (subject to change without notice): US citizens must pass a background check and should be prepared to show photo ID for everyone in the vehicle at the entrance, and possibly your vehicle registration and insurance as well. Foreign nationals must be accompanied by an approved military escort; contact the base (520.533.7111), or possibly the Sierra Vista Visitor's Bureau (520.417.6960) well in advance. ACCESS NOTE: apparently some states driver's licenses do not meet federal requirements for base entry (KY, ME, MT, PA, SC, MN, MO, and WA); see https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs for details.
SANTA CRUZ FLATS: Management at the Evergreen Turf Sod Farm has asked birders not to drive into the property (i.e., the 2750 road); birding from perimeter roads (i.e., Tweedy or Pretzer) is still fine.
AVRA VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. Gates open 7AM and close PROMPTLY at 2PM (do not linger, you will be locked inside).
GREEN VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. When open (usually weekends), use the call box at the gate, sign in and out at the office, and stay away from buildings and construction equipment.
ROGER ROAD WRF, CORONA DE TUCSON WRF, and NOGALES STP: Closed.
Hi, Bad cell to non-existent cell reception. Last night 7:30 pm and 600 or 630 am. Herb Martyr Campground. See eBird reports for how to see the bird (male). Bird never called. We will be in better cell reception areas in a few hours (noon?) or earlier.
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Date: 7/2/20 9:41 am From: Brian Nicholas <weehawker2...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]For eBirders: "My eBird" page redesign
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I noticed that the "summarize your observations," option has been discontinued. This was invaluable for logging species totals for the day during CBC's (and Birdathon). I hope they replace it with something before December. Brian Nicholas On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 09:04:57 AM MST, Mark Stevenson <drbrdr...> wrote:
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Hi Birders,
eBird redesigned the My eBird page, making lots more info available. Lots of info for listophiles and some new info for checklistophiles.
Date: 7/1/20 6:16 pm From: Richard Webster <webster.re...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Crescent-chested Warbler continuing in West Turkey Creek, Chiricahua Mtns
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Hi Folks:
Rose Ann Rowlett heard one singing this morning around 5:30 a.m. from the little loop that is at the far eastern end of East Turkey Creek Road, which is in West Turkey Creek, which has its own Crescent-chested Warbler hotspot on eBird if you are new to these records of up to three birds this year. My microphone recorded what Rose Ann's ears were hearing, but my ears didn't hear what hers were hearing. It was brief and not loud. We spent several hours in the area, and never did see one or hear it again. It was pleasant birding otherwise, with "good stuff" like Greater Pewee, Sulphur-bellied and Buff-breasted Flycatchers, and Mexican Chickadees. We camped in a nice dispersed site, and Sycamore Campground was open. This was our first visit there this year, so we can't put it in context with earlier and apparently much easier times.
Richard
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Hi Birders: A good day today at Beatty's CAS feeders, both for number of birds and hummingbird species diversity. As usual, Broad billed, Black chinned, and Rivoli's dominated the feeders. However, a brilliant male Rufous made occasional appearances. Anna's was also observed. Not 100% sure, but a female type Broad tailed also showed up with some regularity. Undoubtedly, though, the stars of the show were the White eareds. Before I got there at 7:30, a father/daughter pair reported that a juvenile male had made an appearance. Shortly thereafter, a female patronized feeder C for some time. Later, both the female and male juvenile returned and provided good looks. Finally, around 1:00 p.m., the adult male came into a feeder, and later, when I was the only observer, he cooperatively perched on a branch for decent pics. I left around 2:00 p.m. Feeder C still seems to ground zero for this species, although there were sightings at other feeders as well. A few other species visiting included Spotted Towhee, Painted Redstart, and Brown Creeper. Cheers, Thor
Date: 7/1/20 1:04 pm From: Tom Barnwell <barnwell...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Catalina State Park Birding
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For those that bird in Catalina State Park, I talked to park staff today and they are planning on reopening July 5. They said it was tentative, so check before going.
The Bighorn fire crew is moving over to the east side of Tucson and they are cleaning up the park for reopening.
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One change that is of particular interest to myself from a trip to the Olympic Peninsula a couple years ago, is the removal of the "Northwestern Crow", a species that has caused ID angst and aggravation amongst birders for years. No more! The former species "/Corvus caurinus/ is recognized as representing a geographical trend, rather than a species or subspecies" and has been "merged [with American Crow] based on genomic data" [etc.] Although many will be losing this species on their life list, it'll sure make things a lot easier in the Pacific NW. (I never got a NW Crow lifer in the NW trip, but I did end up with a few crow slash/species on my eBird lists for the area. So that clears those up).
********************* On the other hand, *good news* for everyone birding in Arizona, etc. - as a change long suspected to be coming, (and already implemented by eBird, though not technically "officially" at the time), Mexican Duck (now /Anas diazi/) has been elevated to full species status by the AOS, and is no longer part of Mallard (/A. platyrhynchos/). *********************
So, lose one, gain one...
Full info on both species changes can be found in the supplement. (Most of the other changes in the supplement pertinent to the ABA area deal with the usual slew of species/genus renaming, rearrangements, restructuring and the like).
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Date: 6/30/20 6:03 am From: John Groves <jgstudio...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ-White-eared Hummingbird, Foothills Road feeders, Portal
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Hi All
Did I see that there is a second (different) Quetzal in the familiar location?
John Groves Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Bob Rodrigues <brod410...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Hi folks, > This morning (28 June) I saw an adult male White-eared Hummingbird outside the front window. The bird briefly investigated a red plastic seed feeder and a hummingbird feeder but did not drink. I saw the bird at close range for one minute or less without binoculars. The broad white eye stripe was clearly evident and the gorget/breast flashed bright green occasionally as the sun hit it. After having a quick look at the two feeders the hummingbird flew off and I did not see it again. This was not a species I ever expected to see here at the Foothills Road feeders and had not previously been recorded on the property. All for now. Stay safe. > > Bob > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/29/20 1:34 pm From: David Vander Pluym <scre...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]AZFO: New photos of Tropical Parula, new and old Eared Quetzal, Streak-backed Oriole and more!
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Field Ornithologists,
Derik Bowen, Jonathon Sleger, and Patricia A Isaacson contributed photos of a Tropical Parula, Patricia A. Isaacson also contributed additional photos of White-eared and Berylline Hummingbird, Cheryl Gross and Mary McSparen contributed photos of Streak-backed Oriole, Peg Abbott contributed additional photos of Eared Quetzal, Sidney Lissner and Ryan Seppala contributed photos of a new Eared Quetzal. Thanks Derik, Jonathon, Patricia, Cheryl, Mary, Peg, Sidney, and Ryan!
Thanks to all who use the online form below to submit photos. It makes our job a lot easier and ensures your photos will be posted more quickly.
Hi folks, This morning (28 June) I saw an adult male White-eared Hummingbird outside the front window. The bird briefly investigated a red plastic seed feeder and a hummingbird feeder but did not drink. I saw the bird at close range for one minute or less without binoculars. The broad white eye stripe was clearly evident and the gorget/breast flashed bright green occasionally as the sun hit it. After having a quick look at the two feeders the hummingbird flew off and I did not see it again. This was not a species I ever expected to see here at the Foothills Road feeders and had not previously been recorded on the property. All for now. Stay safe.
Date: 6/28/20 10:36 am From: Jody Williams <fisherwoods...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Ibis Flock
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A bit before 7 AM, a flock of 19 White-faced Ibis passed over Arthur Pack Regional Park in NW Tucson. When last seen, they were heading southwesterly toward the Santa Cruz River. Three Northern Shovelers continue. Lots of fledgelings of many species chasing adults around. Saw an adult female Vermillion Flycatcher sitting on a nest. Saw a nice male Costa’s Hummingbird west of the course. It was hawking from the same creosote as a Flame Skimmer dragonfly.
Date: 6/27/20 2:34 pm From: Clark, Daniel Glenn - (dgclark) <dgclark...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
Finally something sensible. Thanks, Caleb!
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This is about all I have to contribute to the discussion...
On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Betsy Checchia <betsy.checchia...> wrote:
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If you come from outside of AZ, please bring a mask. Tucson and Pima County require a mask when you enter any place of business. If you stop along I-10 on your way to San Simon for gas and a soda, you may be refused service unless you're wearing a mask
Betsy Checchia
Tucson, AZ
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...><mailto:<tgmiko...>> wrote:
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Ari
I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I won't be allowed to look for it.
Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio recordings).
Thomas Geza Miko
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909.241.3300
I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do.
Please, please keep these posts to sightings.
Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page.
Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise.
I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently.
Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain inconsiderate.
This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal.
"Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you.
However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up.
First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave.
I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year.
The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially when they’re there.
A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet."
Here are some excerpts:
“Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or cross the bridge.”
“ At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people were looking back in at me!”
“This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”
"I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, and didn’t apologize.
I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders."
> On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Betsy Checchia <betsy.checchia...> wrote: > > > External Email > > If you come from outside of AZ, please bring a mask. Tucson and Pima County require a mask when you enter any place of business. If you stop along I-10 on your way to San Simon for gas and a soda, you may be refused service unless you're wearing a mask > > Betsy Checchia > Tucson, AZ > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: >> External Email >> >> Ari >> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I won't be allowed to look for it. >> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio recordings). >> >> Thomas Geza Miko >> Claremont, LA County >> 909.241.3300 >> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >>> External Email >>> >>> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >>> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Ari >>> >>>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> External Email >>>> >>>> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >>>> >>>> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >>>> >>>> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain inconsiderate. >>>> >>>> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >>>> >>>> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you. >>>> >>>> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >>>> >>>> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >>>> >>>> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >>>> >>>> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially when they’re there. >>>> >>>> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet." >>>> >>>> Here are some excerpts: >>>> >>>> “Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or cross the bridge.” >>>> >>>> “ At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people were looking back in at me!” >>>> >>>> “This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.” >>>> >>>> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, and didn’t apologize. >>>> >>>> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >>>> >>>> Portal, Arizona. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. 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If you come from outside of AZ, please bring a mask. Tucson and Pima County require a mask when you enter any place of business. If you stop along I-10 on your way to San Simon for gas and a soda, you may be refused service unless you're wearing a mask
Betsy Checchia Tucson, AZ
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote:
> *External Email* > Ari > I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm > frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this afternoon that > multiple people entered sightings for the Eared Quetzal yesterday, Thursday > and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had known about that, I would have left > Los Angeles many hours ago. on the other hand, I don't want people behaving > in the way that Lori described because then when I finally show up looking > for the bird I won't be allowed to look for it. > Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I would > like to express my frustration over the fact that people are only putting > their observations into eBird and no insult intended, they are giving some > very poor quality descriptions that cause me to not jump into the car and > drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if they are actually describing an > Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions > made of photos are audio recordings). > > Thomas Geza Miko > Claremont, LA County > 909.241.3300 > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: > >> *External Email* >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on >> sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to >> read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts >> on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there >> trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one >> should do and not do. >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Ari >> >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> wrote: >> >> >> >> *External Email* >> >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this >> here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >> >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for >> me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but >> that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we >> ourselves were witness to, recently. >> >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder >> that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an >> older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I >> immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a >> driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. >> He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off >> to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the >> driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just >> plain inconsiderate. >> >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >> >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal >> and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a >> life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you. >> >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it >> up for the rest of us. Wake up. >> >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is >> now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave >> wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the >> leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and >> look for flowering Agave. >> >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the >> Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >> >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. >> Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the >> privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of >> common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should >> respect their privacy, especially when they’re there. >> >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the >> people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and >> then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call >> from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet." >> >> Here are some excerpts: >> >> “*Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the >> cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also >> private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or >> cross the bridge.”* >> >> “ *At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in >> the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people >> were looking back in at me!”* >> >> “*This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in >> a uniform – we are NOT happy.”* >> >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, >> people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, >> and didn’t apologize. >> >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people >> that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >> >> >> >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >> >> Portal, Arizona. >> >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/27/20 12:40 pm From: Robert Behrstock <rbehrstock...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Rufous-type Hummingbird, lower Ash Canyon, 26/27 June
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Dear Birdsters,
Among the seven species of hummers ganged up at our house feeders (several dozen) for the last couple days, we've had a young male/female Rufous-type (small, dense cluster of red feathers in center of throat). Statistically, probably safe to call it a Rufous. Late June is on the early side. Anyone else seeing these?
Best, RAB
Bob Behrstock Hereford, AZ "I don't like the country, the crickets make me nervous." Terry Malloy (Marlon Brando) On the Waterfront Please visit my website: http://www.naturewideimages.com/
Date: 6/27/20 12:16 pm From: Robert O'Brien <baro...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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That works too. Seems like they're quite a few species of corvids in Arizona. And Chihuahuan Raven really helps and we shouldn't forget Mexican Jay. California Scrub- jay really helps but it's still going to be an uphill battle to beat Texas. Bob O'Brien Portland Oregon
On Saturday, June 27, 2020, Scott Crabtree <the.crabtrees51...> wrote:
> *External Email* > I thought Kelly said 'corvid' capital of the world. Gotta get my eyes > checked... > > Scott > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:50 AM <pgoltz...> wrote: > >> External Email >> >> Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT >> experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot >> more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure >> you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even >> the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep >> dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. >> >> People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If >> you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in >> Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. >> >> Good birding, >> Pat Goltz >> Pima County >> >> On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL >> > >> > Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to >> > avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well >> > as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to >> > Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! >> > Best of luck. >> > 🙄 >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: >> > >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> >> >> Ari >> >> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm >> >> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this >> >> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared >> >> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had >> >> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on >> >> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori >> >> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I >> >> won't be allowed to look for it. >> >> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I >> >> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are >> >> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, >> >> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to >> >> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if >> >> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or >> >> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio >> >> recordings). >> >> >> >> Thomas Geza Miko >> >> Claremont, LA County >> >> 909.241.3300 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >> >> >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough >> >> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I >> >> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with >> >> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy >> >> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing >> >> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >> >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Ari >> >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> >> >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post >> >> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >> >> >> >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >> >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's >> >> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught >> >> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad >> >> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >> >> >> >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird >> >> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, >> >> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, >> >> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, >> >> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no >> >> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved >> >> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You >> >> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't >> >> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain >> >> inconsiderate. >> >> >> >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >> >> >> >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared >> >> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and >> >> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and >> >> courteous – so, thank you. >> >> >> >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have >> >> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >> >> >> >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline >> >> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail >> >> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there >> >> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike >> >> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >> >> >> >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on >> >> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >> >> >> >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the >> >> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, >> >> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal >> >> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to >> >> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially >> >> when they’re there. >> >> >> >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and >> >> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the >> >> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very >> >> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some >> >> peace & quiet." >> >> >> >> Here are some excerpts: >> >> >> >> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch >> >> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, >> >> which is also private property. No permission has been given for >> >> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ >> >> >> >> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking >> >> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling >> >> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ >> >> >> >> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will >> >> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ >> >> >> >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their >> >> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t >> >> move right away, and didn’t apologize. >> >> >> >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >> >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of >> >> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >> >> >> >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >> >> >> >> Portal, Arizona. >> >> >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: >> >> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. 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Date: 6/27/20 10:42 am From: <ewinter...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Re: Travel cautions during pandemic
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I have been on this list for over a quarter century. Issues of closures, access and related matters have been discussed innumerable times over the decades. Now, when issues related to restrictions are life and death, literally, discussion is being suppressed?
Never been true before. Perfect time to clamp down & move the goalposts. Wow.
E. > > Fellow birders, > > Time to stop posting in this off topic thread. > > Please feel free to continue exchanging emails off of aznmbirds. > . > Thanks, > > Mark Stevenson > Co-listowner, aznmbirds > Tucson, AZ, NM * <ewinter...>
Date: 6/27/20 10:21 am From: Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot THREAD CLOSED
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Fellow birders,
The original post was on topic (birding) and approved by me in advance.
The thread has departed from that birding topic so it's time to stop posting.
Please feel free to exchange emails off of the listserv.
Thanks, Mark Stevenson Co-listowner, aznmbirds Tucson, AZ
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 8:43 AM Scott Crabtree <the.crabtrees51...> wrote:
> *External Email* > I thought Kelly said 'corvid' capital of the world. Gotta get my eyes > checked... > > Scott > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:50 AM <pgoltz...> wrote: > >> External Email >> >> Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT >> experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot >> more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure >> you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even >> the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep >> dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. >> >> People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If >> you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in >> Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. >> >> Good birding, >> Pat Goltz >> Pima County >> >> On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL >> > >> > Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to >> > avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well >> > as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to >> > Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! >> > Best of luck. >> > 🙄 >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: >> > >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> >> >> Ari >> >> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm >> >> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this >> >> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared >> >> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had >> >> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on >> >> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori >> >> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I >> >> won't be allowed to look for it. >> >> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I >> >> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are >> >> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, >> >> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to >> >> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if >> >> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or >> >> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio >> >> recordings). >> >> >> >> Thomas Geza Miko >> >> Claremont, LA County >> >> 909.241.3300 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >> >> >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough >> >> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I >> >> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with >> >> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy >> >> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing >> >> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >> >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Ari >> >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> >> >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post >> >> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >> >> >> >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >> >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's >> >> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught >> >> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad >> >> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >> >> >> >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird >> >> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, >> >> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, >> >> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, >> >> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no >> >> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved >> >> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You >> >> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't >> >> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain >> >> inconsiderate. >> >> >> >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >> >> >> >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared >> >> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and >> >> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and >> >> courteous – so, thank you. >> >> >> >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have >> >> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >> >> >> >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline >> >> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail >> >> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there >> >> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike >> >> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >> >> >> >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on >> >> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >> >> >> >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the >> >> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, >> >> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal >> >> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to >> >> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially >> >> when they’re there. >> >> >> >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and >> >> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the >> >> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very >> >> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some >> >> peace & quiet." >> >> >> >> Here are some excerpts: >> >> >> >> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch >> >> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, >> >> which is also private property. No permission has been given for >> >> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ >> >> >> >> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking >> >> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling >> >> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ >> >> >> >> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will >> >> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ >> >> >> >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their >> >> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t >> >> move right away, and didn’t apologize. >> >> >> >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >> >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of >> >> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >> >> >> >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >> >> >> >> Portal, Arizona. >> >> >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: >> >> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. 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Date: 6/27/20 10:16 am From: Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] Fw: [EXT]Travel cautions during pandemic THREAD CLOSED
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Fellow birders,
Time to stop posting in this off topic thread.
Please feel free to continue exchanging emails off of aznmbirds. . Thanks,
Mark Stevenson Co-listowner, aznmbirds Tucson, AZ
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 9:59 AM MOLLY POLLOCK <mollymp...> wrote:
> > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* "<ewinter...>" <ewinter...> > *To:* "<pgoltz...>" <pgoltz...> > *Cc:* Kelly W. <kjunewright2014...>; AZ/NM Birds < > <aznmbirds...> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2020, 09:25:40 AM MST > *Subject:* [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Travel cautions during pandemic > > External Email > > Subject line changed from "Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot" > > I have gone back and forth about responding to this, quoted below. Because > I think it is misleading and this pandemic requires more care than a > shrug, I have decided to respond. In my personal case, we had a trip to > Georgia planned for around the 1st of May. Without the pandemic, we'd be > at the Oregon coast now. The decision to cancel a weekend in Denver for a > concert later in the summer was made for us when the concert was canceled. > As the writer below says, we all make our own decisions. But there are a > few things that it would be sensible to consider before you travel. (For > birds, or any other purpose such as a funeral.) > > At present, for example, if you fly into Albuquerque, from anywhere, a 14 > day quarantine is required. If you travel to Arizona, in some places you > will be required to quarantine when you return home. If you travel to > Hawaii, you must stay in your hotel room for 14 days, strictly. If they > catch you out when you are supposed to be quarantined, you are escorted > directly to the airport to fly out. Each person makes their own decisions > whether or not to be a scofflaw regarding public health (or trespassing, > which becomes a bigger issue in the midst of pandemic, too.) It's a good > idea to look into travel restrictions. IMO. > > There are public policies & restrictions, and there are also numbers to > consider. Because this is an Arizona bird, I will say a few things about > numbers for Arizona. I am partial to Johns Hopkins ArcGIS portals; it's a > big effort, actively maintained. There's a huge amount of data flying > around, and new information with each passing hour, so there's always some > fuzziness around the edges. We had a family member working at the hospital > in Kirkwood near Seattle where COVID-19 first blew up. And a cousin > married to an MD in Phoenix, with elderly uncle in nursing home there. I, > too, have been watching the numbers closely. Here's a few things about > Arizona: > > New cases are zooming up. One explanation for that phenomenon is that > there's more testing. However, when it comes to Arizona, that is not an > adequate explanation. Arizona has, by far, the highest rate of positive > test results of all 50 states plus DC at 22.7%. 22.7% is the 7-day running > average, which I choose because it is current, but smoothed enough to > avoid getting off track due to daily anomalies. Better for reading trends > than daily numbers, which tend to have more noise. Arizona does not have > the lowest testing rate in the nation, but it is well below the national > median at 6,592 per 100,000. This indicates that there are a lot of cases > in Arizona as yet undetected. You could say that it's running wild in > Arizona worse than any of the other 50 states or DC. Other top states for > rates of positive results, testing rates: > > Arizona - 22.7% with 6,592 tests per 100k population > Florida - 14.1%, 8236 > Alabama - 13.3%, 9,136 > Texas - 12.6%, 5,854 > Utah - 12.8%, 9,906 > Nevada - 11.3%, 8,398 > Alabama - 11.0%, 7,716 > Georgia - 10.9%, 7,261 > Idaho - 8.7%, 4609 > Arkansas - 8.1%, 9,191 > Oklahoma - 7.3%, 7,854 > Kansas - 7.3%, 5,762 > Louisiana - 7.2% 14,585 > Tennessee - 6.8%, 10,866 > California - 5.7%, 9,545 > > This link visualizes testing & results over time in Arizona. You can link > to all the other states with the dropdown at the top left of the map: > > https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/arizona > > This next link has a variety of information, globally. If you click on the > TestingRate tab under the map, and then click on the blue dot over the > relevant state, you will get a pop-up with # of tests & testing rate. > > > https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 > > Personally, I am very careful about this disease. It's a lousy way to die. > And not everyone who comes through it comes out whole. Permanent lung > damage, for example, including among the young & healthy w/no known > underlying conditions. Some have even required lung transplants to > survive. Prince Charles, 3 months after testing positive, and considered > to have had a "mild" case, hasn't fully got his senses of taste & smell > back yet. Says he feels like he's not over the sickness as of last week, > albeit no longer contagious. > > Regarding the post quoted below which prompted this reply. I agree with > one thing she said: Don't believe everything you read. That would include > her email (or what I have to say, either.) Go for real sources with > experience in monitoring public health. Check official pandemic > restrictions & requirements. Please be careful, people. This thing is a > bear. Not to be taken lightly. > > In conclusion, regarding Arizona: With a testing rate well below the > national median (the average is lower) and a positive test rate head and > shoulders above all the other states at 22.7%, it's simply incorrect to > say there's no upsurge in Arizona. I spent awhile looking for the Phase I > reopening guidance from the CDC, but not finding it. IIRC, they set a > target of 5% or below positive testing rate as a benchmark for moving > forward on opening things up. Arizona has, shall we say, room for > improvement. > > Please be cautious about travel. You might even want to consider paying > attention to public health advisories for travel. (And avoid trespassing.) > For some birders, nothing is more important than a lifer, and an occasion > to display particularly selfish behavior. But be careful anyhow, > especially in Arizona, where the highest # of emergency room visits and of > positive tests was yesterday, with the nation's highest rate of positivity > to go with. (The spike in deaths typically follows 2-4 weeks later, and we > don't yet know if Arizona's positive cases have peaked yet.) The latest > report I found today, dated yesterday: > > "As of Thursday, 86%'of current inpatient beds and 88% of ICU beds were in > use for COVID-19 and other patients. Ducey said hospitals could hit surge > capacity 'very soon,' as Arizona deals with one of the worst spikes of > COVID-19 in the country." > > > https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2020/06/26/covid-19-continues-arizona-spike-more-than-3-400-new-cases-reported-june-26/3263472001/ > > Please be careful! Not just for yourself, but for everyone else you come > in contact with. > > Elizabeth Winter * Taos, NM * <ewinter...> > > > > > Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT > > experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot > > more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure > > you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even > > the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep > > dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. > > > > People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If > > you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in > > Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. > > > > Good birding, > > Pat Goltz > > Pima County > > > > On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: > >> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >> > >> Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to > >> avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well > >> as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to > >> Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! > >> Best of luck. > >> 🙄 > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: > >> > >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >>> > >>> Ari > >>> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm > >>> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this > >>> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared > >>> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had > >>> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on > >>> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori > >>> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I > >>> won't be allowed to look for it. > >>> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I > >>> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are > >>> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, > >>> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to > >>> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if > >>> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or > >>> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio > >>> recordings). > >>> > >>> Thomas Geza Miko > >>> Claremont, LA County > >>> 909.241.3300 > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: > >>> > >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >>> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough > >>> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I > >>> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with > >>> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy > >>> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing > >>> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. > >>> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. > >>> > >>> Thank you. > >>> > >>> Ari > >>> > >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >>> > >>> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post > >>> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. > >>> > >>> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation > >>> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's > >>> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught > >>> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad > >>> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. > >>> > >>> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird > >>> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, > >>> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, > >>> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, > >>> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no > >>> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved > >>> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You > >>> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't > >>> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain > >>> inconsiderate. > >>> > >>> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. > >>> > >>> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared > >>> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and > >>> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and > >>> courteous – so, thank you. > >>> > >>> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have > >>> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. > >>> > >>> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline > >>> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail > >>> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there > >>> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike > >>> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. > >>> > >>> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on > >>> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. > >>> > >>> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the > >>> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, > >>> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal > >>> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to > >>> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially > >>> when they’re there. > >>> > >>> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and > >>> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the > >>> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very > >>> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some > >>> peace & quiet." > >>> > >>> Here are some excerpts: > >>> > >>> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch > >>> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, > >>> which is also private property. No permission has been given for > >>> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ > >>> > >>> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking > >>> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling > >>> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ > >>> > >>> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will > >>> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ > >>> > >>> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their > >>> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t > >>> move right away, and didn’t apologize. > >>> > >>> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few > >>> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of > >>> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." > >>> > >>> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan > >>> > >>> Portal, Arizona. > >>> > >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: > >>> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. 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Date: 6/27/20 9:25 am From: <ewinter...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Travel cautions during pandemic
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Subject line changed from "Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot"
I have gone back and forth about responding to this, quoted below. Because I think it is misleading and this pandemic requires more care than a shrug, I have decided to respond. In my personal case, we had a trip to Georgia planned for around the 1st of May. Without the pandemic, we'd be at the Oregon coast now. The decision to cancel a weekend in Denver for a concert later in the summer was made for us when the concert was canceled. As the writer below says, we all make our own decisions. But there are a few things that it would be sensible to consider before you travel. (For birds, or any other purpose such as a funeral.)
At present, for example, if you fly into Albuquerque, from anywhere, a 14 day quarantine is required. If you travel to Arizona, in some places you will be required to quarantine when you return home. If you travel to Hawaii, you must stay in your hotel room for 14 days, strictly. If they catch you out when you are supposed to be quarantined, you are escorted directly to the airport to fly out. Each person makes their own decisions whether or not to be a scofflaw regarding public health (or trespassing, which becomes a bigger issue in the midst of pandemic, too.) It's a good idea to look into travel restrictions. IMO.
There are public policies & restrictions, and there are also numbers to consider. Because this is an Arizona bird, I will say a few things about numbers for Arizona. I am partial to Johns Hopkins ArcGIS portals; it's a big effort, actively maintained. There's a huge amount of data flying around, and new information with each passing hour, so there's always some fuzziness around the edges. We had a family member working at the hospital in Kirkwood near Seattle where COVID-19 first blew up. And a cousin married to an MD in Phoenix, with elderly uncle in nursing home there. I, too, have been watching the numbers closely. Here's a few things about Arizona:
New cases are zooming up. One explanation for that phenomenon is that there's more testing. However, when it comes to Arizona, that is not an adequate explanation. Arizona has, by far, the highest rate of positive test results of all 50 states plus DC at 22.7%. 22.7% is the 7-day running average, which I choose because it is current, but smoothed enough to avoid getting off track due to daily anomalies. Better for reading trends than daily numbers, which tend to have more noise. Arizona does not have the lowest testing rate in the nation, but it is well below the national median at 6,592 per 100,000. This indicates that there are a lot of cases in Arizona as yet undetected. You could say that it's running wild in Arizona worse than any of the other 50 states or DC. Other top states for rates of positive results, testing rates:
This next link has a variety of information, globally. If you click on the TestingRate tab under the map, and then click on the blue dot over the relevant state, you will get a pop-up with # of tests & testing rate.
Personally, I am very careful about this disease. It's a lousy way to die. And not everyone who comes through it comes out whole. Permanent lung damage, for example, including among the young & healthy w/no known underlying conditions. Some have even required lung transplants to survive. Prince Charles, 3 months after testing positive, and considered to have had a "mild" case, hasn't fully got his senses of taste & smell back yet. Says he feels like he's not over the sickness as of last week, albeit no longer contagious.
Regarding the post quoted below which prompted this reply. I agree with one thing she said: Don't believe everything you read. That would include her email (or what I have to say, either.) Go for real sources with experience in monitoring public health. Check official pandemic restrictions & requirements. Please be careful, people. This thing is a bear. Not to be taken lightly.
In conclusion, regarding Arizona: With a testing rate well below the national median (the average is lower) and a positive test rate head and shoulders above all the other states at 22.7%, it's simply incorrect to say there's no upsurge in Arizona. I spent awhile looking for the Phase I reopening guidance from the CDC, but not finding it. IIRC, they set a target of 5% or below positive testing rate as a benchmark for moving forward on opening things up. Arizona has, shall we say, room for improvement.
Please be cautious about travel. You might even want to consider paying attention to public health advisories for travel. (And avoid trespassing.) For some birders, nothing is more important than a lifer, and an occasion to display particularly selfish behavior. But be careful anyhow, especially in Arizona, where the highest # of emergency room visits and of positive tests was yesterday, with the nation's highest rate of positivity to go with. (The spike in deaths typically follows 2-4 weeks later, and we don't yet know if Arizona's positive cases have peaked yet.) The latest report I found today, dated yesterday:
"As of Thursday, 86%'of current inpatient beds and 88% of ICU beds were in use for COVID-19 and other patients. Ducey said hospitals could hit surge capacity 'very soon,' as Arizona deals with one of the worst spikes of COVID-19 in the country."
Please be careful! Not just for yourself, but for everyone else you come in contact with.
Elizabeth Winter * Taos, NM * <ewinter...> > > Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT > experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot > more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure > you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even > the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep > dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. > > People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If > you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in > Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. > > Good birding, > Pat Goltz > Pima County > > On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to >> avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well >> as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to >> Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! >> Best of luck. >> 🙄 >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: >> >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> >>> Ari >>> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm >>> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this >>> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared >>> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had >>> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on >>> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori >>> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I >>> won't be allowed to look for it. >>> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I >>> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are >>> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, >>> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to >>> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if >>> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or >>> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio >>> recordings). >>> >>> Thomas Geza Miko >>> Claremont, LA County >>> 909.241.3300 >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >>> >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough >>> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I >>> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with >>> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy >>> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing >>> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >>> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Ari >>> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> >>> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post >>> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >>> >>> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >>> >>> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >>> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's >>> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught >>> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad >>> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >>> >>> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird >>> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, >>> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, >>> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, >>> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no >>> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved >>> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You >>> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't >>> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain >>> inconsiderate. >>> >>> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >>> >>> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared >>> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and >>> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and >>> courteous – so, thank you. >>> >>> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have >>> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >>> >>> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline >>> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail >>> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there >>> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike >>> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >>> >>> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on >>> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >>> >>> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the >>> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, >>> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal >>> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to >>> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially >>> when they’re there. >>> >>> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and >>> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the >>> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very >>> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some >>> peace & quiet." >>> >>> Here are some excerpts: >>> >>> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch >>> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, >>> which is also private property. No permission has been given for >>> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ >>> >>> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking >>> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling >>> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ >>> >>> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will >>> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ >>> >>> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their >>> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t >>> move right away, and didn’t apologize. >>> >>> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >>> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of >>> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >>> >>> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >>> >>> Portal, Arizona. >>> >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: >>> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/27/20 8:43 am From: Scott Crabtree <the.crabtrees51...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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I thought Kelly said 'corvid' capital of the world. Gotta get my eyes checked...
Scott
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:50 AM <pgoltz...> wrote:
> External Email > > Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT > experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot > more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure > you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even > the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep > dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. > > People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If > you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in > Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. > > Good birding, > Pat Goltz > Pima County > > On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to > > avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well > > as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to > > Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! > > Best of luck. > > 🙄 > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: > > > >> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >> > >> Ari > >> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm > >> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this > >> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared > >> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had > >> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on > >> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori > >> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I > >> won't be allowed to look for it. > >> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I > >> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are > >> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, > >> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to > >> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if > >> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or > >> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio > >> recordings). > >> > >> Thomas Geza Miko > >> Claremont, LA County > >> 909.241.3300 > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: > >> > >> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough > >> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I > >> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with > >> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy > >> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing > >> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. > >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Ari > >> > >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> EXTERNAL EMAIL > >> > >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post > >> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. > >> > >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. > >> > >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation > >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's > >> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught > >> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad > >> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. > >> > >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird > >> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, > >> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, > >> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, > >> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no > >> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved > >> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You > >> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't > >> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain > >> inconsiderate. > >> > >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. > >> > >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared > >> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and > >> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and > >> courteous – so, thank you. > >> > >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have > >> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. > >> > >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline > >> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail > >> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there > >> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike > >> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. > >> > >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on > >> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. > >> > >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the > >> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, > >> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal > >> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to > >> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially > >> when they’re there. > >> > >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and > >> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the > >> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very > >> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some > >> peace & quiet." > >> > >> Here are some excerpts: > >> > >> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch > >> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, > >> which is also private property. No permission has been given for > >> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ > >> > >> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking > >> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling > >> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ > >> > >> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will > >> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ > >> > >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their > >> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t > >> move right away, and didn’t apologize. > >> > >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few > >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of > >> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." > >> > >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan > >> > >> Portal, Arizona. > >> > >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: > >> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. 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Date: 6/27/20 8:15 am From: Marcia OBara <ntbirder...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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Rather than risk spreading misinformation, perhaps this email thread should end.
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> On Jun 27, 2020, at 12:50 AM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > External Email > > Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising. > > People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds. > > Good birding, > Pat Goltz > Pima County > >> On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to >> avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well >> as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to >> Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! >> Best of luck. >> 🙄 >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> Ari >>> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm >>> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this >>> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared >>> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had >>> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on >>> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori >>> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I >>> won't be allowed to look for it. >>> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I >>> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are >>> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, >>> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to >>> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if >>> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or >>> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio >>> recordings). >>> Thomas Geza Miko >>> Claremont, LA County >>> 909.241.3300 >>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough >>> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I >>> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with >>> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy >>> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing >>> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >>> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >>> Thank you. >>> Ari >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> >>> wrote: >>> >>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post >>> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >>> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >>> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >>> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's >>> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught >>> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad >>> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >>> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird >>> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, >>> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, >>> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, >>> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no >>> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved >>> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You >>> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't >>> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain >>> inconsiderate. >>> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >>> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared >>> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and >>> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and >>> courteous – so, thank you. >>> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have >>> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >>> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline >>> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail >>> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there >>> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike >>> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >>> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on >>> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >>> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the >>> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, >>> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal >>> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to >>> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially >>> when they’re there. >>> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and >>> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the >>> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very >>> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some >>> peace & quiet." >>> Here are some excerpts: >>> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch >>> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, >>> which is also private property. No permission has been given for >>> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ >>> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking >>> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling >>> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ >>> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will >>> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ >>> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their >>> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t >>> move right away, and didn’t apologize. >>> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >>> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of >>> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >>> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >>> Portal, Arizona. >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: >>> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. 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Date: 6/27/20 12:51 am From: <pgoltz...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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Your choice. However, don't believe everything you read. Arizona is NOT experiencing a sudden upsurge of the virus. There has simply been a lot more testing. I have been watching the daily figures for weeks. I assure you, there is no upsurge either in cases or deaths. In addition, even the United States is nowhere close to the epicenter. Deaths keep dropping, while much of the rest of the world is steady or rising.
People are welcome to come to Arizona to look for any blasted bird. If you truly love birds, please know it is safe to be outside, even in Arizona. It all depends on how passionate you are about birds.
Good birding, Pat Goltz Pima County
On 2020-06-26 23:10, Kelly W. wrote: > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to > avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well > as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to > Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! > Best of luck. > 🙄 > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote: > >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> Ari >> I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm >> frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this >> afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared >> Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had >> known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on >> the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori >> described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I >> won't be allowed to look for it. >> Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I >> would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are >> only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, >> they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to >> not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if >> they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or >> a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio >> recordings). >> >> Thomas Geza Miko >> Claremont, LA County >> 909.241.3300 >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough >> on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I >> get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with >> individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy >> nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing >> about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Ari >> >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post >> this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >> >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >> >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's >> hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught >> common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad >> behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. >> >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird >> feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, >> only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, >> blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, >> told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no >> idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved >> it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You >> need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't >> understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain >> inconsiderate. >> >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >> >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared >> Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and >> great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and >> courteous – so, thank you. >> >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have >> screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. >> >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline >> Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail >> – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there >> to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike >> up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. >> >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on >> the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >> >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the >> road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, >> please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal >> point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to >> lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially >> when they’re there. >> >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and >> the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the >> Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very >> angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some >> peace & quiet." >> >> Here are some excerpts: >> >> “_Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch >> of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, >> which is also private property. No permission has been given for >> people to sit on or cross the bridge.”_ >> >> “ _At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking >> around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling >> about, people were looking back in at me!”_ >> >> “_This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will >> be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.”_ >> >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their >> cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t >> move right away, and didn’t apologize. >> >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of >> people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >> >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >> >> Portal, Arizona. >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.Home Page: >> https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/26/20 11:10 pm From: Kelly W. <kjunewright2014...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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Guess I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this list too in order to avoid hearing about this deplorable birder behavior on site, as well as to avoid hearing about people jumping in their cars and driving to Arizona - the current Covid capital of the World - to see a damn bird! Best of luck. 🙄
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:39 PM T.G. Miko <tgmiko...> wrote:
> *External Email* > Ari > I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm > frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this afternoon that > multiple people entered sightings for the Eared Quetzal yesterday, Thursday > and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had known about that, I would have left > Los Angeles many hours ago. on the other hand, I don't want people behaving > in the way that Lori described because then when I finally show up looking > for the bird I won't be allowed to look for it. > Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I would > like to express my frustration over the fact that people are only putting > their observations into eBird and no insult intended, they are giving some > very poor quality descriptions that cause me to not jump into the car and > drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if they are actually describing an > Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions > made of photos are audio recordings). > > Thomas Geza Miko > Claremont, LA County > 909.241.3300 > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote: > >> *External Email* >> I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on >> sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to >> read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts >> on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there >> trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one >> should do and not do. >> Please, please keep these posts to sightings. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Ari >> >> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> wrote: >> >> >> >> *External Email* >> >> Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this >> here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. >> >> I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation >> currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for >> me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but >> that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we >> ourselves were witness to, recently. >> >> Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder >> that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an >> older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I >> immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a >> driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. >> He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off >> to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the >> driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just >> plain inconsiderate. >> >> This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. >> >> "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal >> and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a >> life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you. >> >> However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it >> up for the rest of us. Wake up. >> >> First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is >> now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave >> wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the >> leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and >> look for flowering Agave. >> >> I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the >> Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. >> >> The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. >> Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the >> privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of >> common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should >> respect their privacy, especially when they’re there. >> >> A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the >> people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and >> then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call >> from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet." >> >> Here are some excerpts: >> >> “*Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the >> cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also >> private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or >> cross the bridge.”* >> >> “ *At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in >> the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people >> were looking back in at me!”* >> >> “*This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in >> a uniform – we are NOT happy.”* >> >> "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, >> people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, >> and didn’t apologize. >> >> I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few >> birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people >> that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." >> >> >> >> Sincerely, Elaine Moisan >> >> Portal, Arizona. >> >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/26/20 10:33 pm From: Andrew Core <tucsonrba...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]RBA Tucson, AZ - 26 June 2020
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Hello Birders,
This update of Tucson Audubon Society's Rare Bird Alert for Southeast Arizona was made on June 26, 2020; the next update will be made on July 3. Phone your reports to 520-629-0510 X 3, or email to rarebirdalert AT tucsonaudubon.org.
SEVERAL IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS follow the sightings, including information on temporary closures and rules for access to other important birding areas. Abbreviation "m.ob." = multiple observers. An asterisk (*) preceding a species name in the list indicates that it merits careful, full documentation. A pound sign (#) indicates that brief corroborating details are warranted. Documentation and photos of review species may be submitted at http://www.azfo.org/gallery/1main/whatIsABC.html.
For more information about Tucson Audubon field trips, lectures and educational opportunities, please see www.tucsonaudubon.org.
SPECIES MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT: #Buff-collared Nightjar #White-eared Hummingbird #Berylline Hummingbird #Lucifer Hummingbird *EARED QUETZAL *ROSE-THROATED BECARD #Black-capped Gnatcatcher *CRESCENT-CHESTED WARBLER *TROPICAL PARULA #Hooded Warbler #Rufous-capped Warbler
ACCESS NOTE: Many areas remain closed due to COVID19, such as the Paton Center for Hummingbirds in Patagonia and Nature Conservancy properties (i.e., Ramsey Canyon, Patagonia-Sonoita Creek). The Catalina Highway up Mt. Lemmon is closed at the base due to the Bighorn Fire, and Ft Huachuca is only issuing new passes to local residents. If in doubt, call ahead.
PORTAL & the CHIRICAHUAS (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/XfXfX) After a week absence the *EARED QUETZAL was reported again briefly along FR42A between the Southwest Research Station (SWRS) and John Hands picnic area on 6/25 (m.ob.). There was another report (heard-only) from about 5 miles away in Pinery Canyon on 6/20 (it was photographed there on 6/15). The specific area it was regularly seen along FR42A is about 0.7 miles from the SWRS; there are 8 cabins here, fenced off from the road. The bird has been inside this fenced off area, seen from the road. DO NOT cross the fence into the cabin area; these are private leases and not publicly accessible. It has been heard as far upstream as the John Hands picnic area. A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued this week (m.ob.) near the cabins and was seen throughout the week along the road. #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRDS were reported in three different locations this week – two along FR42A near the cabin (m.ob.), one photographed in the South Fork of Cave Creek Canyon (m.ob.), and two males (one photographed on 6/20, BB Oros) along FR42 just before Paradise Road (GPS: 31.9054, -109.2425). *CRESCENT-CHESTED WARBLERS continued in Morse Canyon this week, but just barely - there was a heard-only report on 6/20 (Jon Curd). Map: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L5495120.
SIERRA VISTA & the HUACHUCAS On Ft. Huachuca, a *TROPICAL PARULA continued in Huachuca Canyon through 6/23 (m.ob.) at the 1.7-mile parking area. A #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER was photographed in Scheelite Canyon on 6/23 (Peter Siminski). A current and valid visitor pass is required to visit Ft Huachuca; if you live within 60 miles of the base you can get a new pass or renew an existing pass. In Miller Canyon, #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) about 100 yards before Split Rock (about a mile from the parking area). A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued through 6/26 (m.ob.). At least one of the #HOODED WARBLERS continued through 6/26 (m.ob.). #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued at Ash Canyon Bird Sanctuary (m.ob.). and in several yards on the east flank of the Huachucas this week (m.ob.). In Carr Canyon, a #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD was reported along the Comfort Spring Trail on 6/26 (Bob & Bettina Arrigoni).
TUBAC area (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/yDqi0) Multiple *ROSE-THROATED BECARDS continued about 0.7 miles north of the Tubac bridge this week (m.ob.). In Montosa Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/8L8tv) #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued this week (m.ob.) near the culvert, upstream of the concrete stream crossing.
NOGALES area #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJARS continued this week (m.ob.) at the south end of California Gulch at the confluence with Warsaw Canyon. Annotated map: http://goo.gl/wSr0mi.
BUENOS AIRES NWR #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJAR continued in the Brown Canyon section of Buenos Aires NWR (https://ebird.org/hotspot/L7699167) through 6/23 (Jeff Sexton) on the publicly accessible (east) side of the gate. There are three cattle guards on Brown Canyon Rd (#102) leading up to the security gate, which is 3.5 miles from Hwy 286. In past years the best location for hearing a nightjar is between the third cattle guard and the gate but they have been heard at all three cattle guards. Photo opportunities may be limited as the better habitat is not adjacent to public access along Rd 102 (see map here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QeU5ec7Kr0oknsozu-yHfw2RzQKnBVsL/view?usp=sharing ). Another area is along BANWR Rd 148 (high clearance recommended) – the turnoff is just before the first cattle guard. DO NOT ACCESS BY FOOT OR BY VEHICLE- the private land holding north of Rd 102 as shown on the map (between cattle guards #1 and #2). DO NOT ENTER the roads leading to the coral and watering facility. Faded signs indicating “Stay Out” are posted but could be easily missed. Access to State Trust Land must be done with proper state permits. For details regarding access to the restricted area (west of the gate) contact the refuge headquarters (520.823.4251 ext 101).
GREEN VALLEY & the SANTA RITAS In Florida Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/AAzD6), #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) in the West Fork near the dam. Directions: About 400 yards from parking lot is a metal gate, and just past the gate the canyon forks. The main trail follows the East Fork, but most sightings have been in the West Fork to the right. About 125 yards up the rough trail in the West Fork is a large water tank and a low dam. The oak grove is about 1/3 mile past the dam. Note: The trail for the West Fork can be difficult to find, and is steep and rough in places. If you see the sign with distances to Florida Saddle, Madera Canyon, etc you've missed the turn. It is not necessary, recommended or permissible to enter the research station to see these birds. A #HOODED WARBLER was reported on 6/23 (Eric Kallen). #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued in Florida Canyon this week (m.ob.); they've been seen near the Florida Canyon parking area and a short distance up the trail, and at the old corral at FR488 & 62A. In Madera Canyon (map: http://goo.gl/dXBYP), a #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD continued at the Santa Rita Lodge this week through 6/15 (m.ob.). In Box Canyon (map: http://bit.ly/BoxCanyonAZ), a #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRD continued this week (m.ob.).
The Pima County Regional Wastewater Reclamation Department security procedures are subject to change any time. Please see the "bird watching" link on this page for important information regarding access: http://webcms.pima.gov/government/wastewaterreclamation/
RAMSEY CANYON - Ramsey Canyon Preserve is closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
ASH CANYON B&B: open dawn to dusk EXCEPT Thursday, when open noon to dusk. Parking is limited; please carpool whenever possible. No need to call ahead.
FORT HUACHUCA - access requirements are posted on its official webpage at https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/visitor-information. The Visitor Control Center is located at the Van Deman Gate on Hwy 90. The fort is an active military installation and will suspend your driving privileges on Post for 30 days on your first offense for talking or using a cell phone while driving. You MUST use a hands free device. Current entry requirements (subject to change without notice): US citizens must pass a background check and should be prepared to show photo ID for everyone in the vehicle at the entrance, and possibly your vehicle registration and insurance as well. Foreign nationals must be accompanied by an approved military escort; contact the base (520.533.7111), or possibly the Sierra Vista Visitor's Bureau (520.417.6960) well in advance. ACCESS NOTE: apparently some states driver's licenses do not meet federal requirements for base entry (KY, ME, MT, PA, SC, MN, MO, and WA); see https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs for details.
SANTA CRUZ FLATS: Management at the Evergreen Turf Sod Farm has asked birders not to drive into the property (i.e., the 2750 road); birding from perimeter roads (i.e., Tweedy or Pretzer) is still fine.
AVRA VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. Gates open 7AM and close PROMPTLY at 2PM (do not linger, you will be locked inside).
GREEN VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. When open (usually weekends), use the call box at the gate, sign in and out at the office, and stay away from buildings and construction equipment.
ROGER ROAD WRF, CORONA DE TUCSON WRF, and NOGALES STP: Closed.
Ari I respectfully disagree and agree with you at the same time. I'm frustrated because I just saw some eBird notifications this afternoon that multiple people entered sightings for the Eared Quetzal yesterday, Thursday and today Friday 6/26/2020. If I had known about that, I would have left Los Angeles many hours ago. on the other hand, I don't want people behaving in the way that Lori described because then when I finally show up looking for the bird I won't be allowed to look for it. Getting back to the Quetzal sightings from yesterday and today, I would like to express my frustration over the fact that people are only putting their observations into eBird and no insult intended, they are giving some very poor quality descriptions that cause me to not jump into the car and drive to Arizona because I'm not sure if they are actually describing an Eared Quetzal, an Elegant Trogon, or a Three-wattled Bellbird (no mentions made of photos are audio recordings).
Thomas Geza Miko Claremont, LA County 909.241.3300
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Ari Bose <ari_bose...> wrote:
> *External Email* > I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on > sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to > read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts > on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there > trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one > should do and not do. > Please, please keep these posts to sightings. > > Thank you. > > Ari > > On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> wrote: > > > > *External Email* > > Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this > here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. > > > > Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. > > I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation > currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for > me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but > that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we > ourselves were witness to, recently. > > Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder that > had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an > older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I > immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a > driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. > He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off > to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the > driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just > plain inconsiderate. > > This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. > > "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal > and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a > life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you. > > However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it > up for the rest of us. Wake up. > > First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is now > at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave > wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the > leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and > look for flowering Agave. > > I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the > Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. > > The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. > Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the > privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of > common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should > respect their privacy, especially when they’re there. > > A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the > people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and > then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call > from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet." > > Here are some excerpts: > > “*Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the > cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also > private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or > cross the bridge.”* > > “ *At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in > the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people > were looking back in at me!”* > > “*This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in a > uniform – we are NOT happy.”* > > "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, > people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, > and didn’t apologize. > > I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few > birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people > that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." > > > > Sincerely, Elaine Moisan > > Portal, Arizona. > > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/26/20 9:11 pm From: Ari Bose <ari_bose...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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I’m amazed at all the opinions being shared here! And not enough on sightings. This is a sighting list. I just want a forum where I get to read about sightings. Don’t want my inbox filled with individual thoughts on etiquette. I for one, just want to enjoy nature and not be out there trying to get a life list or hearing about everyone’s opinion on what one should do and not do. Please, please keep these posts to sightings.
Thank you.
Ari
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page. > > Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise. > I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently. > Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain inconsiderate. > This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal. > "Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous – so, thank you. > However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up. > First: I’d say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail – right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave. > I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year. > The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. Unless there’s a sign inviting you in on someone’s gate, please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially when they’re there. > A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet." > Here are some excerpts: > “Our son came up … and people were sitting on the front porch of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or cross the bridge.” > “ At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people were looking back in at me!” > “This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in a uniform – we are NOT happy.” > "I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn’t move right away, and didn’t apologize. > I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders." > > Sincerely, Elaine Moisan > Portal, Arizona. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/26/20 8:40 pm From: Lori Conrad <lconrad6853...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Bad Behavior at Quetzal spot
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Especially seeing that it might now be back, I was asked to post this here; it's been posted already on the AZ Birding Facebook page.
Unfortunately, we have a major problem here in paradise.
I am going to copy a letter here, about the unfortunate situation currently ongoing in the Portal area, mainly at the cabins. It's hard for me to conceive that grown-a** people have to be taught common courtesy, but that's become apparent after certain bad behaviors, one of which we ourselves were witness to, recently.
Our experience of this behavior: We arrived at the hummingbird feeder that had been put up near one of the cabins a few days ago, only to find an older man parked across the driveway to the cabins, blocking any entry. I immediately asked him to please move his car, told him that he was in a driveway, & he looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. He grudgingly got in the car & moved it further into the driveway but off to the side. I said "No! You need to get your car completely out of the driveway." I don't understand why people would do stuff like this. Just plain inconsiderate.
This is Elaine's letter. She is a local birder here in Portal.
"Many kind and considerate people came out to look for the Eared Quetzal and the two hummingbirds. People got wonderful photos and great looks at a life bird! So many people were being safe and courteous - so, thank you.
However, some selfish, thoughtless birders/photographers have screwed it up for the rest of us. Wake up.
First: I'd say the best place to look for the Berylline Hummingbird is now at the parking lot for the Snowshed/Basin trail - right by Crystal Cave wash. I put a hummingbird feeder up there to draw people away from the leased Forest Service cabins. Or: hike up the trail to Crystal Cave and look for flowering Agave.
I think people might try to look for the White-eared Hummingbird on the Ash Spring loop where they nested last year.
The Quetzal (if it comes back) should be heard or seen from the road. Unless there's a sign inviting you in on someone's gate, please respect the privacy of the cabin owners. This is not a legal point, but a matter of common courtesy. The owners pay a lot to lease their cabins, and we should respect their privacy, especially when they're there.
A feeder was mistakenly hung up in the driveway of one cabin, and the people that stay there were tolerating birders looking for the Quetzal and then the hummingbirds - until today. I received a very angry phone call from these neighbors - who come out here for some peace & quiet."
Here are some excerpts:
"Our son came up . and people were sitting on the front porch of the cabin on our furniture. People were sitting on the bridge, which is also private property. No permission has been given for people to sit on or cross the bridge."
" At 5 AM, the dogs were growling, and people were sneaking around in the bushes. When I went to see what the dogs were growling about, people were looking back in at me!"
"This is BEYOND inconsiderate. The next person they talk to will be in a uniform - we are NOT happy."
"I heard last week that when these folks drove up to stay in their cabin, people sitting on the bridge in their lawn chairs wouldn't move right away, and didn't apologize.
I am angry and embarrassed about the actions of a very few birders/photographers. This is awful behavior towards a community of people that tries hard to serve, & generally welcomes birders."
Date: 6/26/20 11:17 am From: Eric Hough <thebirdwhisperer22...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Re: CAZ: Hassayampa R. Preserve STREAK-BACKED ORIOLE
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6/26/20 A pair of STREAK-BACKED ORIOLES has been confirmed at their nest along Mesquite Meander trail at the Hassayampa River Preserve near Wickenburg (Maricopa Co.) and continue being seen this morning. Please see the information in the original post below about the park hours. The best time period to see them when they are most active is about 7:00-9:30am, before it starts getting hot out. There are also nesting TROPICAL KINGBIRDS, Hooded and Bullock’s Orioles, and Gila Woodpeckers, among others, right by the oriole nest. A female BROAD-BILLED HUMMINGBIRD continues in the front garden at the Visitor Center.
Good birding,
Eric Hough Interpretive Ranger Hassayampa River Preserve
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> On Jun 24, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Eric Hough <thebirdwhisperer22...> wrote: > > Cheryl Gross photographed a female STREAK-BACKED ORIOLE building a nest along Mesquite Meander trail at the Hassayampa River Preserve near Wickenburg (Maricopa Co.). It appears the most recent sighting was 6/19/20. Noticing the similar shaped old nest from last year in the same tree, it appears now this is the 2nd year she has tried nesting here (Troy Corman confirmed nest ID). Last year it was mistakenly assumed to be Bullock’s nest. It is unknown if she has paired with another Streak-backed or a Bullock’s. > > We at the Hassayampa River Preserve will try to block off part of the trail so that birders can still watch the nest while giving it respectful distance. STAY ON TRAILS! Not only is it against park rules to go off trail, but you would also be trampling wildlife habitat and risking encounters with rattlesnakes. The Preserve is currently open on Thursday-Sunday from 7am-4pm, trails closing at 3:30pm. Admission is $5 per person unless you have a Maricopa County Parks annual pass. We are only accepting credit/debit cards or exact cash at this time. All visitors are expected to adhere to current Maricopa County mandates regarding face mask usage and social distancing to help reduce spread of COVID-19. > > Good birding, > > Eric Hough > Interpretive Ranger, Hassayampa River Preserve > > Sent from my iPhone
Hi folks, We've been having just our regular summer breeding birds here at the Foothills Road feeders in Portal. This includes small numbers of Black-chinned and Broad-billed hummers, Blue Grosbeaks, Black-throated Sparrows, Cardinals and Pyrrhuloxias, Crissal and Curve-billed Thrashers, Ash-throated and Brown-crested Flycatchers, Cassin's Kingbird, Bewick's Wren, and Canyon and occasional Abert's towhees, among others. Lucy's Warblers and Yellow-breasted Chats seem to be much more conspicuous this year compared to previous years. This morning I had a Rufous-winged Sparrow in the public feeder area which I had not seen for well over a month, although I think there had been a recent report of this species at our feeders. Early mornings have been cool but temperatures have been warming rapidly. All for now. Stay safe.
Date: 6/24/20 3:46 pm From: Eric Hough <thebirdwhisperer22...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]CAZ: Hassayampa R. Preserve STREAK-BACKED ORIOLE
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Cheryl Gross photographed a female STREAK-BACKED ORIOLE building a nest along Mesquite Meander trail at the Hassayampa River Preserve near Wickenburg (Maricopa Co.). It appears the most recent sighting was 6/19/20. Noticing the similar shaped old nest from last year in the same tree, it appears now this is the 2nd year she has tried nesting here (Troy Corman confirmed nest ID). Last year it was mistakenly assumed to be Bullock’s nest. It is unknown if she has paired with another Streak-backed or a Bullock’s.
We at the Hassayampa River Preserve will try to block off part of the trail so that birders can still watch the nest while giving it respectful distance. STAY ON TRAILS! Not only is it against park rules to go off trail, but you would also be trampling wildlife habitat and risking encounters with rattlesnakes. The Preserve is currently open on Thursday-Sunday from 7am-4pm, trails closing at 3:30pm. Admission is $5 per person unless you have a Maricopa County Parks annual pass. We are only accepting credit/debit cards or exact cash at this time. All visitors are expected to adhere to current Maricopa County mandates regarding face mask usage and social distancing to help reduce spread of COVID-19.
Good birding,
Eric Hough Interpretive Ranger, Hassayampa River Preserve
Date: 6/24/20 3:44 pm From: Shirley Maas <dtmsem2006...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Corrales Bosque Preserve - 23 June 2020 - no real rarities
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Thank you for posting to AZBirds I really enjoy the posts from everyone Don MaasOK CountyChoctaw, OK for the summer
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On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 4:57 PM, Janet Ruth <janetmruth...> wrote:
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Hi all,
Someone commented to me the other day that they miss postings on this list-serve since so many people just submit to eBird and leave it at that. I'm certainly guilty of that. So here's 2 eBird reports from my visit to the Corrales Bosque Preserve yesterday. Corrales Bosque -- La Entrada - East Ella, Sandoval, New Mexico, US Jun 23, 2020 6:50 AM - 11:15 AM Protocol: Traveling 4.5 mile(s) Checklist Comments: entered at East Ella/Boyscout Bridge; walked north in the bosque near the river north past Dixon Bridge to barrel marker 3.8; then walked back along the Corrales Lateral 38 species (+2 other taxa) Wood Duck 1 Mallard 4 young were actually half-grown White-winged Dove 13 Mourning Dove 5 Black-chinned Hummingbird 27 Killdeer 3 hanging out together on sandbars in the river Spotted Sandpiper 3 one on the sandbar with the Killdeer; two others later flying south on the river Neotropic/Double-crested Cormorant 3 never got really good look at any; all flying north on the river; 2 together - appeared rather bulky Black-crowned Night-Heron 1 Roosting in a tree along the Corrales Lateral; will add photo later; Turkey Vulture 1 Downy Woodpecker 2 Western Wood-Pewee 3 Black Phoebe 5 Say's Phoebe 6 interesting to me that 4 of these were seen perching on sandbars or snags in the river; not used to seeing them there Ash-throated Flycatcher 7 Black-capped Chickadee 3 Northern Rough-winged Swallow 5 Barn Swallow 5 Cliff Swallow 25 swallow sp. 50 Bushtit 11 White-breasted Nuthatch 5 Bewick's Wren 7 Northern Mockingbird 1 Eastern Bluebird 1 American Robin 7 Cedar Waxwing 3 one single individual; and a pair together in a tree; there has been some recent breeding documentation in Corrales bosque I believe; tried to get photos but they flew House Finch 6 Lesser Goldfinch 4 Chipping Sparrow 1 Spotted Towhee 25 Yellow-breasted Chat 19 Brown-headed Cowbird 7 Lucy's Warbler 1 interesting that it was singing out in the willows near the river; not in cottonwood gallery forest where I've seen them before Common Yellowthroat 6 Yellow Warbler 1 male singing and responding aggressively to playback; thought I heard a chip (perhaps a pair?) but could never confirm that there were two Summer Tanager 1 first year male; splotchy yellow and red Black-headed Grosbeak 9 Blue Grosbeak 9 Lazuli Bunting 2 View this checklist online at https://ebird.org/checklist/S70752801
And the second, shorter foray because it was getting HOT! Corrales Bosque -- Romero Rd. entrance, Sandoval, New Mexico, US Jun 23, 2020 11:25 AM - 12:10 PM Protocol: Traveling 1.0 mile(s) Checklist Comments: walked in at Romero Road entrance; up along Clear Ditch to Harvey Jones Channel and back along the levee road 18 species (+2 other taxa) White-winged Dove 2 Mourning Dove 1 Black-chinned Hummingbird 4 Killdeer 2 Cooper's Hawk 1 Black Phoebe 1 Barn Swallow 7 swallow sp. 10 Bushtit 5 Bewick's Wren 1 bluebird sp. 4 House Finch 3 Lesser Goldfinch 1 Chipping Sparrow 1 Spotted Towhee 2 Yellow-breasted Chat 3 Common Yellowthroat 2 Summer Tanager 1 Blue Grosbeak 3 Lazuli Bunting 1 View this checklist online at https://ebird.org/checklist/S70752986
Keep safe and well. Wear masks. Janet Ruth Corrales, NM Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/24/20 2:57 pm From: Janet Ruth <janetmruth...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Corrales Bosque Preserve - 23 June 2020 - no real rarities
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Hi all,
Someone commented to me the other day that they miss postings on this list-serve since so many people just submit to eBird and leave it at that. I'm certainly guilty of that. So here's 2 eBird reports from my visit to the Corrales Bosque Preserve yesterday.
Corrales Bosque -- La Entrada - East Ella, Sandoval, New Mexico, US Jun 23, 2020 6:50 AM - 11:15 AM Protocol: Traveling 4.5 mile(s) Checklist Comments: entered at East Ella/Boyscout Bridge; walked north in the bosque near the river north past Dixon Bridge to barrel marker 3.8; then walked back along the Corrales Lateral 38 species (+2 other taxa)
Wood Duck 1 Mallard 4 young were actually half-grown White-winged Dove 13 Mourning Dove 5 Black-chinned Hummingbird 27 Killdeer 3 hanging out together on sandbars in the river Spotted Sandpiper 3 one on the sandbar with the Killdeer; two others later flying south on the river Neotropic/Double-crested Cormorant 3 never got really good look at any; all flying north on the river; 2 together - appeared rather bulky Black-crowned Night-Heron 1 Roosting in a tree along the Corrales Lateral; will add photo later; Turkey Vulture 1 Downy Woodpecker 2 Western Wood-Pewee 3 Black Phoebe 5 Say's Phoebe 6 interesting to me that 4 of these were seen perching on sandbars or snags in the river; not used to seeing them there Ash-throated Flycatcher 7 Black-capped Chickadee 3 Northern Rough-winged Swallow 5 Barn Swallow 5 Cliff Swallow 25 swallow sp. 50 Bushtit 11 White-breasted Nuthatch 5 Bewick's Wren 7 Northern Mockingbird 1 Eastern Bluebird 1 American Robin 7 Cedar Waxwing 3 one single individual; and a pair together in a tree; there has been some recent breeding documentation in Corrales bosque I believe; tried to get photos but they flew House Finch 6 Lesser Goldfinch 4 Chipping Sparrow 1 Spotted Towhee 25 Yellow-breasted Chat 19 Brown-headed Cowbird 7 Lucy's Warbler 1 interesting that it was singing out in the willows near the river; not in cottonwood gallery forest where I've seen them before Common Yellowthroat 6 Yellow Warbler 1 male singing and responding aggressively to playback; thought I heard a chip (perhaps a pair?) but could never confirm that there were two Summer Tanager 1 first year male; splotchy yellow and red Black-headed Grosbeak 9 Blue Grosbeak 9 Lazuli Bunting 2
And the second, shorter foray because it was getting HOT!
Corrales Bosque -- Romero Rd. entrance, Sandoval, New Mexico, US Jun 23, 2020 11:25 AM - 12:10 PM Protocol: Traveling 1.0 mile(s) Checklist Comments: walked in at Romero Road entrance; up along Clear Ditch to Harvey Jones Channel and back along the levee road 18 species (+2 other taxa)
White-winged Dove 2 Mourning Dove 1 Black-chinned Hummingbird 4 Killdeer 2 Cooper's Hawk 1 Black Phoebe 1 Barn Swallow 7 swallow sp. 10 Bushtit 5 Bewick's Wren 1 bluebird sp. 4 House Finch 3 Lesser Goldfinch 1 Chipping Sparrow 1 Spotted Towhee 2 Yellow-breasted Chat 3 Common Yellowthroat 2 Summer Tanager 1 Blue Grosbeak 3 Lazuli Bunting 1
Janet Ruth Corrales, NMHome Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
There was a singing Rufous-capped Warbler in Scheelite Canyon in the Huachuca Mountains this morning. The bird was seen singing at the slide area of the canyon about 2.4 km up the trail from the parking lot. There might have been a second bird present.
I believe that this is a new site for RCWA in the Huachuca Mountains.
We live a few miles down the bajada from Madera Canyon. Last Saturday we had a new yard bird - a regal female Montezuma Quail. Saw Lady MOQU again Tuesday and Wednesday, same time (6:50 pm). Typically vocalizing and scratching around on our garden patio gravel, as close as 15 feet. Today she showed up at 5:30 pm, same scratching, soon followed by Sir MOQU! What a wildly ostentatious bird is he!! They hung around for 10 minutes, visiting our waterfall, being quite impervious to our presence. Lots of phone video. I’ll look around tomorrow for a nest, and throw out some cracked corn. While I know this is not a rare bird, today it was a rare encounter! Stan and Pam Hart
Date: 6/22/20 8:38 am From: Jody Williams <fisherwoods...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Arthur Pack Park, Phainopeplas
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This morning I recorded at least nine Phainopeplas at the park in NW Tucson. Since they have been scarce for the last two months, I’m wondering if the fire has driven them off the Santa Catalinas. At least two were this year’s juvenile plumage birds with dark eyes. Else where, there were four Black-crowned Night-herons at the 9th hole pond. Saw one Northern Shoveler and a flyover Neotropic Cormorant. Both the 7th pond and the 13th pond were getting refilled. The 7th had dropped to a point that was about 18” down. The low water revealed the incompetence of the golfers with hundreds of balls visible. And the rather healthy turtle population often is lining the shore sun bathing. Two coveys of quail were are about half grown, 10 in one 11 in the other. There is still one more covey of “Littles” only a few weeks old. With active mowing, I didn’t see any Greater Roadrunners.
Date: 6/20/20 2:24 pm From: Jody Williams <fisherwoods...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]#160 at Arthur Pack Park
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This morning I found this singing Bulloch’s Oriole by the 16th tee. I thought I heard one a couple days ago, but with several mockingbirds around, I let it pass. It was my 160th species at Arthur Pack. I kicked up a Lesser Nighthawk which landed behind a cholla. I could see it but no way to get the camera to focus on it. It was nice to see with the bins at about 20 feet. Did not see the shovelers so they may be gone finally. 48 Ruddy’s tripped ebirds “Are you sure” algorythm. 4 roadrunners was nice, three together behind the 4th green. Watched a Cooper’s Hawk bedevil a Common Raven, forcing it to do barrel rolls to ward off the attack, then it dove into one of the mesquites. A Says Phoebe was only the second I’ve seen in the last 6 weeks. Lots of hummingbird spp. , too fast to tell many of them. Many species are chowing on the saguaro fruit. Over the last week I’ve seen Cactus Wren, Black-tailed Gnatcatchers, and Verdin carrying nesting materials.
Date: 6/20/20 6:21 am From: Olga Harbour <oharbour...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ Chiricahua Mountains
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Good morning folks,
A friend and I spent yesterday birding in the Chiricahuas, mainly along Pinery Canyon Road and up to Rustler Park. No rarities were staked out in the making of this trip.
Our best sighting of the day happened almost immediately after we turned onto PInery Canyon, where we watched a *Loggerhead Shrike* fly with a whiptail lizard to a barbed wire fence. You can guess the rest. The bird impaled the lizard on a barb. This was the first time either of us had seen this. Lots of pictures were taken.
On up the road, we stopped at several places along the creek and saw *Black-throated gray warblers* feeding young, *Plumbeous Vireo*, *White-breasted Nuthatch*, *Bridled Titmouse*, *Mexican Jay*, and *Acorn Woodpecker*. We stopped long enough at the old campground to see *Red-**faced Warbler*, *Yellow-eyed Junco*, and *Hermit Thrush*. There were way too many birders for comfort, so we headed up to Rustler Park.
At Rustler Park, we saw *Hairy Woodpecker* feeding young and many *American Robins*. After lunch we headed back down toward Pinery Canyon which was still pretty crowded, so did not stop. At a stop at lower elevation, we saw yet more young being fed, this time *Brown Creepers*. At the same stop we added *Arizona Woodpecker* to the day's list.
It was a pure pleasure to be in the cooler weather of the mountains and see all the young birds being tended by their parents!
Date: 6/20/20 1:19 am From: Andrew Core <tucsonrba...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]RBA Tucson, AZ - 19 June 2020
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Hello Birders,
This update of Tucson Audubon Society's Rare Bird Alert for Southeast Arizona was made on June 19, 2020; the next update will be made on June 26. Phone your reports to 520-629-0510 X 3, or email to rarebirdalert AT tucsonaudubon.org.
SEVERAL IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS follow the sightings, including information on temporary closures and rules for access to other important birding areas. Abbreviation "m.ob." = multiple observers. An asterisk (*) preceding a species name in the list indicates that it merits careful, full documentation. A pound sign (#) indicates that brief corroborating details are warranted. Documentation and photos of review species may be submitted at http://www.azfo.org/gallery/1main/whatIsABC.html.
ACCESS NOTE: Many areas remain closed due to COVID19, such as the Paton Center for Hummingbirds in Patagonia and Nature Conservancy properties (i.e., Ramsey Canyon, Patagonia-Sonoita Creek). The Catalina Highway up Mt. Lemmon is closed at the base due to the Bighorn Fire, and Ft Huachuca is only issuing new passes to local residents. If in doubt, call ahead.
PORTAL & the CHIRICAHUAS (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/XfXfX) An *EARED QUETZAL was seen again along FR42A between the Southwest Research Station (SWRS) and John Hands picnic area on 6/13 and 6/14 (m.ob.). The same bird was photographed about 5 miles away in Pinery Canyon on 6/15 (Greg Scyphers), but then reappeared in the original location that afternoon and continued through 6/16. There were no reports on 6/17 or 6/18. The specific area it was regularly seen is about 0.7 miles from the SWRS, there are 8 cabins here, fenced off from the road. The bird has been inside this fenced off area, seen from the road. DO NOT cross the fence into the cabin area; these are private leases and not publicly accessible. It has been heard as far upstream as the John Hands picnic area. A #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD was reported on 6/13 near the cabins and seen throughout the week along the road. A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD was photographed on 6/19 (Derek Hameister). *CRESCENT-CHESTED WARBLERS continued in Morse Canyon this week through 6/17 (m.ob.). Map: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L5495120. #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued in a yard in Whitetail Canyon this week, and a #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD was reported on 6/16 (Rick Taylor). In Portal, #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued in multiple locations. A #SHORT-TAILED HAWK was reported in Cave Creek Canyon on 6/19 (Cameron Johnson, et al).
SIERRA VISTA & the HUACHUCAS In Huachuca Canyon, a *TROPICAL PARULA was reported and photographed on 6/18 and 6/19 (m.ob.) at the 1.7-mile parking area – it reportedly has been present since 6/12. A current and valid visitor pass is required to visit Ft Huachuca; if you live within 60 miles of the base you can get a new pass or renew an existing pass. In Miller Canyon, a *FLAME-COLORED TANAGER was reported again on 6/17 (Robert Thoren), the first report since 6/8. Most sightings have come from just past the sign for the Hunter Canyon trail. #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) about 100 yards before Split Rock (about a mile from the parking area). A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued through 6/18 (m.ob.). Two #HOODED WARBLERS continued through 6/16 (m.ob.). #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued at Ash Canyon Bird Sanctuary (m.ob.). and in several yards on the east flank of the Huachucas this week (m.ob.)
TUBAC area (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/yDqi0) Multiple *ROSE-THROATED BECARDS continued about 0.7 miles north of the Tubac bridge this week (m.ob.). A #GREEN KINGFISHER continued along the Santa Cruz River between Santa Gertrudis Lane and Clark Crossing Rd this week (m.ob.). In Montosa Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/8L8tv) #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued this week (m.ob.) near the culvert, upstream of the concrete stream crossing.
NOGALES area #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJARS continued this week (m.ob.) at the south end of California Gulch at the confluence with Warsaw Canyon. Annotated map: http://goo.gl/wSr0mi.
BUENOS AIRES NWR #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJAR continued in the Brown Canyon section of Buenos Aires NWR (https://ebird.org/hotspot/L7699167) through 6/19 (m.ob.). on the publicly accessible (east) side of the gate. There are three cattle guards on Brown Canyon Rd (#102) leading up to the security gate, which is 3.5 miles from Hwy 286. In past years the best location for hearing a nightjar is between the third cattle guard and the gate but they have been heard at all three cattle guards. Photo opportunities may be limited as the better habitat is not adjacent to public access along Rd 102 (see map here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QeU5ec7Kr0oknsozu-yHfw2RzQKnBVsL/view?usp=sharing ). Another area is along BANWR Rd 148 (high clearance recommended) – the turnoff is just before the first cattle guard. DO NOT ACCESS BY FOOT OR BY VEHICLE- the private land holding north of Rd 102 as shown on the map (between cattle guards #1 and #2). DO NOT ENTER the roads leading to the coral and watering facility. Faded signs indicating “Stay Out” are posted but could be easily missed. Access to State Trust Land must be done with proper state permits. For details regarding access to the restricted area (west of the gate) contact the refuge headquarters (520.823.4251 ext 101).
GREEN VALLEY & the SANTA RITAS At Canoa Ranch Conservation Park a #LEAST TERN photographed on 6/18 (Roger Clark) and seen by many throughout the day. In Florida Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/AAzD6), #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) in the West Fork near the dam. Directions: About 400 yards from parking lot is a metal gate, and just past the gate the canyon forks. The main trail follows the East Fork, but most sightings have been in the West Fork to the right. About 125 yards up the rough trail in the West Fork is a large water tank and a low dam. The oak grove is about 1/3 mile past the dam. Note: The trail for the West Fork can be difficult to find, and is steep and rough in places. If you see the sign with distances to Florida Saddle, Madera Canyon, etc you've missed the turn. It is not necessary, recommended or permissible to enter the research station to see these birds. #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued in Florida Canyon this week (m.ob.); they've been seen near the Florida Canyon parking area and a short distance up the trail, and at the old corral at FR488 & 62A. In Madera Canyon (map: http://goo.gl/dXBYP), a #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD continued at the Santa Rita Lodge this week through 6/15 (m.ob.). In Box Canyon (map: http://bit.ly/BoxCanyonAZ), a #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRD continued this week (m.ob.).
WILLCOX & the SULPHUR SPRINGS VALLEY A #RED-EYED VIREO was reported in a yard in Willcox on 6/15 (Max Jarrett).
BENSON area A #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER continued on the Guindani Loop Trail at Kartchner Caverns State Park this week (m.ob.).
The Pima County Regional Wastewater Reclamation Department security procedures are subject to change any time. Please see the "bird watching" link on this page for important information regarding access: http://webcms.pima.gov/government/wastewaterreclamation/
RAMSEY CANYON - Ramsey Canyon Preserve is closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
ASH CANYON B&B: open dawn to dusk EXCEPT Thursday, when open noon to dusk. Parking is limited; please carpool whenever possible. No need to call ahead.
FORT HUACHUCA - access requirements are posted on its official webpage at https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/visitor-information. The Visitor Control Center is located at the Van Deman Gate on Hwy 90. The fort is an active military installation and will suspend your driving privileges on Post for 30 days on your first offense for talking or using a cell phone while driving. You MUST use a hands free device. Current entry requirements (subject to change without notice): US citizens must pass a background check and should be prepared to show photo ID for everyone in the vehicle at the entrance, and possibly your vehicle registration and insurance as well. Foreign nationals must be accompanied by an approved military escort; contact the base (520.533.7111), or possibly the Sierra Vista Visitor's Bureau (520.417.6960) well in advance. ACCESS NOTE: apparently some states driver's licenses do not meet federal requirements for base entry (KY, ME, MT, PA, SC, MN, MO, and WA); see https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs for details.
SANTA CRUZ FLATS: Management at the Evergreen Turf Sod Farm has asked birders not to drive into the property (i.e., the 2750 road); birding from perimeter roads (i.e., Tweedy or Pretzer) is still fine.
AVRA VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. Gates open 7AM and close PROMPTLY at 2PM (do not linger, you will be locked inside).
GREEN VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. When open (usually weekends), use the call box at the gate, sign in and out at the office, and stay away from buildings and construction equipment.
ROGER ROAD WRF, CORONA DE TUCSON WRF, and NOGALES STP: Closed.
Date: 6/19/20 10:49 am From: David Vander Pluym <scre...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]AZFO: New photos of Red-necked Grebe, Short-tailed Hawk, White-eared Hummingbird and more
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Field Ornithologists,
David Nelson contributed photos of Little Blue Heron, Brendan Galvin contributed photos of White-eared Hummingbird, Ryan O’Donnell contributed photos of two different Red-necked Grebes, Short-tailed Hawk, and additional photos of Clay-colored Thrush, and Nick Pulcinella contributed photos of Least Tern. Thanks David, Brendan, Ryan, and Nick!
Thanks to all who use the online form below to submit photos. It makes our job a lot easier and ensures your photos will be posted more quickly.
Date: 6/18/20 11:40 am From: Catherine Davis <catherineann...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Least tern at Canoa
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> On Jun 18, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Roger & Carol Clark <rogercarolclark...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Watching a least tern (pics) at Canoa right now. > > Roger Clark > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/17/20 10:50 pm From: CAROL T. <carol_tepper...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]There are wonderful photos of the eared quetzal on the AZFO website!
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Wow! How exciting and beautiful! I just saw several eared quetzal photos. Thanks for sharing them, photographers; for hosting them, AZFO; and for notifying us, David and Lauren! Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/16/20 2:26 pm From: David Vander Pluym <scre...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]AZFO: Many New Photos including of Eared Quetzal
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Field Ornithologists,
Gary Rosenberg contributed photos of Arctic Tern and Glossy Ibis, Tammy McQuade and Tonya Holland contributed photos of Flame-colored Tanager, Henry Detwiler contributed photos of Red Phalarope, Nancy Bent contributed photos of Magnificent Frigatebird, Roy Morris contributed photos of Tennessee and Canada Warbler, Richard Willott contributed photos of Elegant Terns, Eric Hough contributed photos of Blackpoll Warbler, and Steve Wolfe, Patricia Isaacson, Chris Rohrer, Bob Rodrigues, Gary Rosenberg, and Mary McSparen contributed photos of Eared Quetzal. Thanks Gary, Tammy, Tonya, Henry, Nancy, Roy, Eric, Steve, Patricia, Chris, Bob, and Mary!
Thanks to all who use the online form below to submit photos. It makes our job a lot easier and ensures your photos will be posted more quickly.
Date: 6/16/20 1:29 pm From: Clifford Cathers <azbirding...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]AZ:06/16/20:Willcox and The Chiricahuas
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I took today off (to make up for working the weekend) and decided to play the chase game. I usually lose when this happens, and unfortunately today was not the exception, but it was a gorgeous day afield and the Chiricahua Mountains are always a half ton of soul refreshing. I've seen the quetzal in Arizona a few times, long ago, but it's been a long time between visits.
I left Vail at 4:40 AM and arrived at Pinery Canyon Campground on the west flank of the Chiricahua Mountains at about 6:30 AM. Per Gary's email yesterday, I stopped and wandered about for an hour here but didn't hear or see a quetzal. Lots of other good stuff including RED-FACED and GRACE'S WARBLERs, PLUMBEOUS, WARBLING and HUTTON'S VIREOs, HAIRY WOODPECKER and the like. Soon birders drove by saying the quetzal was in Herb Martyr, so I headed over there. The report up and down the line was the bird was calling at John Hands at 5:00 AM, was chased upstream, and then disappeared for the rest of the morning. I walked up and down road from this point, and being an ear birder, I was expecting to hear the bird at least. I did not, and no one heard or saw it either as of the time I left. Not many people looking today, but I know this bird is still around, and erratic or sporadic sightings will continue. After the weekend, though, it seems to have changed it's behavior, spending more time upstream from John Hands and away from the cabin areas.
I drove back up and over Onion Saddle and tried Pinery Canyon Campground for another hour, but again nothing. My sampling was a morning, meager I know, and I'm certain this bird is still in the range, somewhere along the extensive watered stream beds.
BLACK-CHINNED SPARROWs are actively singing in the former burned areas facing east from Onion Saddle eastward. As in the Santa Catalina Mountains, BLUE-GRAY GNATCATCHERs are now breeding thickly in the regenerative underbrush even at higher elevations. They were literally every 50 yards or so. A RUFOUS-WINGED SPARROW singing along Route 186 just north of 181 seemed like an odd spot. BOTTERI'S SPARROW were singing near the entrance to Chiricahua National Monument. SCALED QUAIL were all over the road on 186 in the early morning and SWAINSON'S HAWKs were on lots of agave stalks.
Willcox had lots of young BLACK-NECKED STILTs, a few WILSON'S PHALAROPEs and scads of young screech-Plovers (KILLDEER). A nice BULLOCK'S ORIOLE was in the willow by the golf course pond along with the noisiest large family of WESTERN KINGBIRDs ever.
Date: 6/15/20 3:28 pm From: James Purcell <jpurcell1616...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Southeastern AZ rarities
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Hello AZ birders,
I'm hoping to track down some of the continuing rarities in AZ in the next couple weeks, and I was just hoping to get some clarifications / specific location info on any of the following.
Buff-collared Nightjar(s) at Buenos Aires NWR - I see the pin on eBird is on W Brown Bear Canyon Rd, but any tips on where to look specifically?
Common Crane at Mormon Lake - any specific spots to check around the lake where the bird frequents?
Crescent-chested Warbler(s) at Morse Canyon - any specific areas along the trail the birds are typically seen?
Lastly, in terms of all of these spots as well as the Eared Quetzal that I know was reported from both the Herb Martyr and Pinery Canyon area beyond Onion Saddle, are these spots accessible / are road conditions good enough for a car with low clearance (I have a Toyota Prius)?
Thank you so much in advance for any info!
James Purcell Asheville, NC Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/15/20 12:24 pm From: Doug Jenness <d_jenness...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]New article on Western and Clark's Grebes
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6/15/20
A new article on Western and Clark's Grebes at San Carlos Lake has just been posted on the Arizona Birds website http://arizonabirds.org/journalA It focuses on the challenge these grebes have in nesting at the lake due to the fluctuations of water levels. Arizona Birds is the AZFO's online journal.
Other recent articles appearing in the journal have been on Arizona's first records of Ringed Kingfisher and Common Crane, Burrowing Owls in the Lake Havasu area, and how the the new Yuma County bird checklist was prepared. A new article on a first northern Arizona Chimney Swift and ID differences between this and Vaux's Swift will be coming soon.
Date: 6/15/20 11:42 am From: Gary Rosenberg <ghrosenberg...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal in Pinery Canyon
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Hi All,
I just received a call from Greg Scyphers from Nevada, who just found and photographed an immature male Eared Quetzal at Pinery Canyon on the other side of Onion Saddle - he says the bird was very vocal and “singing” not just calling. The coordinates are 31 55 59 ; -109 16 22 - and according to Google Earth, this is the small defunct campground in Pinery after the road straightens out a bit after the steep switchbacks - heading east. He said that the bird was AWOL from Herb Martyr this morning - and suggests that it might be the same bird, but then again, might be different - he got good photos that I am sure we will be able to compare with the excellent photos of the Herb Martyr bird.
Date: 6/15/20 11:04 am From: Catherine Davis <catherineann...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal Update
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If you cannot wear a mask, stay home. My opinion.
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> On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Let's close this thread. The topic is discussed widely elsewhere on the web. I encourage those who are interested to continue their research and conversations off of aznmbirds. > > Thanks. > > Mark Stevenson > co-listowner, aznmbirds > Tucson, AZ > >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 10:38 AM Martha Bowes <mhbowes11...> wrote: >> External Email >> >> I'm not any sort of expert, and I'd hoped that the sun's UV light could kill Covid-19, but apparently there are experts who say it's an insufficient amount of UV to do the job. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/30/fact-check-sunlight-does-not-kill-new-coronavirus/2931170001/ >> >>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:56 AM Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy...> wrote: >>> External Email >>> >>> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html >>> >>> db >>> >>>>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:14 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Not at all. If masks are effective, then the other person is protected by his wearing a mask, not by my wearing one. It isn't right to demand that I endanger my own health and life to make other people FEEL safe. The authorities cannot even agree on how valid it is to wear masks. I have done a great deal of research, and there is plenty of evidence that wearing masks does not protect others, and can harm the wearer. >>>> >>>> As I said, they're not needed outside anyway. >>>> >>>> Pat Goltz >>>> >>>>> On 2020-06-14 20:58, Dennis Braddy wrote: >>>>> External Email >>>>> Wearing a mask is not for protecting yourself. It’s for protecting >>>>> others. If you cannot wear a mask then please stay away from other >>>>> people. It is not just a courtesy and it is not just a personal >>>>> choice. Not wearing a mask while around others is selfish as it puts >>>>> other people’s lives at risk. >>>>> db >>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: >>>>>> External Email >>>>>> Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing masks. >>>>>> I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of convincing other people I am courteous. >>>>>> Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. >>>>>> In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! >>>>>> Pat Goltz >>>>>> Pima County >>>>>>> On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: >>>>>>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the >>>>>>> Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction >>>>>>> with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - >>>>>>> often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its >>>>>>> “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen >>>>>>> at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods >>>>>>> of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, >>>>>>> and where your mask if you are close to other birders! >>>>>>> Good birding, >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> Gary H. Rosenberg >>>>>>> Tucson, Arizona >>>>>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>>>>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>>>>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >>>>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>>>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>>>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/15/20 10:45 am From: Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal Update
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Let's close this thread. The topic is discussed widely elsewhere on the web. I encourage those who are interested to continue their research and conversations off of aznmbirds.
Thanks.
Mark Stevenson co-listowner, aznmbirds Tucson, AZ
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 10:38 AM Martha Bowes <mhbowes11...> wrote:
> *External Email* > I'm not any sort of expert, and I'd hoped that the sun's UV light could > kill Covid-19, but apparently there are experts who say it's an > insufficient amount of UV to do the job. > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/03/30/fact-check-sunlight-does-not-kill-new-coronavirus/2931170001/ > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:56 AM Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy...> wrote: > >> *External Email* >> >> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html >> >> db >> >> On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:14 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: >> >> Not at all. If masks are effective, then the other person is protected >> by his wearing a mask, not by my wearing one. It isn't right to demand that >> I endanger my own health and life to make other people FEEL safe. The >> authorities cannot even agree on how valid it is to wear masks. I have done >> a great deal of research, and there is plenty of evidence that wearing >> masks does not protect others, and can harm the wearer. >> >> As I said, they're not needed outside anyway. >> >> Pat Goltz >> >> On 2020-06-14 20:58, Dennis Braddy wrote: >> >> External Email >> >> Wearing a mask is not for protecting yourself. It’s for protecting >> >> others. If you cannot wear a mask then please stay away from other >> >> people. It is not just a courtesy and it is not just a personal >> >> choice. Not wearing a mask while around others is selfish as it puts >> >> other people’s lives at risk. >> >> db >> >> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: >> >> External Email >> >> Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the >> weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing >> masks. >> >> I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could >> seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit >> that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of >> convincing other people I am courteous. >> >> Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you >> are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is >> not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the >> sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the >> concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, >> so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical >> problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and >> if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. >> >> In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the >> Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! >> >> Pat Goltz >> >> Pima County >> >> On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> Hi all, >> >> At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the >> >> Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction >> >> with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - >> >> often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its >> >> “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen >> >> at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods >> >> of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, >> >> and where your mask if you are close to other birders! >> >> Good birding, >> >> Gary >> >> Gary H. Rosenberg >> >> Tucson, Arizona >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
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> *External Email* > > https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html > > db > > On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:14 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > Not at all. If masks are effective, then the other person is protected > by his wearing a mask, not by my wearing one. It isn't right to demand that > I endanger my own health and life to make other people FEEL safe. The > authorities cannot even agree on how valid it is to wear masks. I have done > a great deal of research, and there is plenty of evidence that wearing > masks does not protect others, and can harm the wearer. > > As I said, they're not needed outside anyway. > > Pat Goltz > > On 2020-06-14 20:58, Dennis Braddy wrote: > > External Email > > Wearing a mask is not for protecting yourself. It’s for protecting > > others. If you cannot wear a mask then please stay away from other > > people. It is not just a courtesy and it is not just a personal > > choice. Not wearing a mask while around others is selfish as it puts > > other people’s lives at risk. > > db > > On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > External Email > > Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the > weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing > masks. > > I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could > seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit > that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of > convincing other people I am courteous. > > Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you > are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is > not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the > sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the > concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, > so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical > problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and > if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. > > In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the > Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! > > Pat Goltz > > Pima County > > On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > Hi all, > > At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the > > Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction > > with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - > > often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its > > “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen > > at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods > > of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, > > and where your mask if you are close to other birders! > > Good birding, > > Gary > > Gary H. Rosenberg > > Tucson, Arizona > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/15/20 9:16 am From: Richard Castetter <rcastett...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Berylline Hummingbird Returns to Cave Creek
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Yesterday a male BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD was observed in the area of the first two cabins beyond the cattle grate on FR42A just up from the SWRS. The Berylline was spotted at this same location last summer and was apparently shuttling along the stream between the SWRS and the Crystal Cave wash area.
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> On Jun 14, 2020, at 10:14 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > Not at all. If masks are effective, then the other person is protected by his wearing a mask, not by my wearing one. It isn't right to demand that I endanger my own health and life to make other people FEEL safe. The authorities cannot even agree on how valid it is to wear masks. I have done a great deal of research, and there is plenty of evidence that wearing masks does not protect others, and can harm the wearer. > > As I said, they're not needed outside anyway. > > Pat Goltz > >> On 2020-06-14 20:58, Dennis Braddy wrote: >> External Email >> Wearing a mask is not for protecting yourself. It’s for protecting >> others. If you cannot wear a mask then please stay away from other >> people. It is not just a courtesy and it is not just a personal >> choice. Not wearing a mask while around others is selfish as it puts >> other people’s lives at risk. >> db >>>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: >>> External Email >>> Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing masks. >>> I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of convincing other people I am courteous. >>> Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. >>> In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! >>> Pat Goltz >>> Pima County >>>> On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: >>>> EXTERNAL EMAIL >>>> Hi all, >>>> At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the >>>> Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction >>>> with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - >>>> often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its >>>> “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen >>>> at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods >>>> of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, >>>> and where your mask if you are close to other birders! >>>> Good birding, >>>> Gary >>>> Gary H. Rosenberg >>>> Tucson, Arizona >>> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >>> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >>> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
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Date: 6/15/20 12:05 am From: Jack Daynes <jackdaynes...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]2020-05-27 Arivaca Cienega
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This post finishes the Arizona-New Mexico component of my return trip from Texas. The last instalment about Cattle Call Park in Brawley California can be found on my Home Page if anyone has an interest, but I won't be posting the link here because it doesn't fit group guidelines. I've been visiting Arivaca for 18 years and always enjoy my visits.
[Snippet] While I was working on vireos, grosbeaks, warblers and flycatchers, I spotted a very large, very dark bird crossing low over the trees a hundred yards away from me. I was in luck! Perched low on the tree in the warm light of the morning sun was a Black Vulture. These birds had been a common sight when I was in south Texas, but this opportunity was too good to squander.
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Is this about the eared quetzal or about all our individual preferences and needs? Can we just keep these posts to bird sightings. Personally, I’m not one to chase birds, just a love for the outdoors and nature, but that has no significance to this post. It’s about sightings.
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> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > External Email > > Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing masks. > > I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of convincing other people I am courteous. > > Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. > > In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! > > Pat Goltz > Pima County > >> On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> Hi all, >> At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the >> Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction >> with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - >> often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its >> “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen >> at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods >> of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, >> and where your mask if you are close to other birders! >> Good birding, >> Gary >> Gary H. Rosenberg >> Tucson, Arizona > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Wearing a mask is not for protecting yourself. It’s for protecting others. If you cannot wear a mask then please stay away from other people. It is not just a courtesy and it is not just a personal choice. Not wearing a mask while around others is selfish as it puts other people’s lives at risk.
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> On Jun 14, 2020, at 8:42 PM, <pgoltz...> wrote: > > External Email > > Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing masks. > > I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of convincing other people I am courteous. > > Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do. > > In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird! > > Pat Goltz > Pima County > >> On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> Hi all, >> At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the >> Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction >> with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - >> often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its >> “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen >> at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods >> of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, >> and where your mask if you are close to other birders! >> Good birding, >> Gary >> Gary H. Rosenberg >> Tucson, Arizona > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Folks, I don't plan to chase the bird, because it is too far away and the weather is too hot. But I would like to offer a brief comment about wearing masks.
I personally should NOT wear a mask for medical reasons. It could seriously harm or even kill me. I won't go into details. I would submit that I should not be expected to endanger my life for the sake of convincing other people I am courteous.
Briefly, the following is true: If masks work, you can wear one and you are not endangered by my not wearing one. If they do not work, then it is not reasonable for you to expect me to wear one. Outside, the UV from the sun quickly deactivates the virus, and air currents attenuate the concentration of any virus so that it falls below normal infection level, so no mask is necessary. Since there may be other people with a medical problem like mine, I think people should respect our personal choices and if necessary simply to physically distance, which I do.
In the meantime, I am enjoying your eBird reports and waiting for the Eared Quetzal to come closer in a future year. That is a beautiful bird!
Pat Goltz Pima County
On 2020-06-14 13:41, Gary Rosenberg wrote: > EXTERNAL EMAIL > Hi all, > > At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the > Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction > with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - > often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its > “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen > at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods > of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, > and where your mask if you are close to other birders! > > Good birding, > > Gary > > Gary H. Rosenberg > Tucson, Arizona > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Eared Quetzals are sighted in Arizona so infrequently that newer members of the birding community are often unaware of what we've learned from previous encounters with this globally rare and highly sensitive species. As a primer for first-time quetzal seekers and a refresher for those lucky enough to have seen (or at least sought) them in the past, here are a few tips that may make the difference between success and failure:
* Eared Quetzals are extremely sensitive to color, a revelation that inspired "Good Birders Don't Wear White." Dress in MUTED, natural colors right down to your shoes, socks and hat. Natural greens, browns, mid-tone grays, and tans all have the quetzal seal of approval, but AVOID white, bright colors, and non-earthy pastels such as light blue. If your wardrobe doesn't include any camo, muted plaids, checks, and floral patterns are the next best thing.
* Eared Quetzals are easier to locate by sound than sight, so prepare by studying recordings of the bird's calls ahead of time. Also be aware that the most commonly heard calls - the loud "squeal-chuck" and the flight cackle - are signs of alarm. If you hear one or both of these calls, it's probable that the bird has seen you or another observer and is in evasive mode. The best strategy is to wait for the bird to calm down before cautiously moving in its direction.
* In areas where the bird has been sighted, move SLOWLY and as little as possible, stay in the shadows, and keep noise to a minimum. The best strategy is to pick a likely spot and stand or sit as still as possible in the shade. Eared Quetzals are extremely stealthy for their size and can fly in quite close to you without you realizing it, so any sudden moves or sounds may result in lost viewing opportunities for yourself and others.
* Prepare for a long wait by dressing in layers and bringing water, snacks, and extra sunscreen. A good look at this exquisite bird is more than worth it.
Thanks for this Gary. Unfortunately, there were MANY folks there a bit later without even the hint of a mask, not even around their neck to pull up when people approach. Having the audacity to want to look through stranger's scopes as well, maskless.
This is disheartening.
Please people. Think about others, & our small community. Wearing a mask is a sign of respect. Please respect us. Or stay home. Our zip code just had its first Covid case. We can't afford more.
Lori & Mark Conrad
Portal, AZ
From: <aznmbirds-request...> [mailto:<aznmbirds-request...>] On Behalf Of Gary Rosenberg Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:41 PM To: <aznmbirds...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal Update
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Hi all,
At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, and where your mask if you are close to other birders!
At least 50+ birders enjoyed the Eared Quetzal this morning along the Herb Martyr Road - again about 0.8 miles up the road from the junction with HWY 42. The bird was quite vocal early on - 5:45 - 6:15 or so - often giving its “Squee-chuck” call while perched, and its “ka-ka-ka-ka-“ call when in flight. The bird was still being seen at about 8:30 when I left - although it can be silent for long periods of time. Good luck if you go - and be respectful of private property, and where your mask if you are close to other birders!
Date: 6/13/20 2:35 pm From: Richard Webster <webster.re...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal crowd control, or lack thereof
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Hi Folks:
So I just received a couple of calls. For instance, one cabin in the Quetzal area has a wildlife camera that feeds live into the owner's home in Tucson. Currently there are more than a dozen people standing around in the "yard" of that cabin, apparently talking and setting up tripods, as opposed to actually seeing the bird.
One concerned person is talking about enlisting support for getting the Forest Service to close the area for the bird's sake.
My original suggestion had included treating the fenced area as off limits both to give the Quetzal an island of peace and to give the cabin owners some breathing room. Obviously that idea did not take hold. There are times in life when one has the legal right to stand in a particular place, but it is not the best idea to stand there. The road and the trail are currently relatively easy access to places from which the bird has been seen and could be seen again.
I have heard other things as well, and they are also all second-, third-, and fourth-hand, but some of the sources are ones I trust. I haven't been up there today, so I am just the messenger about perceived problems and actual tensions.
Richard
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Quetzal seen well noon to 1230 today in cabin area. Just past gate that says "walk in ....." Sent from Yahoo Mail on AndroidHome Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/13/20 12:17 pm From: Mike Judd <ebwilderae...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal and birding etiquette
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Still there? About to turn around in Wilcox.
Mike Judd
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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Webster <webster.re...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Hi Folks: > > With the reappearance of the Eared Quetzal being reported, a few thoughts from the first onslaught as I have heard from various people: > > 1) Please maintain social (Physical) distancing; in the initial round, apparently it was pretty good, but locals are worried about all of this; > > 2) If you must use a bush as a bathroom, please bury your waste and TP; in the initial round, this was apparently not so good. The bathrooms at Herb Martyr Campground are supposed to be open. > > 3) Please be courteous about cabin occupancy; the owners of one cabin fled for their home 90 miles away saying that people were really pretty nice, but they were all over the place. And so forth. > > 4) Give the Quetzal the space it needs. Use a telescope. Watch from a distance. > > Thanks, > > Richard > > Richard Webster > webster.re > AT > gmail.com > > > > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/13/20 12:09 pm From: Marcia Lincoln <boahiss...> Subject: RE: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal and birding etiquette
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Regarding TP. I was disgusted so many people leaving it. Please people. You can buy a cheap plastic toilet seat that clamps on a 5 gallon bucket. Buy one! Sportsman Warehouse had them or on line. Put some sawdust or wood chips in the bottom of the bucket. Going on a day trip or longer? Take it with you and use it! Add more material on top and bring the whole mess home with you and dispose of it there. And sorry for being graphic, but if you only need to pee, there is just no excuse for leaving TP behind. Put it in your pocket. Animals come by later and dig up what you thought you buried unless it is buried deep. So if the urge hits you bad away from your vehicle, carry something you can dig with. Rant over.
Marcia
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From: <aznmbirds-request...> [mailto:<aznmbirds-request...>] On Behalf Of Richard Webster Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:56 AM To: AZ/NM Listserv Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal and birding etiquette
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Hi Folks:
With the reappearance of the Eared Quetzal being reported, a few thoughts from the first onslaught as I have heard from various people:
1) Please maintain social (Physical) distancing; in the initial round, apparently it was pretty good, but locals are worried about all of this;
2) If you must use a bush as a bathroom, please bury your waste and TP; in the initial round, this was apparently not so good. The bathrooms at Herb Martyr Campground are supposed to be open.
3) Please be courteous about cabin occupancy; the owners of one cabin fled for their home 90 miles away saying that people were really pretty nice, but they were all over the place. And so forth.
4) Give the Quetzal the space it needs. Use a telescope. Watch from a distance.
Date: 6/13/20 10:56 am From: Richard Webster <webster.re...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SEAZ: Eared Quetzal and birding etiquette
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Hi Folks:
With the reappearance of the Eared Quetzal being reported, a few thoughts from the first onslaught as I have heard from various people:
1) Please maintain social (Physical) distancing; in the initial round, apparently it was pretty good, but locals are worried about all of this;
2) If you must use a bush as a bathroom, please bury your waste and TP; in the initial round, this was apparently not so good. The bathrooms at Herb Martyr Campground are supposed to be open.
3) Please be courteous about cabin occupancy; the owners of one cabin fled for their home 90 miles away saying that people were really pretty nice, but they were all over the place. And so forth.
4) Give the Quetzal the space it needs. Use a telescope. Watch from a distance.
Thanks,
Richard
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Thanks- I also knew Bob Bates for a very long time- since I moved to Tucson in 1980. He contributed greatly to the birding community in southern Arizona. Condolences to his family.
Sharon Goldwasser
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 11:02 PM, Ray Kellman <raykellman2...> wrote: > > External Email > > Very sad news. I have known Bob since 1972 when I joined the U of A chemistry department in that year. I was new to AZ birds then and Bob brought me up to speed very quickly. I went on field trips with Bob and his two sons, both avid birders. I worked several Christmas counts with him as well. He was a great guy, keen birder > and a great colleague. My condolences to his wife Dee, and David and John. > > Sincerely, > Ray Kellman > > > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy...> <mailto:<dmbraddy...>> wrote: > External Email > > My wife, Pat, and I met Bob Bates on a month-long birding tour of Columbia in 2014. When we introduced ourselves, Bob remembered my name and noted that he had invited me to participate in the CBC and that I had declined. (Oops!) > > Bob was a delight. Whenever we stopped to eat, if it was on the menu he ordered a hamburger. He said his wife wouldn’t him eat hamburgers at home. ;-) > > Bob had a list of potential life birds for the trip - about 36 species written on one side of a small sheet of paper. Given that the eventual group total was close to 1000 species I was duly impressed. > > The group consisted almost entirely of hardcore birders. Bob wasn’t always able to keep up with the torrid pace set by the leader. After all, we celebrated his birthday on that trip. I don’t remember his exact age, but the first digit was 8. Pat often stayed back with Bob went he fell behind. I tried to keep contact with both the lead group and with Bob and Pat, though that wasn’t always possible. Bob never complained. He just persevered with his best possible pace. > > I don’t know how many of his target birds Bob got on that trip, but he seemed pleased with his results. That was the only time we met Bob, but we immediately liked and respected him. He was a good man, pleasant company, and a dedicated birder. > > db > >> On Jun 12, 2020, at 4:16 PM, DAVID J. STEJSKAL <dstejskal...> <mailto:<dstejskal...>> wrote: >> >> >> External Email >> >> Hi birders, >> >> >> >> I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave Bates: >> >> >> >> "Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years." >> >> >> >> Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will be dearly missed. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Dave Stejskal >> >> Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds <https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds> >> To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. >> To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds <https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds> > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/13/20 12:05 am From: Jack Daynes <jackdaynes...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Memories of Boyce Thompson Arboretum
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I've but one more yarn to spin from the return leg of my Texas expedition. I stopped at Boyce Thompson on my way through Arizona on May 26th, but I wanted to add this location to my "Birding Destinations" series, and include elements from prior visits.
[Snippet] I’ve visited this place only three times, so with my limited experience I can’t begin to describe all potential meetings that might be in store for folks spending time here. As a photographer, the possibilities are endless. I’m content to chase birds when I’m here, but the floral or the fine-art photographer could explore these grounds and never exhaust all the possibilities.
Be well all, -- -- -- Jack -- ================================== <https://shadeTreeImaging.com/ <https://shadetreeimaging.com/>> Wildlife Photography with Emphasis on Birds 858-442-1907 Jack Daynes Based in San Diego County, California ================================== I do not chase birds as much as I chase places. I can enjoy the birds I meet, if I enjoy the place I meet them. ================================== Find me at the intersection of Anywhere and Everywhere in North America. ================================== https://shadetreeimaging.com/category/bird-destinations/san-diego-locations/ ================================== Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Very sad news. I have known Bob since 1972 when I joined the U of A chemistry department in that year. I was new to AZ birds then and Bob brought me up to speed very quickly. I went on field trips with Bob and his two sons, both avid birders. I worked several Christmas counts with him as well. He was a great guy, keen birder and a great colleague. My condolences to his wife Dee, and David and John.
Sincerely, Ray Kellman
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy...> wrote:
> *External Email* > My wife, Pat, and I met Bob Bates on a month-long birding tour of Columbia > in 2014. When we introduced ourselves, Bob remembered my name and noted > that he had invited me to participate in the CBC and that I had declined. > (Oops!) > > Bob was a delight. Whenever we stopped to eat, if it was on the menu he > ordered a hamburger. He said his wife wouldn’t him eat hamburgers at home. > ;-) > > Bob had a list of potential life birds for the trip - about 36 species > written on one side of a small sheet of paper. Given that the eventual > group total was close to 1000 species I was duly impressed. > > The group consisted almost entirely of hardcore birders. Bob wasn’t always > able to keep up with the torrid pace set by the leader. After all, we > celebrated his birthday on that trip. I don’t remember his exact age, but > the first digit was 8. Pat often stayed back with Bob went he fell behind. > I tried to keep contact with both the lead group and with Bob and Pat, > though that wasn’t always possible. Bob never complained. He just > persevered with his best possible pace. > > I don’t know how many of his target birds Bob got on that trip, but he > seemed pleased with his results. That was the only time we met Bob, but we > immediately liked and respected him. He was a good man, pleasant company, > and a dedicated birder. > > db > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 4:16 PM, DAVID J. STEJSKAL <dstejskal...> wrote: > > > > *External Email* > > Hi birders, > > > I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U > of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon > after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave > Bates: > > > "Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on > June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over > 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for > over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the > Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years." > > > Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will > be dearly missed. > > > Sincerely, > > Dave Stejskal > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
My wife, Pat, and I met Bob Bates on a month-long birding tour of Columbia in 2014. When we introduced ourselves, Bob remembered my name and noted that he had invited me to participate in the CBC and that I had declined. (Oops!)
Bob was a delight. Whenever we stopped to eat, if it was on the menu he ordered a hamburger. He said his wife wouldn’t him eat hamburgers at home. ;-)
Bob had a list of potential life birds for the trip - about 36 species written on one side of a small sheet of paper. Given that the eventual group total was close to 1000 species I was duly impressed.
The group consisted almost entirely of hardcore birders. Bob wasn’t always able to keep up with the torrid pace set by the leader. After all, we celebrated his birthday on that trip. I don’t remember his exact age, but the first digit was 8. Pat often stayed back with Bob went he fell behind. I tried to keep contact with both the lead group and with Bob and Pat, though that wasn’t always possible. Bob never complained. He just persevered with his best possible pace.
I don’t know how many of his target birds Bob got on that trip, but he seemed pleased with his results. That was the only time we met Bob, but we immediately liked and respected him. He was a good man, pleasant company, and a dedicated birder.
db
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 4:16 PM, DAVID J. STEJSKAL <dstejskal...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Hi birders, > > > > I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave Bates: > > > > "Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years." > > > > Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will be dearly missed. > > > > Sincerely, > > Dave Stejskal > > Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds > To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. > To view archive: click "Archive" on that page. Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/12/20 7:34 pm From: Andrew Core <tucsonrba...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]RBA Tucson, AZ - 12 June 2020
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Hello Birders,
This update of Tucson Audubon Society's Rare Bird Alert for Southeast Arizona was made on June 12, 2020; the next update will be made on June 19. Phone your reports to 520-629-0510 X 3, or email to rarebirdalert AT tucsonaudubon.org.
SEVERAL IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS follow the sightings, including information on temporary closures and rules for access to other important birding areas. Abbreviation "m.ob." = multiple observers. An asterisk (*) preceding a species name in the list indicates that it merits careful, full documentation. A pound sign (#) indicates that brief corroborating details are warranted. Documentation and photos of review species may be submitted at http://www.azfo.org/gallery/1main/whatIsABC.html.
ACCESS NOTE: Many areas remain closed due to COVID19, such as the Paton Center for Hummingbirds in Patagonia and Nature Conservancy properties (i.e., Ramsey Canyon, Patagonia-Sonoita Creek). If in doubt, call ahead.
PORTAL & the CHIRICAHUAS (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/XfXfX) An *EARED QUETZAL was reported along FR42A between the Southwest Research Station (SWRS) and John Hands picnic area on 6/8 (Richard Webster). It was seen by many on 6/9, but not reported subsequently despite many searching. The specific area it was seen is about 0.7 miles from the SWRS, there are 8 cabins here, fenced off from the road. The bird has been inside this fenced off area, seen from the road. Do NOT cross the fence; these are private leases and not publicly accessible. On 6/9 it was heard as far upstream as the John Hands picnic area. *CRESCENT-CHESTED WARBLERS continued in Morse Canyon this week (m.ob.). Map: https://ebird.org/hotspot/L5495120. #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued in a yard in Whitetail Canyon this week (Rick Taylor). In Portal, a #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued in a Portal yard on 6/12 (Rose Ann Rowlett). #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued in multiple locations. A #SHORT-TAILED HAWK was reported at Barfoot Junction on 6/11 (Caleb Strand, et al).
SIERRA VISTA & the HUACHUCAS In Miller Canyon, a *FLAME-COLORED TANAGER continued from just past the sign for the Hunter Canyon trail this week through 6/8 (m.ob.). #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) about 100 yards before Split Rock (about a mile from the parking area). A #WHITE-EARED HUMMINGBIRD continued through 6/5 (m.ob.). Two #HOODED WARBLERS continued through 6/11 (m.ob.). #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRDS continued at Ash Canyon Bird Sanctuary (m.ob.). and in several yards on the east flank of the Huachucas this week (m.ob.)
TUBAC area (annotated map: http://goo.gl/maps/yDqi0) Multiple *ROSE-THROATED BECARDS continued about 0.7 miles north of the Tubac bridge this week (m.ob.). A #GREEN KINGFISHER continued along the Santa Cruz River between Santa Gertrudis Lane and Clark Crossing Rd this week (m.ob.). #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS were reported from Puerto Canyon northwest of Tubac on 6/12 (Richard Fray). From I-19, take the Chaves Siding exit (#40) and turn right/west and then immediately right/north onto the frontage road. In about 0.2 miles, turn left/west onto the good dirt road. This takes you along Puerto Canyon and in 5.2 miles to Puerto Spring. There are no signs along the way to Puerto Spring, but staying on the main road should get you there. Map: http://goo.gl/fRAa4A
NOGALES area #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJARS continued this week (m.ob.) at the south end of California Gulch at the confluence with Warsaw Canyon. Annotated map: http://goo.gl/wSr0mi
BUENOS AIRES NWR #BUFF-COLLARED NIGHTJAR continued in the Brown Canyon section of Buenos Aires NWR (https://ebird.org/hotspot/L7699167) through 6/9 (m.ob.). on the publicly accessible (east) side of the gate. There are three cattle guards on Brown Canyon Rd (#102) leading up to the security gate, which is 3.5 miles from Hwy 286. In past years the best location for hearing a nightjar is between the third cattle guard and the gate but they have been heard at all three cattle guards. Photo opportunities may be limited as the better habitat is not adjacent to public access along Rd 102 (see map here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QeU5ec7Kr0oknsozu-yHfw2RzQKnBVsL/view?usp=sharing ). Another area is along BANWR Rd 148 (high clearance recommended) – the turnoff is just before the first cattle guard. DO NOT ACCESS BY FOOT OR BY VEHICLE- the private land holding north of Rd 102 as shown on the map (between cattle guards #1 and #2). DO NOT ENTER the roads leading to the coral and watering facility. Faded signs indicating “Stay Out” are posted but could be easily missed. Access to State Trust Land must be done with proper state permits. For details regarding access to the restricted area (west of the gate) contact the refuge headquarters (520.823.4251 ext 101).
GREEN VALLEY & the SANTA RITAS In Florida Canyon (annotated map: http://goo.gl/AAzD6), #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLERS continued this week (m.ob.) in the West Fork near the dam. Directions: About 400 yards from parking lot is a metal gate, and just past the gate the canyon forks. The main trail follows the East Fork, but most sightings have been in the West Fork to the right. About 125 yards up the rough trail in the West Fork is a large water tank and a low dam. The oak grove is about 1/3 mile past the dam. Note: The trail for the West Fork can be difficult to find, and is steep and rough in places. If you see the sign with distances to Florida Saddle, Madera Canyon, etc you've missed the turn. It is not necessary, recommended or permissible to enter the research station to see these birds. #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued in Florida Canyon this week (m.ob.); they've been seen near the Florida Canyon parking area and a short distance up the trail, and at the old corral at FR488 & 62A. In Madera Canyon (map: http://goo.gl/dXBYP), a #BERYLLINE HUMMINGBIRD continued at the Santa Rita Lodge this week through 6/12 (m.ob.). In Box Canyon (map: http://bit.ly/BoxCanyonAZ), a #LUCIFER HUMMINGBIRD and #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued this week (m.ob.).
BENSON area A #RUFOUS-CAPPED WARBLER continued on the Guindani Loop Trail at Kartchner Caverns State Park this week (m.ob.).
TUCSON area A #YELLOW-THROATED WARBLER was recorded singing at Sycamore Reservoir on Mt. Lemmon on 6/10 (Mark Stevenson) and continued on 6/12 (m.ob.); this is about a 4 mile roundtrip hike from Gordon Hirabayashi Recreation Area ( http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=454).
DOUGLAS area #BLACK-CAPPED GNATCATCHERS continued in Guadalupe Canyon on 6/6 (m.ob.).
The Pima County Regional Wastewater Reclamation Department security procedures are subject to change any time. Please see the "bird watching" link on this page for important information regarding access: http://webcms.pima.gov/government/wastewaterreclamation/
RAMSEY CANYON - Ramsey Canyon Preserve is closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
ASH CANYON B&B: open dawn to dusk EXCEPT Thursday, when open noon to dusk. Parking is limited; please carpool whenever possible. No need to call ahead.
FORT HUACHUCA - access requirements are posted on its official webpage at https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/visitor-information. The Visitor Control Center is located at the Van Deman Gate on Hwy 90. The fort is an active military installation and will suspend your driving privileges on Post for 30 days on your first offense for talking or using a cell phone while driving. You MUST use a hands free device. Current entry requirements (subject to change without notice): US citizens must pass a background check and should be prepared to show photo ID for everyone in the vehicle at the entrance, and possibly your vehicle registration and insurance as well. ACCESS NOTE: apparently some states driver's licenses do not meet federal requirements for base entry (KY, ME, MT, PA, SC, MN, MO, and WA); see https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs for details.
SANTA CRUZ FLATS: Management at the Evergreen Turf Sod Farm has asked birders not to drive into the property (i.e., the 2750 road); birding from perimeter roads (i.e., Tweedy or Pretzer) is still fine.
AVRA VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. Gates open 7AM and close PROMPTLY at 2PM (do not linger, you will be locked inside).
GREEN VALLEY WRF: under construction, access uncertain. When open (usually weekends), use the call box at the gate, sign in and out at the office, and stay away from buildings and construction equipment.
ROGER ROAD WRF, CORONA DE TUCSON WRF, and NOGALES STP: Closed.
Many good memories of this nice guy and humble and helpful man, especially our finding the Bald Eagle over Redington Pass in 12/94 during the Santa Catalinas Xmas count. Thinking of Dee and his sons.
John Higgins,
> On June 12, 2020 at 7:16 PM "DAVID J. STEJSKAL" <dstejskal...> wrote: > > > External Email > > Hi birders, > > > I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave Bates: > > > "Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years." > > > Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will be dearly missed. > > > Sincerely, > > Dave Stejskal >
Thank you for letting us know. Our thoughts are with his family.
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On Friday, June 12, 2020, 4:16 PM, DAVID J. STEJSKAL <dstejskal...> wrote:
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Hi birders,
I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave Bates:
"Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years."
Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will be dearly missed.
Date: 6/12/20 4:16 pm From: DAVID J. STEJSKAL <dstejskal...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Sad news
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Hi birders,
I just heard the sad news today that longtime Tucson resident, retired U of A professor, and avid birder, Bob Bates, passed away yesterday afternoon after a long battle with an illness. This is from his eldest son, Dave Bates:
"Bob Bates was a long-time Tucson and Arizona birder, and died at home on June 11. He was a very serious world birder, and his world list was over 8000. He compiled the Santa Catalina Mountains Christmas Bird Count for over 50 years, before handing it over a few years ago. He also did the Tucson Valley and Nogales CBC for many years."
Bob is survived by his wife Dee and his two sons, Dave and John. Bob will be dearly missed.
Date: 6/12/20 8:21 am From: Mike Judd <ebwilderae...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]EAQU request for repost
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Sorry cannot search archives on phone. One good soul provided a link to a trail as a possible route this bird might have taken after ‘disappearing’. Can he or someone kindly repost. Enjoying the yardbirds in Paradise but eager for the mega. Thanks
Date: 6/11/20 5:39 pm From: Derik Bowen <rocketguy66...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] Yellow-Throated Warbler- Sycamore Reservoir, Pima County, AZ
Hello all,
I took a trip to Sycamore Reservoir this afternoon to have a look for
Mark Stevensons Yellow-Throated Warbler reported yesterday morning. Parking at
the parking area next to the closed gate to the Gordon Hirabayashi campground
I took the AZ trail the roughly 2.4 miles down to the reservoir. At the damn I
re-found the bird foraging in the sycamores as Mark reported and occasionally
moving down to the low brush. It was not vocal this afternoon but wasn’t to
shy to my prescience as it kept on mining for bugs and chasing off bushtits.
Keep in mind the trail down to the reservoir has no little to no shade
and is a semi steep hike down. I jogged in and out this afternoon and skipped
birding the trail both ways minimize my time in the sun. It was hot! EBird
checklist with photos is linked below.
Date: 6/11/20 8:01 am From: Jack Daynes <jackdaynes...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]2020-05-20 Road From ABQ and Mount Graham
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I've posted the account of my passage through western New Mexico into Arizona, and included the story of our ride up Mount Graham.
[Snippet] While I stayed with friends Linda and Donna in Thatcher, we all drove up to Mount Graham in her truck on Friday morning. If I’d had more time I would have tried to spend a night on this second highest mountain in Arizona. The road we drove ascends to over 9,000 feet and is the highest road in the state. Linda and Donna wanted to look for wild mushrooms, but found conditions too dry, and I wanted to see what birds might be around. I had limited time to photograph, but was delighted to find Red-Faced Warblers and get a few decent frames captured.
I hope some of you get a kick out of it, -- -- -- Jack -- ================================== <https://shadeTreeImaging.com/ <https://shadetreeimaging.com/>> Wildlife Photography with Emphasis on Birds 858-442-1907 Jack Daynes Based in San Diego County, California ================================== I do not chase birds as much as I chase places. I can enjoy the birds I meet, if I enjoy the place I meet them. ================================== Find me at the intersection of Anywhere and Everywhere in North America. ================================== https://shadetreeimaging.com/category/bird-destinations/san-diego-locations/ ================================== Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/10/20 4:50 pm From: Thomas Beatty JR <beattysguestranch...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]White eared hummers sighted 6/10/2020
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A young male white eared was seen today just before noon at the CAS(controlled access site). A female was seen at the Gazebo feeders mid morning. Other birds sighted in the past week include a hooded warbler and flame colored tanager, you may have to walk up canyon to see these two.
*Beatty's Guest Ranch* *2173 E Miller Canyon Rd. * *Hereford, AZ 85615*
*Edith M. Beatty* *Thomas Beatty JR * *(520)378-2728* Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
On Sunday I hiked up Box Canyon about 3/4 mile from the bridge. I saw 2 Five-striped Sparrows near my turn-around point. I was surprised to find them there, because they were pretty far down canyon from the area along Box Canyon Road where the stakeout is. Today I hiked down Box Canyon from a parking area and gate about 2 miles farther along Box Canyon Road. I hiked about 1.5 miles (maybe a little farther -- some of it was rough going) and found 2 Five-striped Sparrows, which I think are NOT the same ones I saw Sunday. One was in the canyon right below the stakeout area. The other was at least 3/8 mile farther up-canyon. Both birds I saw today were singing. I also found a Bronzed Cowbird today, which I thought was unusual for this habitat. Complete list is on eBird.
Betsy Checchia Tucson, AZ Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/10/20 12:49 pm From: Gavin Bieber <kingbird77...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Quetzal in the chiricahuas
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Hello all,
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there was not sight nor sound of the quetzal between 5am and 12:30pm along Herb Martyr Rd. About a dozen people were on site at 5am, with many more combing the area for the morning. Lots of great birds and some fantastic scenery though.
Date: 6/10/20 12:15 pm From: JOHN HIGGINS <jghiggins...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]SE AZ: Tucson Southlawn Cemetery ROBIN
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Wednesday morning I was surprised to see an AMERICAN ROBIN at the Southlawn Cemetery on Park Ave. near Drexel (SW Tucson.) Even more surprising was the fact that it was attacking a RED-TAILED Hawk who was standing on a sidewalk trying to take a bath under the spray from the lawn irrigators.
I have seen Robins there in the spring, but never the summer. Maybe the bird decided to stay due to the comfortable conditions.
John Higgins, Tucson, AZHome Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/10/20 9:56 am From: Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]Catalina Mts hike to Sycamore Reservoir
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Hi Birders,
I made this pleasant hike early this morning before it got hot. About 2.5 mostly shadeless miles each way. A little bit of smoke from the awful fire at the west end of the Catalinas.
Highlights were Indigo Buntings and Yellow-throated Warbler.
Mark Stevenson Tucson, AZ Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
Date: 6/10/20 1:28 am From: Brendan Bixby Larsen <bblarsen...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] Eared Quetzal - additional info
Hi Birders,
Thank you to Richard Webster for the excellent instructions. Got to the site in Chiricahuas at ~2:30pm. At the time the maybe 10 birders there had not seen the bird. Birders kept showing up throughout the day. Many patrolled up and down the road constantly (saw a few people sneak onto private property during this time unfortunately). At around 4:30pm a large group heard EQ calling (a few saw very briefly and got pics) from the road (approx 0.8 miles from turnoff with FS road 42) for about 30 seconds, then disappeared. At approximately 6:30pm a group of 15-20 birders got excellent views of the bird from the John Hands Campground/Picnic area, which is slightly up the road than originally reported.
A few thoughts - 1- There is no point to enter private property. Besides being disrespectful and illegal, the creek area and trees where it was heard and seen were all observable from the road
2 - It would be extremely difficult to see this bird without hearing it call. The trees are dense by Arizona standards along the creek. I spent 4 hours hiking up and down the road looking and listening for it. Wasn't until I heard it call from the John Hands parking lot that I was able to view it clearly. Call is louder than I expected and was quite frequent from 6:15-7:00pm. For what it's worth, in my *very* short 30 minutes of observation, it was only ever in mid to high pine trees.
3- Not sure if the bird was being flushed up the creek by birders or if just natural foraging/wandering. But it was definitely moving up the stream throughout the day.
Hope the bird sticks around. An incredible and rare bird in a beautiful spot. Worth chasing! -Brendan
Date: 6/10/20 12:06 am From: Jack Daynes <jackdaynes...> Subject: [AZNMbirds] [EXT]My recent stay in Albuquerque
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I posted a little piece with a gallery of images on my blog that some may enjoy (I hope!)
[Snippet] When I arrived at Jerry’s home, we were glad to see each other and looked forward to attending several of the local bird venues, but we learned most of Jerry’s favorites were still shut down due to the pandemic. We found out that the bosque along the Rio Grande near Old Albuquerque and adjacent to the area known as Tingley Beach had remained open to the public.
Stay well. Stay safe, -- -- -- Jack -- ================================== <https://shadeTreeImaging.com/ <https://shadetreeimaging.com/>> Wildlife Photography with Emphasis on Birds 858-442-1907 Jack Daynes Based in San Diego County, California ================================== I do not chase birds as much as I chase places. I can enjoy the birds I meet, if I enjoy the place I meet them. ================================== Find me at the intersection of Anywhere and Everywhere in North America. ================================== https://shadetreeimaging.com/category/bird-destinations/san-diego-locations/ ================================== Home Page: https://list.arizona.edu/sympa/info/aznmbirds To unsubscribe use the Unsubscribe button on that page. To view archive: click "Archive" on that page.
