Date: 7/14/25 10:37 am From: David Suddjian <dsuddjian...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Bushtit predation by cats
Cats can jump. And Bushtits are low sometimes, where there is low cover
like shrubs.
David
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> Can anyone tell me why Bushtits are subject to cat predation?
> I never see them on the ground. They are usually at least 6' up
> and moving fast. Or could it be that Magpies cause some to
> fall out of the nest where they are found by a cat?
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Date: 7/14/25 9:42 am From: <dgulb......> <dgulbenkian...> Subject: [cobirds] Bushtit predation by cats
Can anyone tell me why Bushtits are subject to cat predation? I never see them on the ground. They are usually at least 6' up and moving fast. Or could it be that Magpies cause some to fall out of the nest where they are found by a cat?
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Date: 7/11/25 4:55 am From: Hondochica z <hondochica...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Owl ID help needed
FYI - I received several replies to this post - and nearly everyone
concluded that these were juvenile great horned owls. Since the replies
were not posted to the group - thought I'd follow up for those who were
curious
Cheers
Kelly G
On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 8:31 PM Hondochica z <hondochica...> wrote:
> Here is a link to a second video:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/190150356@N05/shares/1YdFm85s64 >
> thanks for your help
>
> Kelly
> Florissant
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 8:15 PM Hondochica z <hondochica...> wrote:
>
>> I got this video from the person who posted it on our NextDoor - The
>> residence is in Divide (9200 ft). I cannot ID these owls - though now I'm
>> thinking maybe they are juveniles - making it a bit tougher.
>>
>> Here's a link:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/190150356@N05/shares/38390jaD0K >>
>> Let me know what you think (hey that rhymes!;-))
>>
>> Kelly Goocher
>> Florissant
>>
>>
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Date: 7/11/25 4:55 am From: Kelly G <hondochica...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Owl ID help needed
I received several replies - but just to my email - so thought I would
follow up. Everyone who replied said the same thing: juvenile great
horned owls. In case anyone was wondering -
good birding
Kelly
On Sunday, July 6, 2025 at 9:05:22 PM UTC-6 Hondochica z wrote:
> I got this video from the person who posted it on our NextDoor - The
> residence is in Divide (9200 ft). I cannot ID these owls - though now I'm
> thinking maybe they are juveniles - making it a bit tougher.
>
> Here's a link:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/190150356@N05/shares/38390jaD0K >
> Let me know what you think (hey that rhymes!;-))
>
> Kelly Goocher
> Florissant
>
>
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Apologies all! I am fine... i was dealing with a bunch of recycling at the
Lakewood drop-off as the sky was letting loose with thunder and lightning
and rain. As I scrambled around, the phone was typing away in my pocket.
To be bird compliant, I saw a nice Swainson's Hawk at the Colfax and Quail
intersection en route to the recycling center.
Cheers,
Chip Clouse
Lakewood
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Date: 7/10/25 5:20 pm From: Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
Cooper’s Hawks
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 3:58 PM Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...>
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> Several years ago a resident Cooper's Hawk pair in Denver City Park
> fledged four young, and for the next month or so, they mobbed around
> together, chasing fox squirrels (which laughed at them) and otherwise
> practicing for adulthood.
>
> Patrick O'Driscoll
> Denver
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 2:59 PM Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> wrote:
>
>> I just received another picture of a single hawk from this group. Seems
>> to be a consensus that these are Coopers hawks.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> [image: young coopers hawk.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 2:29:54 PM UTC-6 Bill Kosar wrote:
>>
>>> These hawks were in an large Urban park with lots of large mature
>>> cottonwoods in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Houses on one side of the park and
>>> a road and some ponds on the other side.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-6 Peter Burke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
>>>> A: *A Picnic!*
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Peter Burke
>>>> Managing Editor, Colorado Birds
>>>> <edi......>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Todd Deininger <goldene......>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups
>>>>> like this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a
>>>>> bad cell phone pic.
>>>>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >>>>>
>>>>> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
>>>>> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd Deininger
>>>>> Longmont, CO
>>>>>
>>>>> Latest on Flickr <https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAd1LF> >>>>> Follow me on inaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org>at toddwd1
>>>>> youtube.com/@DeiningerProductions
>>>>>
>>>>> "If every man would help his neighbor, no man would be without help"
>>>>> -- Bruce Lee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_......> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is
>>>>>> cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>>>>>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears
>>>>>> to be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Kosar
>>>>>> El Paso county
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Date: 7/10/25 2:58 pm From: Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
Several years ago a resident Cooper's Hawk pair in Denver City Park fledged
four young, and for the next month or so, they mobbed around together,
chasing fox squirrels (which laughed at them) and otherwise practicing for
adulthood.
Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 2:59 PM Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> wrote:
> I just received another picture of a single hawk from this group. Seems to
> be a consensus that these are Coopers hawks.
>
> Bill
>
> [image: young coopers hawk.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 2:29:54 PM UTC-6 Bill Kosar wrote:
>
>> These hawks were in an large Urban park with lots of large mature
>> cottonwoods in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Houses on one side of the park and
>> a road and some ponds on the other side.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-6 Peter Burke wrote:
>>
>>> Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
>>> A: *A Picnic!*
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Peter Burke
>>> Managing Editor, Colorado Birds
>>> <edi......>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Todd Deininger <goldene......>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups
>>>> like this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a
>>>> bad cell phone pic.
>>>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >>>>
>>>> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
>>>> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>>>>
>>>> Todd Deininger
>>>> Longmont, CO
>>>>
>>>> Latest on Flickr <https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAd1LF> >>>> Follow me on inaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org>at toddwd1
>>>> youtube.com/@DeiningerProductions
>>>>
>>>> "If every man would help his neighbor, no man would be without help"
>>>> -- Bruce Lee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is
>>>>> cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>>>>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears
>>>>> to be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Kosar
>>>>> El Paso county
>>>>>
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Date: 7/10/25 1:59 pm From: Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
I just received another picture of a single hawk from this group. Seems to
be a consensus that these are Coopers hawks.
Bill
[image: young coopers hawk.jpg]
On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 2:29:54 PM UTC-6 Bill Kosar wrote:
> These hawks were in an large Urban park with lots of large mature
> cottonwoods in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Houses on one side of the park and
> a road and some ponds on the other side.
>
> Bill
>
> On Thursday, July 10, 2025 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-6 Peter Burke wrote:
>
>> Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
>> A: *A Picnic!*
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peter Burke
>> Managing Editor, Colorado Birds
>> <edi......>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Todd Deininger <goldene......>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups
>>> like this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a
>>> bad cell phone pic.
>>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >>>
>>> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
>>> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>>>
>>> Todd Deininger
>>> Longmont, CO
>>>
>>> Latest on Flickr <https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAd1LF> >>> Follow me on inaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org>at toddwd1
>>> youtube.com/@DeiningerProductions
>>>
>>> "If every man would help his neighbor, no man would be without help"
>>> -- Bruce Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is
>>>> cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>>>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears
>>>> to be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>>>
>>>> Comments?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Kosar
>>>> El Paso county
>>>>
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Date: 7/10/25 1:30 pm From: Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
These hawks were in an large Urban park with lots of large mature
cottonwoods in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Houses on one side of the park and
a road and some ponds on the other side.
Bill
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> Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
> A: *A Picnic!*
>
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>> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups like
>> this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a bad
>> cell phone pic.
>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >>
>> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
>> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>>
>> Todd Deininger
>> Longmont, CO
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_......> wrote:
>>
>>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is
>>> cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to
>>> be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Bill Kosar
>>> El Paso county
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Another SW hawk is the Harris Hawk, which has streaked juveniles and has an eagle-like bill.
Paula Hansley
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CObirders,
Wheeler and Clark’s “A Photographic Guide to North American Raptors” has
pictures of juvenile hawks with streaked underparts on page 180.
Using this guide, I would add juvenile Gray Hawk, juvenile Common Black
Hawk and even juvenile Swainson’s Hawks as possibilities.
One thing that stands out to me are the large “Eagle-like” bills. I vote
for juvenile Gray Hawks! Their range includes southern New Mexico….
Paula Hansley
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> Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
> A: *A Picnic!*
>
> :)
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> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a...>
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>> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups like
>> this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a bad
>> cell phone pic.
>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >>
>> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
>> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>>
>> Todd Deininger
>> Longmont, CO
>>
>> Latest on Flickr <https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAd1LF> >> Follow me on inaturalist <https://www.inaturalist.org>at toddwd1
>> youtube.com/@DeiningerProductions
>>
>> "If every man would help his neighbor, no man would be without help"
>> -- Bruce Lee
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> wrote:
>>
>>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is
>>> cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to
>>> be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Bill Kosar
>>> El Paso county
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Date: 7/10/25 12:07 pm From: Peter Burke <peterburke...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
Q: What do you call a group of birds hanging out on a lawn?
A: *A Picnic!*
:)
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 12:46 PM Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a...>
wrote:
> I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups like
> this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a bad
> cell phone pic.
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464 >
> If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of
> hawks hanging out o the lawn.
>
> Todd Deininger
> Longmont, CO
>
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> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> wrote:
>
>> This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is cobirds
>> but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
>> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to
>> be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Bill Kosar
>> El Paso county
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Date: 7/10/25 11:47 am From: Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
I am leaning towards Cooper’s Hawk. I have seen juvenile’s in groups like
this after fledging. Of course I never have my camera, so here is a bad
cell phone pic.
https://ebird.org/checklist/S71834464
If they were flying it would be a kettle, what do you call a group of hawks
hanging out o the lawn.
"If every man would help his neighbor, no man would be without help"
-- Bruce Lee
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> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to
> be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>
> Comments?
>
> Bill Kosar
> El Paso county
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Date: 7/10/25 11:08 am From: Ajit Antony <aiantony521...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
Hi Bill.
While a juvenile RTHA like the adult has a belly band, it does not have
streaking going up into the chest or into the lower belly. Together with a
prominent white superciliary line, I'm inclined to think in terms of
American Goshawk, which I think would be rare next to someone's house,
unless that house is somewhere in the mountains surrounded by pine woods.
I can't see the tail in any of the except for the second one from the left
and there's a suggestion of a longer tail, and theoretically they could be
juvenile Cooper's Hawk which has a white superciliary which would be
shorter and less prominent. However Cooper's Hawk juveniles have narrow
comma-shaped streaks on the breast and unmarked in the lower abdomen, which
we use at hawk watches as a distinguishing feature from juvenile
Sharp-shinned which has heavier streaks all the way to the lower abdomen,
so that species looks ‘dirty’ in front. These hawks have fairly broad
streaks.
All four hawks have feathered tarsi almost reaching their toes, suggesting
a more northern raptor like American Goshawk (the name was changed within
the past year from Northern Goshawk).
Someone may ask “Why juvenile?” Look at the yellow iris. Most juveniles
have yellow irises, compared to orange or brown in adults.
These are my thought processes. I'll be interested in other opinions I can
learn from.
Ajit Antony
Volunteer hawk watcher at Dinosaur Ridge Hawk Watch, CO
Volunteer doing 4 Winter Raptor Survey Routes in Colorado for HMA
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> but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image:
> young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to
> be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
>
> Comments?
>
> Bill Kosar
> El Paso county
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Date: 7/10/25 10:20 am From: Bill Kosar <bill_kosar...> Subject: [cobirds] Group of young red-tailed hawks
This picture was taken by a friend in New Mexico ( I know this is cobirds but NM is close and we have a lot of red-tailed hawks around here!)[image: young red tails.jpg]. I have never seen anything like it, it appears to be a group of young red-tailed hawks.
Comments?
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Date: 7/9/25 6:02 am From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: [cobirds] Boreas Pass birds, Park County
Birders,
North of Como on my route, I had singing Hermit Thrushes and Veery(!), and
more Fox Sparrows, Green-tailed Towhees, and Black-headed Grosbeaks than
usual. Clark’s Nutcrackers were constantly flying over very high,
calling. I had three calling and drumming Red-naped Sapsuckers widely
spaced along my route.
I heard Red Crossbills flying over that were not type 5. I haven’t had a
chance to listen to recordings.
There were fewer warblers and flycatchers than usual — no Olive-sided for
the first time.
Paula Hansley
Louisville
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Date: 7/9/25 5:40 am From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: [cobirds] Park County
Birders,
I did a USGS Breeding Bird Survey in Park County yesterday that starts at
the top of Boreas Pass and goes 25 miles south towards Tarryall Reservoir.
I was stunned to see how severe the drought is south of highway 285. This
area is a high prairie— most is over 9,000’. I usually see many Horned
Larks and Vesper Sparrows. At many stops, I recorded no birds.
The roads are mostly dirt, so whenever I was standing by my car listening
and watching for birds, I was enveloped in clouds of dust when a car
passed me. I will say that the people are very helpful as at least a dozen
cars stopped to ask if I needed help!
I was also sad to see that the Jefferson Market (known for its fudge) has
closed.
Paula Hansley
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This was my fifth (5th) year running a couple of Breeding Bird Survey (BBS) routes primarily in Rio Blanco County, Colorado. One of these was my Mom's back in the day - Yellowjacket Pass - so has been fun to retrace her steps and add contemporary data to the pool. These routes transect an interesting cross section of classic West Slope habitat, so bird variety is good (92 species total during surveys + 3 additional while scouting). I missed sending out a summary last year (2024), so to refresh readers, here is a brief description of each. The Angora Route is located east of Rangley and begins in short pinyon/juniper/sagebrush stands then gradually climbs to higher elevation with groves of large pinyon/juniper and patches of serviceberry/mountain mahogany brushy hillsides. This route does dip through the White River valley with some wetlands and agriculture fields for variety. The Yellowjacket Pass route starts near Meeker in sagebrush and agriculture dominated bottoms, but then climbs up over Yellowjacket Pass through cottonwood and willow lined creek bottoms (including a good sized pond and marsh) with serviceberry/Gambel's oak hillsides before dropping back down into more sage and ag fields. Habitat conditions were good this year, though did notice a difference between Angora to the west being slightly dryer than expected, but the higher elevation Yellowjacket route to the east seemingly wetter than average. This said, both routes do seem back to normal after years of very dry conditions.
As for the surveys themselves, the results mirrored the apparent dichotomy in spring precipitation. Angora was fairly quiet with total individuals noted (392) being below the long range average (445) and well below my five year average (504). Yellowjacket on the other hand was pretty busy with a record number of individuals (890) being recorded; even netting out a large flock (75) of likely post breeding blackbirds, still well above the long range average (577). Within these gross numbers, a couple of trends were noted. The expansions of GREY CATBIRD, LESSER GOLDFINCH, and SPOTTED TOWHEE is continuing with record or near record numbers of each. The only species which was noticeably in low numbers on both routes was BREWER'S SPARROW, though VESPERs were also well below average at Angora. Summary counts for both routes below.
In terms of "fun" ones, a completely unexpected adult male LARK BUNTING was a BBS first for either route at Yellowjacket. A NORTHERN MOCKINGBIRD was a surprise at Angora, and during scouting, had DUSKY GROUSE at both Angora (first ever for this route) and Yellowjacket, and a COMMON POORWILL on the way back from scouting Angora.
Running BBS routes can be tiring, but always fun with interesting encounters outside the important data collection - found a set of fresh cougar tracks (female and two cubs?!?) and watched a good sized herd (50+) of cow elk in the midst of their calving season in a large hay field with a few fresh newborns. Give David Suddjian a nudge and pick up a route or two for yourself next year, it can be very rewarding. Please let me know separately if you have any questions or would like more information.
Cheers,
Doug
Currently Coeur d'Alene, ID
Yellowjacket Pass & Angora BBS
2025 Summery Results
Angora
Yellowjacket
Species
6/29/2025
6/30/2025
Canada Goose
3
Cinnamon Teal
4
Gadwall
1
Mallard
8
Green-winged Teal
4
Eurasian Collared-Dove
3
Mourning Dove
13
11
Common Nighthawk
1
White-throated Swift
6
Black-chinned Hummingbird
3
Broad-tailed Hummingbird
4
Sora
1
American Coot
6
Sandhill Crane
1
Killdeer
5
Wilson's Snipe
1
Great Blue Heron
2
Turkey Vulture
7
Golden Eagle
2
Northern Harrier
1
Bald Eagle
1
Red-tailed Hawk
1
7
Downy Woodpecker
1
Northern Flicker - "Red-shafted"
10
9
American Kestrel
1
4
Western Wood-Pewee
1
Gray Flycatcher
7
Dusky Flycatcher
2
2
Western Flycatcher
4
Say's Phoebe
1
3
Ash-throated Flycatcher
9
Western Kingbird
4
14
Eastern Kingbird
Gray Vireo
2
Plumbeous Vireo
3
1
Warbling Vireo
6
Pinyon Jay
9
Woodhouse's Scrub-Jay
3
1
Black-billed Magpie
8
66
Clark's Nutcracker
3
American Crow
63
Common Raven
5
11
Mountain Chickadee
3
Juniper Titmouse
6
Northern Rough-winged Swallow
10
Tree Swallow
9
Violet-green Swallow
7
Barn Swallow
6
11
Cliff Swallow
25
22
White-breasted Nuthatch
1
Blue-gray Gnatcatcher
24
1
Rock Wren
8
1
Canyon Wren
1
Northern House Wren
1
10
Bewick's Wren
4
European Starling
8
Gray Catbird
13
Sage Thrasher
6
Northern Mockingbird
1
Mountain Bluebird
27
20
Hermit Thrush
2
American Robin
12
54
House Sparrow
4
House Finch
19
1
Cassin's Finch
1
Pine Siskin
3
Lesser Goldfinch
3
9
American Goldfinch
9
Chipping Sparrow
9
2
Brewer's Sparrow
6
8
Lark Sparrow
24
Lark Bunting
1
Vesper Sparrow
8
37
Song Sparrow
1
19
Green-tailed Towhee
20
45
Spotted Towhee
46
42
Yellow-breasted Chat
1
Yellow-headed Blackbird
1
Western Meadowlark
6
16
Bullock's Oriole
1
7
Red-winged Blackbird
8
137
Brown-headed Cowbird
2
26
Brewer's Blackbird
1
33
Orange-crowned Warbler
1
7
Virginia's Warbler
3
10
MacGillivray's Warbler
7
6
Common Yellowthroat
3
Yellow Warbler
1
31
Black-throated Gray Warbler
7
Western Tanager
1
1
Black-headed Grosbeak
4
Lazuli Bunting
2
Total Species
58
69
Total Individuals
392
890
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Date: 7/7/25 4:11 pm From: 'Andrews Robert' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Green Heron at Greeley, Weld Co.
Hello all,
Today (July 7) there was a Green Heron at the Poudre Learning Center, which is off 83rd Ave. north of Highway 34 Business on the west side of Greeley, Weld Co. The bird was along the east side of the lake immediately north of the center; there is a trail that goes around the lake.
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Date: 7/7/25 11:56 am From: Chase Konkle <chase.konkle...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Yellow-billed Magpie in El Paso County?
I'm from the Dallas Texas area visiting extended family here in Colorado
Springs/El Paso county. I've taken the opportunity to do a bit of birding
to see some birds I don't often get to see. Since I'm somewhat unfamiliar
with the species of birds around here I didn't think much of it when I saw
a Magpie with a yellow bill assuming they were fairly common around here. I
was shocked to learn that a Yellow-billed Magpie sighting is quite rare in
Colorado, but I'm sure that is what I saw. I didn't just get a small
glimpse of it from a far, in fact I noticed it enough to point it out to my
wife. I saw it on 7/1/25 between 1:35-1:45pm near Pulpit Rock Park while
sitting in a dirt parking lot off of N. Nevada Avenue that sits between
Winslow BMW of Colorado Spring, to the North, and Mountain Lion Park and
Mountain Lion Fieldhouse, to the south. I hope you find this interesting.
Chase K.
On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 12:08:08 PM UTC-5 <behn......> wrote:
> Hi all, I haven't posted on Cobirds in eons, but today I saw a second
> report of a Yellow-billed Magpie on eBird in the Springs from I believe the
> same person who reported it a couple of weeks ago. This time again, the
> yellow bill is mentioned. Has anyone in El Paso County tried to verify
> this? I understand that it would be a fairly mega-rarity, but... If not a
> YBMA, what is it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Behnfield
> Lakewood
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On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 8:15 PM Hondochica z <hondochica...> wrote:
> I got this video from the person who posted it on our NextDoor - The
> residence is in Divide (9200 ft). I cannot ID these owls - though now I'm
> thinking maybe they are juveniles - making it a bit tougher.
>
> Here's a link:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/190150356@N05/shares/38390jaD0K >
> Let me know what you think (hey that rhymes!;-))
>
> Kelly Goocher
> Florissant
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Date: 7/6/25 8:05 pm From: Hondochica z <hondochica...> Subject: [cobirds] Owl ID help needed
I got this video from the person who posted it on our NextDoor - The residence is in Divide (9200 ft). I cannot ID these owls - though now I'm thinking maybe they are juveniles - making it a bit tougher.
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I had Red Crossbills (Type 2) at Genesee Park, JeffCo, yesterday, where there is a prodigious developing Ponderosa cone crop. The cones are still maturing and are tightly closed and green, but the crossbills can still get at the immature seeds, I've seen. One male was singing.
David Suddjian Ken Caryl Valley Littleton, CO
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Date: 7/5/25 7:55 pm From: Ted Floyd <tedfloyd73...> Subject: [cobirds] summer doldrums (not) at Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge, Adams Co., July 5
Hey, all.
With Jeff Percell, I spent a decent chunk of today, Sat., July 5, at Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife, Adams Co. As we were driving in along Gateway Rd. through the Prairie Gateway Open Space, just after the commencement of civil dawn, a few *common nighthawks* were still displaying and a family of *great horned owls* were still hunting. Also, the first of the day's many *cassin sparrows* and *brewer sparrows* were kicking into song.
Our first stop on the refuge proper was the Big Bluestem Loop Trail, where we saw and heard an insane 21 *sage thrashers,* including multiple family groups with dependent young. At one point, we had 12 thrashers in view all at once. We even saw two fighting on Jeff's car. Cassin and brewer sparrows galore here, too.
Upper Derby Woods had an early *greater yellowlegs,* an indeterminate warbling-vireo (both eastern and western seem to occur here in the summer), a pair of *orchard orioles, *and at least 11 *Bullock orioles.* We tallied 42 Bullocks for the visit, with that tally surely including, in part, a recent influx of molt-migrants.
The stay-in-your-car part of the wildlife drive gave us the bulk of the 19 *grasshopper sparrows* we detected at The Arsenal today, as well as at least 20* lark buntings. *Also four singing *dickcissels* and a calling *rock wren.*
Rattlesnake Hill had a family of *burrowing owls,* including a youngster wearing a band.
Jeff had to bail around lunchtime for a baseball game, but I carried on toward Havana Ponds, where two *bobolinks* were something of a surprise; however, Hannah Floyd and I had two back in late May of this year in the exact same pasture, so perhaps they bred locally? Havana Ponds also had recently fledged *American avocets,* 13 loafing *redheads,* a *yellow-breasted chat,* and two* lazuli buntings. *And a beautiful six-lined racerunner, *Aspidoscelis sexlineatus*.
Over at Lower Derby, there was a *wood duck.*
And on the drive back to Lafayette, I snuck across the Denver city line to Fairfax Liquors and its marvelous *Mississippi kites.*
95 degrees Fahrenheit (35 degrees Celsius) at the liquor store; 79 bird species for the refuge & environs.
Ted Floyd Lafayette, Boulder Co.
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Date: 7/5/25 6:26 pm From: Josh Bruening <87211jjb...> Subject: [cobirds] Lost equipment in La Plata County
All,
If anyone happens to be checking out the Acorn Woodpeckers in La Plata County in the next few days, I am about 93.8% sure that I dropped my Bose Micro SoundLink speaker near the Woodpecker's stash/cache tree. Within 50 yards of either side of it. I never left the road. It's small, black, and maybe 3.5" x 3.5" with rounded edges. If anyone happens to find it, please reach out. I would love to not have to buy another one...Also, there were 4 Acorn Woodpeckers there all playing on the cache tree.
Bird is the word!
Josh Bruening back in Fort Collins
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Date: 7/5/25 3:11 pm From: Norm Erthal <normanerthal...> Subject: [cobirds] Birding trip to Poland, FInland, and Norway
The trip is pretty full. I do have one space available for a single male who would like to share a room. I could have up to two other spaces depending on roommate needs. Please contact me directly Norman Erthal Arvada CO
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Date: 7/5/25 1:45 pm From: Jared Del Rosso <jared.delrosso...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Magpie Madness in west Centennial
To add to Kevin's observation, just a tiny bit north of where Kevin lives,
but south of where he visited the High Line Canal Trail, is my
neighborhood. Magpies were abundant yesterday, moving in a group of about
the same number that Kevin reports. Really neat and striking scene, even if
-- in my memory -- I know that the local magpies devoured my yard's House
Finch young.
- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO
On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 2:31:23 PM UTC-6 <kevyg......> wrote:
> Hello Fellow Birders,
>
> The magpies must have had a great nesting season because they are
> everywhere in the vicinity of my little townhouse yard in west Centennial,
> near Holly St & Arapahoe Rd. And everywhere else it seems. This morning
> my wife & I walked the Greenwood Gulch Trail northwest from Orchard Road to
> its merger with the Highline Canal trail, and the magpies were everywhere
> along that route as well. I just counted 17 in my postage-stamp-size yard,
> while there were many more on the small front lawns of the townhouses on
> our cul-de-sac. Between them and the 3 food-begging fledgling Red-Tailed
> Hawks who came out of a nearby tree nest a week or so ago it's been pretty
> noisy around here.
>
> Keep Smilin',
> Kevin Corwin
> west Centennial, Arapahoe County
>
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Date: 7/4/25 8:27 pm From: 'Buzz' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Feathers and wind
Dave,
As usual, thank you for the insight.
Buzz
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Buzz Schaumberg
On Wednesday, July 2, 2025, 10:28 AM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...> wrote:
As someone who spends a lot of time in both Fort Collins and Lamar, one of the most striking differences (besides the very artificial construct of human politics) is the prevailing wind direction. At my patch of Grandview Cemetery in Fort Collins the clouds have a default drift of nw to se. When I gaze at the confederate flag flapping angrily over "downtown" Caddoa (just south of Lake Hasty below the John Martin Res dam), it is usually pointing straight out to the north or northeast, indicating wind from the s or sw. It is not surprising that the influence of wind direction on creatures with wings is evident in these two disparate parts of CO. Add the subtle but very real influence of climate change, and southern CO seems to be where the phenomenon of "the South moving north" shows up first and more often. Even flightless woody plants like mesquite are creeping northward into Baca County. Every farmer/ rancher in southeastern CO has an armadillo story. The last comprehensive treatment of CO birds by Andrew’s and Righter tallied 443 species. The CO state list is now in the 520s. The overwhelming majority of those approximately 80 added species have core ranges south of here.
New creatures on our lists are exciting. Some of the reasons for them, maybe not so much. But I applaud the pleas issued repeatedly here and elsewhere regarding the need for, and value of, documentation. Documentation pairs nicely with birding’s best attribute, the JOY OF DISCOVERY. May apps and gps coordinates never obscure that fact.
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On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 11:51:36 AM UTC-6 DAVID A LEATHERMAN wrote:
> Dickcissels have always been regular in the right habitats of southeastern
> CO, especially "hay" (usually alfalfa) fields. I think the several days of
> soaking rain we had in late May over most of the eastern plains was a
> wonderful boost to prairie vegetation, including hay crops. I always
> wonder how Dickcissels fare when the fields are cut, which in good moisture
> years can be four or more times/growing season. They have to be nesting
> during one or more of these cuttings and have to be negatively impacted.
> But they keep coming back, so what appears to be insanity must not be.
> Alfalfa hosts many insects, especially the alfalfa weevil, bees,
> grasshoppers and the caterpillars of the Clouded Sulphur butterfly. As I
> left Lamar yesterday for Fort Collins, KLMR's farm report included
> statistics for "cattle range quality" nationwide. Only 29% was rated
> "poor". Best conditions were in the Midwest. I assume what is good for
> range plants is good for hay. Dickcissels might well be having a banner
> year over the majority of their entire range.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Fort Collins
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Date: 7/4/25 2:26 pm From: Gary Brower <grb4914...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Magpie Madness in west Centennial
Maybe that’s why Merlin had BBMA as my “bird of the day”!
Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County
> On Jul 4, 2025, at 2:31 PM, kevygudguy via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> wrote:
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> Hello Fellow Birders,
>
> The magpies must have had a great nesting season because they are everywhere in the vicinity of my little townhouse yard in west Centennial, near Holly St & Arapahoe Rd. And everywhere else it seems. This morning my wife & I walked the Greenwood Gulch Trail northwest from Orchard Road to its merger with the Highline Canal trail, and the magpies were everywhere along that route as well. I just counted 17 in my postage-stamp-size yard, while there were many more on the small front lawns of the townhouses on our cul-de-sac. Between them and the 3 food-begging fledgling Red-Tailed Hawks who came out of a nearby tree nest a week or so ago it's been pretty noisy around here.
>
> Keep Smilin',
> Kevin Corwin
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Date: 7/4/25 1:31 pm From: kevygudguy via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Magpie Madness in west Centennial
Hello Fellow Birders,
The magpies must have had a great nesting season because they are everywhere in the vicinity of my little townhouse yard in west Centennial, near Holly St & Arapahoe Rd. And everywhere else it seems. This morning my wife & I walked the Greenwood Gulch Trail northwest from Orchard Road to its merger with the Highline Canal trail, and the magpies were everywhere along that route as well. I just counted 17 in my postage-stamp-size yard, while there were many more on the small front lawns of the townhouses on our cul-de-sac. Between them and the 3 food-begging fledgling Red-Tailed Hawks who came out of a nearby tree nest a week or so ago it's been pretty noisy around here.
Keep Smilin',Kevin Corwinwest Centennial, Arapahoe County Sent from my Remington Rand Typewriter via my Rotary Dial Wall Phone
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Date: 7/4/25 10:51 am From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...> Subject: [cobirds] Dickcissels
Dickcissels have always been regular in the right habitats of southeastern CO, especially "hay" (usually alfalfa) fields. I think the several days of soaking rain we had in late May over most of the eastern plains was a wonderful boost to prairie vegetation, including hay crops. I always wonder how Dickcissels fare when the fields are cut, which in good moisture years can be four or more times/growing season. They have to be nesting during one or more of these cuttings and have to be negatively impacted. But they keep coming back, so what appears to be insanity must not be. Alfalfa hosts many insects, especially the alfalfa weevil, bees, grasshoppers and the caterpillars of the Clouded Sulphur butterfly. As I left Lamar yesterday for Fort Collins, KLMR's farm report included statistics for "cattle range quality" nationwide. Only 29% was rated "poor". Best conditions were in the Midwest. I assume what is good for range plants is good for hay. Dickcissels might well be having a banner year over the majority of their entire range.
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Date: 7/3/25 5:44 pm From: Charlie Chase <charlesachase3...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Irruption of Dickcissels in San Luis Valley
Dickcissels have been found along the Arkansas at least south of Las Animas
during my BBS period since I returned to Colorado in 2005. In the last 3-4
years they have expanded to numerous locations along the BBS route N and S
of Pritchett and along the Gilpin route in a variety of alfalfa's fields
and scrub fields 7-8 miles south of Los Animas. Definitely higher numbers
this year but in about the same places I have been finding them the last
few years.
Charlie Chase
Denver, CO
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 2:31 PM Eric DeFonso <bay.wren...> wrote:
> FWIW, I found Dickcissels to be amusingly ubiquitous on my BCR field
> surveys this year all over the great plains from Texas to Nebraska, even in
> habitats that you might not ordinarily think of as being expected for them.
> Of course this is just anecdotal, but given that midwestern abundance it
> seems unsurprising that there may have been an "overflow" of birds well
> into Colorado.
>
> -------
> Eric DeFonso
> Boulder County, CO
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 9:37 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> wrote:
>
>> I have seen more Dickcissels this year than any other, in El Paso and
>> Lincoln Counties. Typically I might encounter one or two but this year I
>> have seen double-digits and some in locations I haven't found them before.
>>
>> Diana Beatty
>> El Paso County
>>
>> ******
>>
>> “I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,”
>> said *Gandalf*, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is
>> not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time
>> that is given us.”
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:29 AM John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of
>>> Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of
>>> the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there
>>> and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had
>>> one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like
>>> this contrast with most years where we have none.
>>>
>>> Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
>>>
>>> John Rawinski
>>> Monte Vista, CO
>>>
>>>
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Date: 7/3/25 1:31 pm From: Eric DeFonso <bay.wren...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Irruption of Dickcissels in San Luis Valley
FWIW, I found Dickcissels to be amusingly ubiquitous on my BCR field
surveys this year all over the great plains from Texas to Nebraska, even in
habitats that you might not ordinarily think of as being expected for them.
Of course this is just anecdotal, but given that midwestern abundance it
seems unsurprising that there may have been an "overflow" of birds well
into Colorado.
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Boulder County, CO
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 9:37 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> wrote:
> I have seen more Dickcissels this year than any other, in El Paso and
> Lincoln Counties. Typically I might encounter one or two but this year I
> have seen double-digits and some in locations I haven't found them before.
>
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
>
> ******
>
> “I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,” said
> *Gandalf*, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for
> them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
> given us.”
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:29 AM John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...>
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of
>> Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of
>> the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there
>> and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had
>> one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like
>> this contrast with most years where we have none.
>>
>> Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
>>
>> John Rawinski
>> Monte Vista, CO
>>
>>
>>
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I counted 21 individuals on my BBS route on May 30 down in SE Colorado.
Kristin Tallis
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 9:49 AM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
> So many Dickcissels in Adams County this year!!! I love it!
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:37 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> wrote:
>
>> I have seen more Dickcissels this year than any other, in El Paso and
>> Lincoln Counties. Typically I might encounter one or two but this year I
>> have seen double-digits and some in locations I haven't found them before.
>>
>> Diana Beatty
>> El Paso County
>>
>> ******
>>
>> “I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,”
>> said *Gandalf*, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is
>> not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time
>> that is given us.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:29 AM John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of
>>> Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of
>>> the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there
>>> and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had
>>> one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like
>>> this contrast with most years where we have none.
>>>
>>> Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
>>>
>>> John Rawinski
>>> Monte Vista, CO
>>>
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Date: 7/3/25 8:49 am From: Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Irruption of Dickcissels
So many Dickcissels in Adams County this year!!! I love it!
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:37 AM Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> wrote:
> I have seen more Dickcissels this year than any other, in El Paso and
> Lincoln Counties. Typically I might encounter one or two but this year I
> have seen double-digits and some in locations I haven't found them before.
>
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
>
> ******
>
> “I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo. “So do I,” said
> *Gandalf*, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for
> them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is
> given us.”
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:29 AM John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...>
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of
>> Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of
>> the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there
>> and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had
>> one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like
>> this contrast with most years where we have none.
>>
>> Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
>>
>> John Rawinski
>> Monte Vista, CO
>>
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Date: 7/3/25 8:38 am From: Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Irruption of Dickcissels in San Luis Valley
I have seen more Dickcissels this year than any other, in El Paso and
Lincoln Counties. Typically I might encounter one or two but this year I
have seen double-digits and some in locations I haven't found them before.
Diana Beatty
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On Thu, Jul 3, 2025, 9:29 AM John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...> wrote:
> Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of
> Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of
> the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there
> and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had
> one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like
> this contrast with most years where we have none.
>
> Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
>
> John Rawinski
> Monte Vista, CO
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Date: 7/3/25 8:29 am From: John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...> Subject: [cobirds] Irruption of Dickcissels in San Luis Valley
Yesterday while riding bike, I heard the unmistakable raspy chatter of Dickcissel near Monte Vista. Went back and found up to three just south of the MVCoop on the 2E. Today went out for some pics and there were two there and up to three on Swede Lane just north of Monte Vista. A friend also had one near Smith Reservoir, so it appears to be fairly widespread. Years like this contrast with most years where we have none.
Are you seeing many in other parts of the State??
John Rawinski Monte Vista, CO
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Now in 2025, there are least five long time Colorado birders that have
seen/heard over 490 species of birds in Colorado! I thought reaching 450
and 475 species were big milestones, though maybe 500 could now be reached
by some soon.
Brandon Percival
Pueblo West, CO
On Wed, Jul 2, 2025, 2:45 PM Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
> ...and the acceleration, of the change *and* the documentation!--Seems
> like just yesterday when folks were speculating as to what species would be
> #500...
> Thanks, Dave.
>
> Marty Wolf
> Nw CO Spgs
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...and the acceleration, of the change *and* the documentation!--Seems like
just yesterday when folks were speculating as to what species would be
#500...
Thanks, Dave.
Marty Wolf
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> As someone who spends a lot of time in both Fort Collins and Lamar, one of
> the most striking differences (besides the very artificial construct of
> human politics) is the prevailing wind direction. At my patch of Grandview
> Cemetery in Fort Collins the clouds have a default drift of nw to se. When
> I gaze at the confederate flag flapping angrily over "downtown" Caddoa
> (just south of Lake Hasty below the John Martin Res dam), it is usually
> pointing straight out to the north or northeast, indicating wind from the s
> or sw. It is not surprising that the influence of wind direction on
> creatures with wings is evident in these two disparate parts of CO. Add
> the subtle but very real influence of climate change, and southern CO seems
> to be where the phenomenon of "the South moving north" shows up first and
> more often. Even flightless woody plants like mesquite are creeping
> northward into Baca County. Every farmer/ rancher in southeastern CO has
> an armadillo story. The last comprehensive treatment of CO birds by
> Andrew’s and Righter tallied 443 species. The CO state list is now in the
> 520s. The overwhelming majority of those approximately 80 added species
> have core ranges south of here.
>
> New creatures on our lists are exciting. Some of the reasons for them,
> maybe not so much. But I applaud the pleas issued repeatedly here and
> elsewhere regarding the need for, and value of, documentation.
> Documentation pairs nicely with birding’s best attribute, the JOY OF
> DISCOVERY. May apps and gps coordinates never obscure that fact.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Prowimer County
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Date: 7/2/25 12:14 pm From: Hondochica z <hondochica...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Feathers and wind
Nice . .
On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:28 AM DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...>
wrote:
> As someone who spends a lot of time in both Fort Collins and Lamar, one of
> the most striking differences (besides the very artificial construct of
> human politics) is the prevailing wind direction. At my patch of Grandview
> Cemetery in Fort Collins the clouds have a default drift of nw to se. When
> I gaze at the confederate flag flapping angrily over "downtown" Caddoa
> (just south of Lake Hasty below the John Martin Res dam), it is usually
> pointing straight out to the north or northeast, indicating wind from the s
> or sw. It is not surprising that the influence of wind direction on
> creatures with wings is evident in these two disparate parts of CO. Add
> the subtle but very real influence of climate change, and southern CO seems
> to be where the phenomenon of "the South moving north" shows up first and
> more often. Even flightless woody plants like mesquite are creeping
> northward into Baca County. Every farmer/ rancher in southeastern CO has
> an armadillo story. The last comprehensive treatment of CO birds by
> Andrew’s and Righter tallied 443 species. The CO state list is now in the
> 520s. The overwhelming majority of those approximately 80 added species
> have core ranges south of here.
>
> New creatures on our lists are exciting. Some of the reasons for them,
> maybe not so much. But I applaud the pleas issued repeatedly here and
> elsewhere regarding the need for, and value of, documentation.
> Documentation pairs nicely with birding’s best attribute, the JOY OF
> DISCOVERY. May apps and gps coordinates never obscure that fact.
>
> Dave Leatherman
> Prowimer County
>
>
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Date: 7/2/25 9:28 am From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...> Subject: [cobirds] Feathers and wind
As someone who spends a lot of time in both Fort Collins and Lamar, one of the most striking differences (besides the very artificial construct of human politics) is the prevailing wind direction. At my patch of Grandview Cemetery in Fort Collins the clouds have a default drift of nw to se. When I gaze at the confederate flag flapping angrily over "downtown" Caddoa (just south of Lake Hasty below the John Martin Res dam), it is usually pointing straight out to the north or northeast, indicating wind from the s or sw. It is not surprising that the influence of wind direction on creatures with wings is evident in these two disparate parts of CO. Add the subtle but very real influence of climate change, and southern CO seems to be where the phenomenon of "the South moving north" shows up first and more often. Even flightless woody plants like mesquite are creeping northward into Baca County. Every farmer/ rancher in southeastern CO has an armadillo story. The last comprehensive treatment of CO birds by Andrew’s and Righter tallied 443 species. The CO state list is now in the 520s. The overwhelming majority of those approximately 80 added species have core ranges south of here.
New creatures on our lists are exciting. Some of the reasons for them, maybe not so much. But I applaud the pleas issued repeatedly here and elsewhere regarding the need for, and value of, documentation. Documentation pairs nicely with birding’s best attribute, the JOY OF DISCOVERY. May apps and gps coordinates never obscure that fact.
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Date: 7/2/25 8:04 am From: Peter Burke <peterburke...> Subject: [cobirds] Start Planning for the 2025 Colorado Birding Challenge!
The 2025 Colorado Birding Challenge <https://cobirds.org/cobc/> will take
place on September 6! Registration for teams will open in July but it’s not
too soon to start planning! Here are a few things you can do now:
*Form your team*. A team must have at least two members per the ABA Big Day
rules. While there is no limit to team size, remember that all team members
must see/hear 95% of all species on your official list, so the more people
you add, the more, um, challenging that becomes.
*Select the category you want to compete in*. The main competitive category
is simply called The Challenge, but we also have a separate category for
teams made up of individuals 25 and under, and a green category for those
who want to travel without the aid of motorized vehicles. There is a fourth
option that is not competitive, Bird Your Own Way, that lets you
participate however you want!
*Decide which county you want to bird in*. There are 64 counties in
Colorado to choose from. The COBC can be an opportunity to explore
someplace new!
Choose your team’s name! This is part of the fun!
New for 2025, Front Range Birding and Optics
<https://frontrangebirding.com/> has agreed to sponsor the COBC. They will
provide prizes to the winning teams in each of the three competitive
categories, so there’s even more reason to start planning for this year’s
Colorado Birding Challenge!
Good birding,
Peter Burke
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Date: 7/2/25 6:19 am From: Richard Pautsch <rjpautsch...> Subject: [cobirds] Fwd: Screech owl, Boulder
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a screech owl was calling when I took out the garbage at 5:30 this morning
near 4th and Arapahoe. saw it hunting last week on my game camera
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Date: 7/2/25 5:08 am From: Chris H <chobbs.f1...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
A Tropical Parula is nesting in Wichita, KS. Nothing is 'normal'.
Chris Hobbs
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Hi all,
In 2006, I drove all the way to Albuquerque to see a Yellow Grosbeak. That bird, I believe, was NOT accepted by the New Mexico Bird Records Committee. It had three strikes against it:
* It had a bill deformity, which can be common in captive birds;
* It seemed unnaturally tame;
* It showed up in winter. (Summer is the expected season for wandering Yellow Grosbeaks.)
The current crop of vagrants doesn't suffer from any of those suspicious traits.
Furthermore, this species has established a pattern of vagrancy north of Mexico this year. The Estes Park bird is the fourth this year (!!!!) for Colorado, after birds in Arapahoe, Hinsdale, and Gilpin counties. Arkansas got its first Yellow Grosbeak a few months back. Something is probably happening to drive the species out of its normal home range in Mexico.
To sum up: all signs point to the Colorado grosbeaks being wild birds.
Nathan Pieplow
Boulder
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:09 AM John Shenot <johnshenot...><mailto:<johnshenot...>> wrote:
To be clear, speaking as the original poster on this thread, I never expressed a belief (nor do I hold the belief) that the bird in Estes Park is an escaped cage bird. I consider it far more likely that the bird in Estes Park, and all the other Yellow Grosbeaks seen in Colorado, are/were in fact wild birds. I wouldn't have been excited to observe the Estes Park bird, otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have chased it.
I really only intended to express a possibility that had not been raised previously and was hoping to learn from the knowledgeable folks on COBIRDS how one might determine if an out-of-range species that is occasionally captured and traded (illegally) as a cage bird is in fact a wild bird.
For Scott R's benefit, I want to clarify that I never asked this question about Yellow Grosbeaks seen elsewhere in Colorado because I didn't bother to chase any of those other ones. It's that simple. Seeing the bird in Estes Park provoked my curiosity. If I had seen any of the others I would have had the same curiosity and posed the same question. Maybe, in addition, I was influenced by a birder's report last week of a Rose-ringed Parakeet in Fort Collins, which had me thinking about escaped cage birds.
John Shenot
Fort Collins
On Tuesday, July 1, 2025 at 8:29:20 AM UTC-6 Ira Sanders wrote:
Scott, I agree.
This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in the middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a good point.
Ira Sanders
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmy......> wrote:
It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes thought of as an escaped bird.
How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther south in Colorado?
Scott Rashid
Estes park
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2......> wrote:
I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the Yellow Grosbeak.
I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged birds.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <David.Ste......> wrote:
Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In Rare Birds of North America by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001), extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They then give several examples where various state records committees have not accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this: "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully documented."
David Steingraeber
Fort Collins
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To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johns......> wrote:
I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it unreasonable for me to wonder?
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. I'm just a curious guy...
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Date: 7/2/25 5:08 am From: tom none <jtcurt325...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Abridged summary of - 11 updates in 5 topics
Re: yellow grosbeak status. Birds have wings. This may sound flippant, but
there are numerous accepted reports for birds that are far out of range. I
found a lesser sand-plover in Florida and a curlew sandpiper in Missouri,
both of which were some thousands of miles from their home range. In fact,
the subspecies of the sandplover was that which breeds in
northeastern Asia, it had to cross into Alaska (probably) and then move
diagonally across Canada and Continental US. One might argue that these are
migratory species, so being out of range is not too surprising. However,
when researching a southern lapwing I found in Florida, I came across a
paper that found that, in families that have long-distance migratory
species, their non-migratory counter-parts retained the physiological
capability for migration. So just because a species is non-migratory, does
not mean it is incapable of long-distance movements. A second more recent
paper found that, when examining genes that are thought to be responsible
for migration, migratory non-migratory species were indistinguishable.
Further, a phylogenetic examination of the Cardinaliidae reveals multiple
end groups that are migratory. This suggests that either a migratory life
strategy evolved in multiple branches, or was present in the last common
ancestor. If the latter is true, then many species in the cardinal family
may have the tools for long-distance movement, they just don't need to use
them. Finally, someone mentioned that yellow grosbeaks are kept as cage
birds in Mexico. I'm not sure that this is pertinent, since captive or, it
still had to get from Mexico to Estes Park.
Hope this is of interest,
Tom Curtis
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Date: 7/1/25 5:26 pm From: 'Andrews Robert' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Green Heron at Cherry Creek State Park, Arapahoe Co.
Hello all,
This morning I saw the Green Heron at Cherry Creek State Park, Arapahoe County. I was walking west along the old Orchard Road and I saw the bird in flight. It seemed to come from the Windmill Creek area, perhaps at or near the pond, although it might have come from farther east. It flew west and descended down into the vegetation along Cottonwood Creek. I walked down to Cottonwood Creek, but I was unable to relocate the bird, and I did not see it in flight again.
Bob Andrews
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Currently in Centennial, Arapahoe Co.
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Date: 7/1/25 5:22 pm From: Marty <wolfmartinc...> Subject: [cobirds] South Fork BBS summary, Rio Grande
Greetings, CoBirders,
This past Fri (6/27) I completed the second of my 2 breeding bird surveys, which is in western Rio Grande County, south out of the town of South Fork (trending south & then eastward), going up to 11,600'.
Noticeable over most of the outer edges of the San Luis Valley (except for irrigated fields of course) en route to my BBS location--and apparently also over most of the Sangre de Cristo range and the San Juans--the region is quite dry now, after well below-average winter snows and far less of the nice spring rains the Front Range and much of the plains (except the northeast) have received.
Dirt roads in the Rio Grande Natl Forest where this BBS route is located were therefore drier & dustier than usual, and bird & bug numbers were significantly below average (despite there being plenty of beautiful wildflowers blooming, especially at higher elevations). Also, as noted in previous years' summaries, above 10,000' on this route the subalpine spruce forest has been significantly decimated by spruce beetle infestation, but the damage peaked 2-3 years ago.
This season I had 43 species on count day (with 6 additional sp. observed the previous day of scouting), which is average for this route--at least for the 13 years of my tenure. However, the count of total individual birds was the lowest it's been in my 13 years, at 307 (my average prior to this year being 404)-- in fact, this year's count of individuals is the lowest ever for this BBS, which started in 1994.
While I had greater-than-average numbers of 3 species (Green-winged Teal, Canada Jay, & Lincoln Sparrow), I had below-average numbers of 20 species! That includes zero Hairy Woodpecker, Olive-sided Flycatcher, and Cordilleran/Western Flycatcher; continued declines below-avg over the past several years of 5 other species (Broad-tailed Hummingbird [4], American Three-toed Woodpecker [1], Western Wood-pewee [4], MacGillivray Warbler [1], and Audubon Warbler [12]); lowest-ever numbers of Hermit Thrush (12) and Gray-headed Junco (4); and below-avg numbers of Com. Nighthawk, Warbling Vireo, Clark Nutcracker, Am. Crow, Mountain Chickadee, House Wren, Pine Siskin, White-crowned Sparrow, Green-tailed Towhee, and Orange-crowned Warbler). The remaining 20 or so species were at roughly average numbers, fortunately.
So you never know from year to year what all is impacting bird numbers or the time-frame of the impact, but clearly at least several factors may have been coming together to affect them now in this location-- widespread loss of living forest, repeated moderate-to-severe drought, with subsequent (temporary?) decrease in food availability... and who knows what for the migrants in their wintering ranges and journeys in-between. --& all exacerbated by ongoing climate changes.
Good birding, good actions for what sustains us all.
Marty Wolf Nw CO Spgs
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Date: 7/1/25 10:51 am From: 'Steingraeber,David' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Like John, I wasn't opining that the Estes Park bird was likely an escapee. (On Sat., I thoroughly enjoyed spending an extended time observing it.) I was merely pointing out that Yellow Grosbeak is known to be a caged "pet" bird in Mexico, where the relevant laws are different. Although Mexico is a signatory to the Migratory Bird Treaty, it complies with the Treaty with a different set of its own federal regulations. The trade in pet birds in Mexico is supposedly "controlled" by those Mexican regulations; how effectively it is controlled is open to question. For an overview of the pet bird trade in Mexico, here's a link to an open access article entitled "The use of birds as pets in Mexico" that was published in 2017 in the Journal of Ethnobiology and Ethnomedicine: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5470262/
David Steingraeber
fort Collins
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From: <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf of Nathan Pieplow <npieplow...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 10:13 AM
To: Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
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Hi all,
In 2006, I drove all the way to Albuquerque to see a Yellow Grosbeak. That bird, I believe, was NOT accepted by the New Mexico Bird Records Committee. It had three strikes against it:
* It had a bill deformity, which can be common in captive birds;
* It seemed unnaturally tame;
* It showed up in winter. (Summer is the expected season for wandering Yellow Grosbeaks.)
The current crop of vagrants doesn't suffer from any of those suspicious traits.
Furthermore, this species has established a pattern of vagrancy north of Mexico this year. The Estes Park bird is the fourth this year (!!!!) for Colorado, after birds in Arapahoe, Hinsdale, and Gilpin counties. Arkansas got its first Yellow Grosbeak a few months back. Something is probably happening to drive the species out of its normal home range in Mexico.
To sum up: all signs point to the Colorado grosbeaks being wild birds.
Nathan Pieplow
Boulder
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:09 AM John Shenot <johnshenot...><mailto:<johnshenot...>> wrote:
To be clear, speaking as the original poster on this thread, I never expressed a belief (nor do I hold the belief) that the bird in Estes Park is an escaped cage bird. I consider it far more likely that the bird in Estes Park, and all the other Yellow Grosbeaks seen in Colorado, are/were in fact wild birds. I wouldn't have been excited to observe the Estes Park bird, otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have chased it.
I really only intended to express a possibility that had not been raised previously and was hoping to learn from the knowledgeable folks on COBIRDS how one might determine if an out-of-range species that is occasionally captured and traded (illegally) as a cage bird is in fact a wild bird.
For Scott R's benefit, I want to clarify that I never asked this question about Yellow Grosbeaks seen elsewhere in Colorado because I didn't bother to chase any of those other ones. It's that simple. Seeing the bird in Estes Park provoked my curiosity. If I had seen any of the others I would have had the same curiosity and posed the same question. Maybe, in addition, I was influenced by a birder's report last week of a Rose-ringed Parakeet in Fort Collins, which had me thinking about escaped cage birds.
John Shenot
Fort Collins
On Tuesday, July 1, 2025 at 8:29:20 AM UTC-6 Ira Sanders wrote:
Scott, I agree.
This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in the middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a good point.
Ira Sanders
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmy......> wrote:
It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes thought of as an escaped bird.
How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther south in Colorado?
Scott Rashid
Estes park
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2......> wrote:
I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the Yellow Grosbeak.
I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged birds.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <David.Ste......> wrote:
Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In Rare Birds of North America by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001), extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They then give several examples where various state records committees have not accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this: "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully documented."
David Steingraeber
Fort Collins
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From: <cob......> <cob......> on behalf of Susan Rosine <u5b2......>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
To: Colorado Birds <cob......>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender **
To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johns......> wrote:
I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it unreasonable for me to wonder?
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. I'm just a curious guy...
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From: <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf of Nathan Pieplow <npieplow...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 10:13 AM
To: Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender **
Hi all,
In 2006, I drove all the way to Albuquerque to see a Yellow Grosbeak. That bird, I believe, was NOT accepted by the New Mexico Bird Records Committee. It had three strikes against it:
* It had a bill deformity, which can be common in captive birds;
* It seemed unnaturally tame;
* It showed up in winter. (Summer is the expected season for wandering Yellow Grosbeaks.)
The current crop of vagrants doesn't suffer from any of those suspicious traits.
Furthermore, this species has established a pattern of vagrancy north of Mexico this year. The Estes Park bird is the fourth this year (!!!!) for Colorado, after birds in Arapahoe, Hinsdale, and Gilpin counties. Arkansas got its first Yellow Grosbeak a few months back. Something is probably happening to drive the species out of its normal home range in Mexico.
To sum up: all signs point to the Colorado grosbeaks being wild birds.
Nathan Pieplow
Boulder
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:09 AM John Shenot <johnshenot...><mailto:<johnshenot...>> wrote:
To be clear, speaking as the original poster on this thread, I never expressed a belief (nor do I hold the belief) that the bird in Estes Park is an escaped cage bird. I consider it far more likely that the bird in Estes Park, and all the other Yellow Grosbeaks seen in Colorado, are/were in fact wild birds. I wouldn't have been excited to observe the Estes Park bird, otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have chased it.
I really only intended to express a possibility that had not been raised previously and was hoping to learn from the knowledgeable folks on COBIRDS how one might determine if an out-of-range species that is occasionally captured and traded (illegally) as a cage bird is in fact a wild bird.
For Scott R's benefit, I want to clarify that I never asked this question about Yellow Grosbeaks seen elsewhere in Colorado because I didn't bother to chase any of those other ones. It's that simple. Seeing the bird in Estes Park provoked my curiosity. If I had seen any of the others I would have had the same curiosity and posed the same question. Maybe, in addition, I was influenced by a birder's report last week of a Rose-ringed Parakeet in Fort Collins, which had me thinking about escaped cage birds.
John Shenot
Fort Collins
On Tuesday, July 1, 2025 at 8:29:20 AM UTC-6 Ira Sanders wrote:
Scott, I agree.
This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in the middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a good point.
Ira Sanders
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmy......> wrote:
It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes thought of as an escaped bird.
How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther south in Colorado?
Scott Rashid
Estes park
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2......> wrote:
I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the Yellow Grosbeak.
I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged birds.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <David.Ste......> wrote:
Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In Rare Birds of North America by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001), extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They then give several examples where various state records committees have not accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this: "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully documented."
David Steingraeber
Fort Collins
________________________________
From: <cob......> <cob......> on behalf of Susan Rosine <u5b2......>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
To: Colorado Birds <cob......>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender **
To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johns......> wrote:
I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it unreasonable for me to wonder?
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. I'm just a curious guy...
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Date: 7/1/25 10:19 am From: 'John D' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Tropical Kingbird
Believe refound on wires around shooting range15 minutes ago.Will post photos soon
John Drummond Colorado Springs
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Date: 7/1/25 10:14 am From: Nathan Pieplow <npieplow...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Hi all,
In 2006, I drove all the way to Albuquerque to see a Yellow Grosbeak. That
bird, I believe, was NOT accepted by the New Mexico Bird Records Committee.
It had three strikes against it:
- It had a bill deformity, which can be common in captive birds;
- It seemed unnaturally tame;
- It showed up in winter. (Summer is the expected season for wandering
Yellow Grosbeaks.)
The current crop of vagrants doesn't suffer from any of those suspicious
traits.
Furthermore, this species has established a pattern of vagrancy north of
Mexico this year. The Estes Park bird is the fourth this year (!!!!) for
Colorado, after birds in Arapahoe, Hinsdale, and Gilpin counties. Arkansas
got its first Yellow Grosbeak a few months back. Something is probably
happening to drive the species out of its normal home range in Mexico.
To sum up: all signs point to the Colorado grosbeaks being wild birds.
Nathan Pieplow
Boulder
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:09 AM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
> To be clear, speaking as the original poster on this thread, I never
> expressed a belief (nor do I hold the belief) that the bird in Estes Park
> *is* an escaped cage bird. I consider it far more likely that the bird in
> Estes Park, and all the other Yellow Grosbeaks seen in Colorado, are/were
> in fact wild birds. I wouldn't have been excited to observe the Estes Park
> bird, otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have chased it.
>
> I really only intended to express a possibility that had not been raised
> previously and was hoping to learn from the knowledgeable folks on COBIRDS
> how one might determine if an out-of-range species that is occasionally
> captured and traded (illegally) as a cage bird is in fact a wild bird.
>
> For Scott R's benefit, I want to clarify that I never asked this question
> about Yellow Grosbeaks seen elsewhere in Colorado because I didn't bother
> to chase any of those other ones. It's that simple. Seeing the bird in
> Estes Park provoked my curiosity. If I had seen any of the others I would
> have had the same curiosity and posed the same question. Maybe, in
> addition, I was influenced by a birder's report last week of a Rose-ringed
> Parakeet in Fort Collins, which had me thinking about escaped cage birds.
>
> John Shenot
> Fort Collins
>
> On Tuesday, July 1, 2025 at 8:29:20 AM UTC-6 Ira Sanders wrote:
>
>> Scott, I agree.
>> This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in
>> the middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked
>> Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think
>> of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they
>> weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of
>> this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a
>> good point.
>> Ira Sanders
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmy......> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it
>>> becomes thought of as an escaped bird.
>>>
>>> How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther
>>> south in Colorado?
>>>
>>> Scott Rashid
>>> Estes park
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds
>>>> are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
>>>> Yellow Grosbeak.
>>>> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously
>>>> caged birds.
>>>>
>>>> Susan Rosine
>>>> Brighton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
>>>> <David.Ste......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>>>>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>>>>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>>>>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>>>>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>>>>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>>>>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>>>>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>>>>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>>>>> documented."
>>>>>
>>>>> David Steingraeber
>>>>> Fort Collins
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* <cob......> <cob......> on behalf
>>>>> of Susan Rosine <u5b2......>
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
>>>>> *To:* Colorado Birds <cob......>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
>>>>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>>>>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan Rosine
>>>>> Brighton
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johns......> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes
>>>>> Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>>>>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>>>>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>>>>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>>>>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that
>>>>> way. I'm just a curious guy...
>>>>>
>>>>> John Shenot
>>>>> Fort Collins
>>>>>
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Date: 7/1/25 9:09 am From: John Shenot <johnshenot...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
To be clear, speaking as the original poster on this thread, I never
expressed a belief (nor do I hold the belief) that the bird in Estes Park
*is* an escaped cage bird. I consider it far more likely that the bird in
Estes Park, and all the other Yellow Grosbeaks seen in Colorado, are/were
in fact wild birds. I wouldn't have been excited to observe the Estes Park
bird, otherwise, and I certainly wouldn't have chased it.
I really only intended to express a possibility that had not been raised
previously and was hoping to learn from the knowledgeable folks on COBIRDS
how one might determine if an out-of-range species that is occasionally
captured and traded (illegally) as a cage bird is in fact a wild bird.
For Scott R's benefit, I want to clarify that I never asked this question
about Yellow Grosbeaks seen elsewhere in Colorado because I didn't bother
to chase any of those other ones. It's that simple. Seeing the bird in
Estes Park provoked my curiosity. If I had seen any of the others I would
have had the same curiosity and posed the same question. Maybe, in
addition, I was influenced by a birder's report last week of a Rose-ringed
Parakeet in Fort Collins, which had me thinking about escaped cage birds.
John Shenot
Fort Collins
On Tuesday, July 1, 2025 at 8:29:20 AM UTC-6 Ira Sanders wrote:
> Scott, I agree.
> This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in
> the middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked
> Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think
> of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they
> weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of
> this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a
> good point.
> Ira Sanders
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmy......> wrote:
>
>> It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
>> thought of as an escaped bird.
>>
>> How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther
>> south in Colorado?
>>
>> Scott Rashid
>> Estes park
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2......> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds
>>> are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
>>> Yellow Grosbeak.
>>> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously
>>> caged birds.
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
>>> <David.Ste......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>>>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>>>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>>>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>>>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>>>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>>>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>>>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>>>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>>>> documented."
>>>>
>>>> David Steingraeber
>>>> Fort Collins
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* <cob......> <cob......> on behalf of
>>>> Susan Rosine <u5b2......>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
>>>> *To:* Colorado Birds <cob......>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
>>>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>>>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Susan Rosine
>>>> Brighton
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johns......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes
>>>> Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>>>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>>>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>>>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>>>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>>>
>>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that
>>>> way. I'm just a curious guy...
>>>>
>>>> John Shenot
>>>> Fort Collins
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Date: 7/1/25 9:08 am From: David Suddjian <dsuddjian...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
I think the possibility of an escapee is considered for all reports of
Yellow Grosbeak out of range, at least at some level. Fwiw, there is
another report from the mountains (even more so) in CO from this June 9 at
Lake City in Lake County (per eBird).
https://ebird.org/checklist/S248687720.
David Suddjian
Littleton, CO
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> wrote:
> It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
> thought of as an escaped bird.
>
> How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther
> south in Colorado?
>
> Scott Rashid
> Estes park
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
>
>> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are
>> illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
>> Yellow Grosbeak.
>> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged
>> birds.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
>> <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>>> documented."
>>>
>>> David Steingraeber
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf
>>> of Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
>>> *To:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>>>
>>>
>>> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
>>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes
>>> Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>>
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that
>>> way. I'm just a curious guy...
>>>
>>> John Shenot
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
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Date: 7/1/25 7:29 am From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Scott, I agree.
This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in the
middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked
Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think
of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they
weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of
this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a
good point.
Ira Sanders
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> wrote:
> It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
> thought of as an escaped bird.
>
> How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther
> south in Colorado?
>
> Scott Rashid
> Estes park
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
>
>> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are
>> illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
>> Yellow Grosbeak.
>> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged
>> birds.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
>> <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>>> documented."
>>>
>>> David Steingraeber
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf
>>> of Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
>>> *To:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>>>
>>>
>>> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
>>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes
>>> Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>>
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that
>>> way. I'm just a curious guy...
>>>
>>> John Shenot
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
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Date: 7/1/25 6:58 am From: Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
thought of as an escaped bird.
How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther south
in Colorado?
Scott Rashid
Estes park
On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are
> illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
> Yellow Grosbeak.
> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged
> birds.
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
> <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
>
>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>> documented."
>>
>> David Steingraeber
>> Fort Collins
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf of
>> Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
>> *To:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>>
>>
>> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>>
>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park
>> today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>
>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way.
>> I'm just a curious guy...
>>
>> John Shenot
>> Fort Collins
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Date: 6/30/25 3:49 pm From: Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the Yellow Grosbeak. I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged birds.
Susan Rosine Brighton
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> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare > Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors > state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001), > extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They > then give several examples where various state records committees have not > accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences > have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this: > "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are > escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully > documented." > > David Steingraeber > Fort Collins > > ------------------------------ > *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf of > Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> > *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM > *To:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...> > *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering... > > > *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender *** > To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. > Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > Susan Rosine > Brighton > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote: > > I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park > today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has > considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How > would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, > without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it > unreasonable for me to wonder? > > Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. > I'm just a curious guy... > > John Shenot > Fort Collins > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Colorado Birds" group. > To post to this group, send email to <cobirds...> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds > * All posts should be signed with the poster's full name and city. Include > bird species and location in the subject line when appropriate. > * Join Colorado Field Ornithologists https://cobirds.org/membership/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Colorado Birds" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to cobirds+<unsubscribe...> > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CACPnx8U9%<2BHDm3PZ_CHJ3rhqpc2UaoTbL2ajSBU83m4N_Gy9E1w...> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CACPnx8U9%<2BHDm3PZ_CHJ3rhqpc2UaoTbL2ajSBU83m4N_Gy9E1w...>?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
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Date: 6/30/25 1:36 pm From: Peter Burke <peterburke...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Hi David,
You bring up a good point regarding the Yellow Grosbeak(s)? in Colorado,
which have now been documented in four counties(!). There has been a spate
of unusual sightings of birds in Colorado recently including Black-bellied
Whistling Duck and Anhinga in Boulder County; Hooded Oriole in Gunnison
County; Lawrence's Goldfinch in Huerfano County; Cactus Wren in Otero
County; Cocos Booby in Baca County; Crested Caracara in Pueblo County;
Black-chinned Sparrow in Montezuma County; and just today, Tropical
Kingbird in Arapahoe County. Wow!
Reporting sightings like these to the Colorado Bird Records Committee
<https://cobirds.org/cbrc/> ensures that they will receive careful scrutiny
as part of a rigorous peer review process including discussion regarding
providence, which takes into account the possibility that birds may have
escaped from captivity. When the CBRC accepts a record, it becomes part of
the state's official list and is archived within the Denver Museum of
Nature and Science. The online reporting process is fairly easy and well
worth the effort!
Best,
Peter Burke
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<David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
> documented."
>
> David Steingraeber
> Fort Collins
>
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> Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
> *To:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
>
>
> *** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ***
> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>
> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park
> today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>
> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way.
> I'm just a curious guy...
>
> John Shenot
> Fort Collins
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With it you can trim down a recording to the snippet containing the
interesting parts and save it in a number of formats.
You can also enhance a recording. There are many options you can explore
or simply keep it simple and trim a recording.
I have more experience using it to create ring tones for Android or iPhone
from MP3 popular music song recordings, but it will read/write the .WAV
format that Merlin uses just as readily as MP3 and several other formats.
Merlin saves your recordings on your phone and you can easily copy them to
your computer for editing.
Good luck,
Chip
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 1:33 PM Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
> Hi, Cobirders,
>
> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>
> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
> on the wall beside the window).
>
> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Marty Wolf
> Nw Colorado Springs
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Date: 6/30/25 10:55 am From: Steingraeber,David <David.Steingraeber...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In Rare Birds of North America by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001), extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They then give several examples where various state records committees have not accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this: "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully documented."
David Steingraeber
Fort Collins
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To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Susan Rosine
Brighton
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...><mailto:<johnshenot...>> wrote:
I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it unreasonable for me to wonder?
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. I'm just a curious guy...
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Date: 6/29/25 10:21 pm From: Marty <wolfmartinc...> Subject: [cobirds] The flicker and the mountain cottontail
Greetings Cobirders,
I have to share (in description, as I didn't get any photos) what I
witnessed earlier this (Sunday) morning, & have been processing since...
I was upstairs with the door & windows open, doing stretches/tai chi etc
when I heard distress/pain calls outside--and on looking down saw, in the
grasses & forbs along our neighbors' driveway what appeared to be an adult
cottontail rabbit on top of some other creature which was screaming in pain
or terror.
A few robins had gathered around and started scolding, which then were
joined by a flicker that landed on the driveway and, while giving the
"kyeer" call a couple times, hopped right up to the rabbit--which then
released its captive and ran a few feet away.
At that point I was thinking the victim was a bird, but couldn't see it
very well so I went downstairs to grab my binocs & ran back upstairs. It
was in fact a female flicker, obviously injured but quiet now that its
attacker had withdrawn. But then the rabbit jumped back on top of it and
held it pinned down and appeared to be pulling feathers out with its mouth
(and the flicker resumed its cries of pain/alarm immediately). I could not
believe it. For some reason at that point the robins AND the other flicker
flew off, but the rabbit continued its mauling for a few more seconds, then
jumped back off.
WTF? I yelled down at the rabbit, and it just froze, a few feet from the
flicker. I went downstairs & outside to scare it off, but when I got out
there the rabbit was nowhere in sight. The flicker was obviously quite
injured (I couldn't see any blood, but it was crippled and trying to scoot
using its wings as crutches, and losing its balance, rolling forward
etc)... I really didn't think there was anything I could do for it, and was
reluctant to handle it in case it could be infected with H5N1 or
something...
Do we have any mammalogists or lagomorph specialists in our cobirds family?
If anyone has thoughts or experience with an interaction like this, please
reply (privately if our good moderator feels this isn't about birds so
much). Pretty baffling.
Now I don't want to hear about the rabbit that launched a swimming "attack"
on Jimmy Carter in his fishing boat, nor about the Killer Rabbit that held
off King Arthur's men in "Monty Python & the Holy Grail"...😜 But I've
never seen rabbits & (non-raptor) birds be anything but congenial
cohabitants in the yard, and never heard of anyone reporting a rabbit
attacking a bird. (When I google it, most of the "hits" are about hawks
preying on rabbits--Not what I asked, but thanks, AI.)
I did look up and found out that rabbits can (but don't often) get rabies,
and one type of response is uncontrolled aggression & biting. I also
considered that maybe it was a momma rabbit on the defense with little ones
in a burrow under a tall grass clump, and the flicker went poking for ants
too close--but found no sign of that when I poked around (only a bunch of
flicker contour feathers).
Please don't dismiss me as nuts or unreliable, this actually happened.
Marty Wolf
NW CO Spgs
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Date: 6/29/25 9:02 pm From: Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Susan Rosine Brighton
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> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park > today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has > considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How > would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, > without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it > unreasonable for me to wonder? > > Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. > I'm just a curious guy... > > John Shenot > Fort Collins >
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Not THAT problem, but today eBird was telling me that several common birds were Infrequent or Unreported, which is weird, because I bird the area a lot and have reported them all the time. Susan Rosine Brighton
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Date: 6/29/25 7:49 pm From: linda hodges <hikerhodges...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Hmmm, it appears that YEGRs have been seen in AZ, NM, CA, CO and IA, so
perhaps an occasional appearance isn't out of order. You may recall that
one was seen in Huerfano Cty in May of 2021.
*Linda Hodges*
On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park
> today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>
> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way.
> I'm just a curious guy...
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> John Shenot
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Date: 6/29/25 7:32 pm From: John Shenot <johnshenot...> Subject: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range, without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it unreasonable for me to wonder?
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that way. I'm just a curious guy...
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Apparently my name was left off my previous post. I thought it was automatic.
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I have been experiencing a glitch w/the map link in eBird reports. I don't get the map of where the bird was seen, but something unrelated.
Is anyone else having this problem?
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Date: 6/29/25 4:14 pm From: Marty <wolfmartinc...> Subject: [cobirds] Young Great Horned Owl calling or what?
OK, Cobirders,
so I used Audacity to do minor start/end editing & to "normalize" the recording I had made the night of June 27 with Merlin. Sorry, still some annoying if scattered background noise, and all the silence in-between call series (which occur at 01"-06", 09"-10", 22"-24", 36"-42", 56"-1'02", 1'47"-2'04", 2'12"-2'16", 2'52"-3'04", and 3'42"-3'52"). The better series are in red.
Not like any juvenile GHOW I've heard previously, but what else could it be? Not a mule deer or its fawn, or a dog, or any other owl (or nightjar) I know of. No adult GHOW were calling here that night, tho they often are. 2025.06.27_22.46_Young GHOwl or what_ hootcall series.wav <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pUVw4DuV8qE7rSSsizBiwCayKj2tTSRa> Thanks for your input.
Marty Wolf Nw CO Spgs
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I believe that the Merlin app is a secret weapon attracting more people to
birding. More and more as I am out birding, I get approached by walkers,
bikers or runners wanting to visit about what birds I am seeing. And more
often than not, Merlin comes up in the conversation. These are folks that
are not birders but definitely are getting interested in birding because of
Merlin. Many of them mention their surprise at the number of species that
Merlin ID’s in their own backyards. I think that Merlin is the new spark
app that will bring in a lot of new birders.
Gregg Goodrich
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I use the “Recorder Plus - Audio Editor” app on my iPhone to edit my Merlin
recordings. It costs $4.99 per year and runs only on iPhones I believe. You
can trim and normalize your Merlin recordings with this app directly on
your iPhone. Therefore, when in the field or on a longer birding trip, you
no longer need to transfer the recording to a computer. Just work them on
the phone and then upload them to your eBird checklist. The app is easy to
use and certainly speeds up the process of getting an edited version of
your recording on to your checklist. You can also delete sections of a
recording, but eBird discourages this in most cases.
Gregg Goodrich
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On Sunday, June 29, 2025 at 3:03:27 AM UTC-6 l p wrote:
> I also use Audacity. deletion of sections is easy, but watch a quick
> youTube video. enhancing volume is also straightforward. this is a
> powerful program, made for music editing; a few quick steps help the
> Merlin recordings if you are trying to delete voices and a bird that isn't
> the focus species.
> Linda P
> denver
>
> On Saturday, June 28, 2025 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-6 Marty wrote:
>
>> Hi, Cobirders,
>>
>> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
>> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
>> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
>> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>>
>> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
>> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
>> on the wall beside the window).
>>
>> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
>> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
>> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Marty Wolf
>> Nw Colorado Springs
>>
>>
>>
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Date: 6/29/25 6:51 am From: Viki Lawrence <viki.lawrence...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Abridged summary of - 4 updates in 1 topic
A couple years ago I was hearing a sound at night I couldn’t identify.
Merlin twice identified it as a sora. Living in the suburbs of Louisville
this seemed exceedingly unlikely. I was finally able to see the bird, a
young great horned owl. It would be nice to be able to update Merlin with
that “song”!
Viki Lawrence
Louisville
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Date: 6/29/25 2:03 am From: l p <linpurcellzz...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Editing Merlin sound recordings?
I also use Audacity. deletion of sections is easy, but watch a quick
youTube video. enhancing volume is also straightforward. this is a
powerful program, made for music editing; a few quick steps help the
Merlin recordings if you are trying to delete voices and a bird that isn't
the focus species.
Linda P
denver
On Saturday, June 28, 2025 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-6 Marty wrote:
> Hi, Cobirders,
>
> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>
> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
> on the wall beside the window).
>
> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Marty Wolf
> Nw Colorado Springs
>
>
>
>
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2025, 2:09 PM Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a...>
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> Instructions From ebird
> <https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001064341-audio-preparation-and-upload-guidelines> >
>
> I also use Audacity
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 2:03 PM Jedediah Smith <jedsmith54...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Marty,
>>
>> I personally use Audacity to edit my phone based recording. It takes a
>> bit of messing around to figure everything out, but it is free and does
>> everything I have wanted to do so far, including: clipping and deleting
>> segments, amplifying audio volume, reducing background noise, and showing
>> the spectrogram. I do it on my computer, I am not sure if there is a cell
>> phone based app. I hope that helps!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jed Smith
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2025, 1:33 PM Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Cobirders,
>>>
>>> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
>>> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
>>> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
>>> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>>>
>>> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
>>> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
>>> on the wall beside the window).
>>>
>>> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
>>> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
>>> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Marty Wolf
>>> Nw Colorado Springs
>>>
>>>
>>>
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I had not seen a dusky grouse in Custer County for over 25 years. Our cabin sits at 9200 ft.Leon Bright , Pueblo
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I've enjoyed the stimulating conversation about the Merlin Bird ID app;
thanks to Paula Hansley for getting it going in the first place.
My take: By far the most valuable output from Merlin is the scrolling
spectrograms of birdsong; the ID suggestions are of distantly secondary
value. Here are a couple of case studies from earlier today, Sat., June 28:
First, at the Big Bluestem Loop Trail, Rocky Mountain Arsenal National
Wildlife Refuge, Adams Co., my companions with Denver Audubon and I were
enjoying a spectacular show by at least five sage thrashers, a species that
comes up with the dreaded "red dot" on the eBird app. So we needed proof.
Well, we took photos. :-) But I also quickly ran Merlin, and you can
totally see the herky-jerky phrasing in the spectrogram. Yes, "According to
Merlin," but the proof is in the pudding: the actual spectrogram, as
diagnostic as any photo of the species. Here ya go:
[image: real time output.png]
Now let's be honest. Reading a scrolling spectrogram in real time whilst
the bird is under observation isn't for everybody. That's totally fine.
Which brings up the second and, I would say, even more powerful case study
from earlier today. Before all the sage thrashers, as I was pulling up at
the refuge gate shortly before sunrise, I thought I heard a Brewer sparrow,
another "red dot" species. The song was distant, the prairie was still
pretty dark, and I needed an assist from Merlin. Sure enough, Merlin
reported Brewer sparrow. But was it really that species? I'd moved onto
something else, but I still had the audio because Merlin doesn't dump your
recordings; the user has to do that. So I clicked on the file; and then
clicked on the name of the bird; and, then, *voilà*, Merlin took me right
back to the exact point at which the bird started singing. And you can
totally see the diagnostic spectrogram:
[image: reviewed ouput.png]
I ran that diagnostic just a minute or so later, whilst in the field, but I
could have done it back home this evening—or even weeks or months later.
Merlin never forgets. (By the way, we documented an astounding 25 Brewer
sparrows at Big Bluestem; also 7 Cassin sparrows there.)
As an eBird reviewer, and on behalf of all the eBird reviewers in Colorado
and elsewhere, I'm practically begging you: Include the audio from Merlin!
Imagine getting killer photos of, oh I dunno, a yellow grosbeak in Larimer
Co., and simply stating: "Merlin." Same deal with relatively more prosaic
birds like singing Brewer sparrows and sage thrashers at The Arsenal at the
end of the third week of June. Upload the audio, and an eBird reviewer will
do the rest; for particularly tricky outputs, we'll appeal to Nathan
Pieplow to figure it all out... ;-)
A participant in this morning's field trip made an excellent analogy with
reading an x-ray. Most doctors would probably want to, you know, *actually
examine the image*, rather going solely off an AI's best guess that it was,
say, a transverse fracture of the distal radius.
The convo here at COBirds all started with the concern that Merlin had
misidentified a yellow-breasted chat as a lesser goldfinch. Did that really
happen? Perhaps. Both species are exceedingly protean in their utterances.
But we have the spectrograms!—really! we do! So we can go back to the
soundfile, click on the name of the species, get popped right back to the
presumptive lesser goldfinch, and see whether it was that species or
perhaps a yellow-breasted chat.
Two other matters have arisen in the course of this interesting discussion.
1. The accuracy of the Merlin Bird ID app. It is, in a nutshell, fantastic.
My sense is that we have crossed the "Garry Kasparov rubicon" with Merlin;
or, if your inclinations lie elsewhere, the "Lee Sedol rubicon." Merlin has
become that good. Here in Colorado, maybe Christian Nunes is still better,
but, as brilliant as Christian is, Merlin is learning *much faster* than
Christian, a mere human, can ever hope to. It won't even be close in five
years, perhaps not even one or two years. I firmly believe that we humans
will always derive immense satisfaction from recognizing birdsong without
AI assistance. But that's different from being better than AI. We're not.
Computers figured out how to beat the world's best chess players several
decades ago, and the world's best go players in the past decade;
identifying birdsong is, let's be honest, a comparatively trivial
undertaking.
2. Human sensory perception *vis-à-vis* electronic gadgetry. It is true
that our human ears and our smartphones' microphones are, in the broadest
sense, "the same thing": Both are, to be technical about
it, transducers—which detect sound energy, convert it to an electrical
signal, and transmit it to a receiver. But the analogy breaks down when we
compare what happens in the auditory cortexes in our brains with the
motherboards in our devices, with substantially different capacities for
processing the dynamical properties of frequency sensitivity, simultaneous
inputs in acoustically complex environments, and the subjective impressions
of amplitude, intonation, and modulation as they relate to the
interpretation of natural sounds. In plain English, what we notice (what
our brains think is "important") isn't the same as what the computer
notices.
Finally, here's something that the AIs don't yet have on us—and that I have
a hard time envisioning ever will: our deeply moving response to being on
the prairie at sunrise. The "mental" component of it—"that's a lark
bunting, told by its flight call, rising quickly through the 3kHz
band"—isn't really the point, is it? Rather, the entire experience: the
fresh morning air, the sunshine on our flesh, the twinkling spiderworts and
luminous globemallows; and most of all, the human camaraderie, taking it
all in, smiling together at a funny-looking beetle on the path, laughing
out loud at bison rolling in the dust, learning and sharing and wondering
together.
Ted Floyd
Lafayette, Boulder Co.
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Date: 6/28/25 7:59 pm From: 'Leon Bright' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Dusky grouse in Custer County.
While this grouse is not particularly scarce in our state, I saw a hen and several chicks at our cabin at about 7:00 this evening. That sent my 87 year-old to racing. I had not seen a dusky (Blue ,
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 2:03 PM Jedediah Smith <jedsmith54...> wrote:
> Hey Marty,
>
> I personally use Audacity to edit my phone based recording. It takes a bit
> of messing around to figure everything out, but it is free and does
> everything I have wanted to do so far, including: clipping and deleting
> segments, amplifying audio volume, reducing background noise, and showing
> the spectrogram. I do it on my computer, I am not sure if there is a cell
> phone based app. I hope that helps!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jed Smith
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2025, 1:33 PM Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Cobirders,
>>
>> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
>> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
>> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
>> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>>
>> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
>> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
>> on the wall beside the window).
>>
>> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
>> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
>> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Marty Wolf
>> Nw Colorado Springs
>>
>>
>>
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I personally use Audacity to edit my phone based recording. It takes a bit
of messing around to figure everything out, but it is free and does
everything I have wanted to do so far, including: clipping and deleting
segments, amplifying audio volume, reducing background noise, and showing
the spectrogram. I do it on my computer, I am not sure if there is a cell
phone based app. I hope that helps!
Cheers,
Jed Smith
On Sat, Jun 28, 2025, 1:33 PM Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
> Hi, Cobirders,
>
> Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out
> back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all
> screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and
> Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
>
> But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the
> beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking
> on the wall beside the window).
>
> Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording
> to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for
> over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Marty Wolf
> Nw Colorado Springs
>
>
>
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Last night I had what was likely a young Great Horned Owl in a tree out back, making a repeated call I didn't recall hearing before (not at all screechy or harsh). Of course I couldn't make a visual observation, and Merlin made no suggestions for sound ID.
But I have a long Merlin recording, with especially long spans at the beginning and the end of silence (except for crickets and the clock ticking on the wall beside the window).
Is there any way to edit, or a program you can export a Merlin recording to in order to edit out chunks of silence?? (This recording goes on for over 5 minutes, with a fair amount of it.)
Thanks for any help.
Marty Wolf Nw Colorado Springs
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Date: 6/27/25 1:49 pm From: l p <linpurcellzz...> Subject: [cobirds] birding in Bhutan
i just completed a great birding trip to Bhutan. We saw every target species as well as an unexpected and thrilling view of of a critically endangered bird. I highly recommend the well-established local Bhutanese company that i used. If you want their contact information, reply privately to me. The arrange and guide trips for Birding (primary focus), Cultural, and Trek trips, and combinations of those. Linda Purcell
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Date: 6/26/25 11:15 am From: John Rawinski <johnrawinski0...> Subject: [cobirds] Nesting Black Phoebes return to Rio Grande County
Hi all and happy summer. Just got back from a month in Australia (180 lifers) and it was a wonderful trip. So I am getting my feet back on the ground here locally and have been out to visit some of the usual summer haunts.
Of particular interest is that Black Phoebes (a pair) have returned to a bridge in Rio Grande County, where I documented the first record for their breeding in the San Luis Valley a while back (*Colorado Birds*). It is nice to see them return.
In other birdsy news, I am hearing reports of a Greater Roadrunner in the Valley.
Anyway, regards from here!
John Rawinski Monte Vista, CO
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Date: 6/25/25 6:47 pm From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Hummer help - Arapahoe
Jared
Female broad-tailed hummingbirds are ferocious in defense of a nest. I have seen them go after fox squirrels many times and even watched one female run off a fledged Great Horned Owl oblivious enough to land in her nest spruce.
Dave Leatherman
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Subject: [cobirds] Hummer help - Arapahoe
This afternoon, I watched a hummingbird that I think is a Broad-tailed dive at Lesser Goldfinches. In flight, the hummingbird flashed its tail, which included noticeable orange coloring. The hummingbird was definitely not an adult male. It lacked the gorget and didn't make the trilling call during its dives. It's throat seemed spotted. The light's a little tough for clean views with my binoculars, whose lenses aren't clean enough for a clean view of a tiny bird in tough light. I lost the bird during a trip inside to nab my camera.
So if I have the identification to species correct: is this a first-year male? Have they already left nests (I suspect not, at least around here)? Or do the females also dive at other birds? (I'm not seeing a reference to females Broad-tailed Hummingbirds diving in Birds of the World.)
I'll work on getting a better view...or better yet, a photo.
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Date: 6/25/25 12:54 pm From: David Suddjian <dsuddjian...> Subject: [cobirds] BIRD BOMBS scheduled for this Thursday June 26 canceled
Hi Birders,
Sorry bird the BIRD BOMBS Habitat Blast: Prairie View scheduled for tomorrow June 26 has been canceled. It will be rescheduled for a future date.
Watch for an announcement soon of the next episode on July 17.
David
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This gosling among Canada geese at McIntosh Lake, Longmont the other day. It doesn't look quite like a Canada goose gosling. Can anyone help identify this young goose? [image: oddGoose-062425-3.JPG]
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Date: 6/25/25 9:05 am From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: Merlin misidentification…
David, is it time to end this thread?
Ira Sanders
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2025, 8:05 AM Bob Shade <wrshade3...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone top this? I was at Beaver Ranch Park recently. Merlin
> identified the scream of the zip line as a Peregrine Falcon! That would be
> my second Peregrine for this year!
> On Saturday, June 21, 2025 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-6 Paula Hansley wrote:
>
>> For those who rely on Merlin,
>>
>> I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It
>> consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I
>> was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its
>> identification to chat.
>>
>> Paula Hansley
>> Louisville
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Date: 6/25/25 5:35 am From: Kelly Ambler <kelly.ambler1...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
Merlin once identified my husband's cough as a flammulated owl. 😆
Nonetheless, I have found Merlin to be a very useful tool. It especially
helpful for getting back up to speed while recovering from winter amnesia.
Kelly Ambler
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On Sun, Jun 22, 2025, 5:00 AM Paul Malinowski <pillarpaul...> wrote:
> A couple of years ago I ran a photo through Merlin of a bird I had just
> seen and photographed but wasn't sure of. Merlin told me it couldn't
> identify it despite it seeming to be a clearly identifiable photo. I did
> some research through other resources and was able to definitively ID the
> bird as.......a Merlin!
>
> Paul Malinowski
> Littleton, CO
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 9:32 PM 'Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds <
> <cobirds...> wrote:
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>> At Rampart a couple days ago Merlin informed me that a blue manakin was
>> present. Try as I would, I could not locate it……
>> Norm Lewis
>> Lakewood
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
>> On Jun 21, 2025, at 7:12 PM, Chris H <chobbs.f1...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> New cell phones have wonderful cameras but still have crap microphones.
>> Better microphones can be connected to you phone that will give you better
>> range and sensitivity. I've noticed a big improvement in accuracy with this
>> add-on.
>>
>> Chris Hobbs
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf of
>> Paula Hansley <plhansley...>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2025 11:50:26 AM
>> *To:* CObirds <cobirds...>
>> *Subject:* [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
>>
>> For those who rely on Merlin,
>>
>> I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It
>> consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I
>> was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its
>> identification to chat.
>>
>> Paula Hansley
>> Louisville
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Date: 6/24/25 6:39 pm From: Janeal Thompson <prairiestarflower...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Hummingbirds at my feeders
Hello All,
On June 13th, I posted that I had not had a resident Black-chinned
Hummingbird at my feeders for the first time in approximately 18 years.
Yesterday, after the recent terrible heat and high winds, a male
Black-chinned Hummingbird arrived and staked out my feeders acting
territorial. He was visiting the feeders regularly, today; hopefully, he
will stay around and find a female soon.
Thank you Paula and Pam for your responses.
Janeal Thompson
Lamar, CO
On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 12:54 AM Janeal Thompson <
<prairiestarflower...> wrote:
> Just a note: This is the first year I have NOT had a resident
> Black-chinned Hummingbird in my yard since I have been putting out feeders,
> probably about 18 or more years. There was a male BCHU visiting briefly
> for two days in May, but hasn't been seen since. Hopefully, things will
> change as the summer approaches and I will have a resident and other
> hummingbird visitors.
>
> Janeal Thompson
> Lamar, CO
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Date: 6/24/25 6:34 pm From: Chris H <chobbs.f1...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Birding Poland, Finland and Norway
"Missed it by that much", Norm.
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Subject: [cobirds] Birding Poland, Finland and Norway
Hello All,
I am announcing a trip this spring to Poland, Finland, and Norway for May 24 through June 10. I am working with local guides.. Physically, the trip will be fairly easy as there will be no long or steep hikes. I will cap the trip at 8. The cost will be about $6,000. I can provide a much more detailed trip description and species list.
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Arvada CO
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Date: 6/24/25 5:41 pm From: Jared Del Rosso <jared.delrosso...> Subject: [cobirds] Hummer help - Arapahoe
This afternoon, I watched a hummingbird that I *think* is a Broad-tailed dive at Lesser Goldfinches. In flight, the hummingbird flashed its tail, which included noticeable orange coloring. The hummingbird was definitely not an adult male. It lacked the gorget and didn't make the trilling call during its dives. It's throat seemed spotted. The light's a little tough for clean views with my binoculars, whose lenses aren't clean enough for a clean view of a tiny bird in tough light. I lost the bird during a trip inside to nab my camera.
So if I have the identification to species correct: is this a first-year male? Have they already left nests (I suspect not, at least around here)? Or do the females also dive at other birds? (I'm not seeing a reference to females Broad-tailed Hummingbirds diving in *Birds of the World*.)
I'll work on getting a better view...or better yet, a photo.
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Date: 6/24/25 5:26 pm From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Lea Ann,
Or he and his mate may be nesting and have eggs! No reason to keep singing.
Paula Hansley
Louisville
On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 1:01 PM Lea Ann Brown <lannisam...> wrote:
> Before we moved from our old house in Central Highlands Ranch, 10 years
> ago, there were several pairs of Chipping Sparrows that nested in pines
> every year in open space, just west of Highlands Ranch Mansion.
>
> We now live a couple miles Northeast of that location near Dad Clark
> Gulch. Highlands Ranch Parkway/University vicinity. For the first time in
> 10 years, We had a calling Chipping Sparrow in a deciduous tree in front
> of our house. He sang for almost three weeks and now I’ve not heard him for
> a few days. I’m assuming he’s moved one.
>
> Lea Ann Brown
> Highlands Ranch, CO
> Douglas County
>
> On Jun 24, 2025, at 4:32 AM, J V Rudd <van.rudd...> wrote:
>
> The pair near my house in Louisville are nesting in a spruce tree that is
> about 12 years old (it was planted when our neighborhood was developed).
> Perhaps the presence of nuthatches, chipping sparrows, and their ilk is due
> to the increase in suitable habitat, which is accompanied by suitable food
> sources? More evergreens around the metro area equals more montaine bird
> species?
> Van Rudd
> Louisville, CO
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:44 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges...>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> With the advance of climate change, I'd expected bird species to be
>> moving to higher altitudes, not lower. Regarding the Chipping Sparrow and
>> other species that Dave mentioned, plus the Western Flycatchers that have
>> moved into urban Colorado Springs, is the movement primarily food related?
>>
>> Dave, and others, what are your thoughts?
>>
>> *Linda Hodges*
>>
>> *Colorado Springs*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:24 PM Tina Jones <tjcalliope...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had nesting Chipping Sparrows in my neighborhood for at least 3
>>> years. I live in Bow Mar,[Littleton], one block away from Denver. They have
>>> been nesting in non-native juniper shrubs which are around three feet in
>>> height. I see the parent flying into the shrubs with food. Last year,2024,
>>> three young came to my bird bath, which was fun to watch. ONE Chipping
>>> Sparrow spent a whole winter in my YARD from 2023-2024.
>>>
>>> There are many non- native Juniper shrubs, along with plants that form
>>> habitats with different vegetation heights of plants in my neighborhood. I
>>> have tiered clumps of plantings. No Chipping Sparrow has nested on my
>>> property yet, but I keep hoping.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tina Jones
>>>
>>> Littleton, Jefferson county, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> *On Behalf
>>> Of *David Suddjian
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 22, 2025 8:06 PM
>>> *To:* corvidcolo <corvidcolo...>
>>> *Cc:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in
>>> Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers
>>> meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I
>>> noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but
>>> regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the
>>> Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Suddjian
>>>
>>> Littleton, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <
>>> <cobirds...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi COBIRDERS,
>>>
>>> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech
>>> Center, Arapahoe County
>>>
>>> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>>>
>>> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
>>> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
>>> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>>>
>>> Today I found one "carrying food".
>>>
>>> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
>>> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>>>
>>> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
>>> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
>>> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
>>> <CorvidColo...>
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Date: 6/24/25 3:19 pm From: Norm Erthal <normanerthal...> Subject: [cobirds] Birding Poland, Finland and Norway
Hello All, I am announcing a trip this spring to Poland, Finland, and Norway for May 24 through June 10. I am working with local guides.. Physically, the trip will be fairly easy as there will be no long or steep hikes. I will cap the trip at 8. The cost will be about $6,000. I can provide a much more detailed trip description and species list. Norm Erthal Arvada CO
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Date: 6/24/25 1:36 pm From: Jared Del Rosso <jared.delrosso...> Subject: [cobirds] Backyard bird observations - Arapahoe
Birdy morning in my west Centennial yard today. House Wren parents were diligently feeding noisy and active fledglings. So, too, were Black-capped Chickadees, Robins, and Spotted Towhees. Sunflowers attracted Lesser and American Goldfinches. A White-breasted Nuthatch briefly visited. And an intergrade Northern Flicker, with a bright red malar what seemed to me like a fully formed red crescent on his nape, stood out. (Intergrade flickers aren't unusual around Centennial, but rarely is the red patch so extensive.)
On a mid-afternoon bike ride along the High Line Canal Trail, I thought I heard a Western Flycatcher. Maybe, maybe not. I also heard a Chipping Sparrow. Noting that because of the recent question on metro area Chipping Sparrows.
From what I can tell, Chipping Sparrows, a few juncos, and those previously mentioned Western Flycatchers all seem to nest around the west Centennial, Greenwood Village, Cherry Hills Village area along creeks and the High Line Canal Trail. And they have for much of the time I've been down here (since 2016).
- Jared Del Rosso Centennial, CO
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Date: 6/24/25 12:15 pm From: Todd Deininger <goldeneagle90a...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow-footed Gull-Not so much-Pueblo County
Josh,
Are you saying that there is no YFGU in Pueblo and that it was a
misidentified LBBG or that the bird it Steven’s photos in not the YFGU and
there is/was a YFGU in Pueblo?
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Date: 6/24/25 12:01 pm From: Lea Ann Brown <lannisam...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Before we moved from our old house in Central Highlands Ranch, 10 years ago, there were several pairs of Chipping Sparrows that nested in pines every year in open space, just west of Highlands Ranch Mansion.
We now live a couple miles Northeast of that location near Dad Clark Gulch. Highlands Ranch Parkway/University vicinity. For the first time in 10 years, We had a calling Chipping Sparrow in a deciduous tree in front of our house. He sang for almost three weeks and now I’ve not heard him for a few days. I’m assuming he’s moved one.
Lea Ann Brown
Highlands Ranch, CO
Douglas County
> On Jun 24, 2025, at 4:32 AM, J V Rudd <van.rudd...> wrote:
>
> The pair near my house in Louisville are nesting in a spruce tree that is about 12 years old (it was planted when our neighborhood was developed). Perhaps the presence of nuthatches, chipping sparrows, and their ilk is due to the increase in suitable habitat, which is accompanied by suitable food sources? More evergreens around the metro area equals more montaine bird species?
> Van Rudd
> Louisville, CO
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:44 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges...> <mailto:<hikerhodges...>> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> With the advance of climate change, I'd expected bird species to be moving to higher altitudes, not lower. Regarding the Chipping Sparrow and other species that Dave mentioned, plus the Western Flycatchers that have moved into urban Colorado Springs, is the movement primarily food related?
>>
>> Dave, and others, what are your thoughts?
>>
>> Linda Hodges
>> Colorado Springs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:24 PM Tina Jones <tjcalliope...> <mailto:<tjcalliope...>> wrote:
>>> I have had nesting Chipping Sparrows in my neighborhood for at least 3 years. I live in Bow Mar,[Littleton], one block away from Denver. They have been nesting in non-native juniper shrubs which are around three feet in height. I see the parent flying into the shrubs with food. Last year,2024, three young came to my bird bath, which was fun to watch. ONE Chipping Sparrow spent a whole winter in my YARD from 2023-2024.
>>>
>>> There are many non- native Juniper shrubs, along with plants that form habitats with different vegetation heights of plants in my neighborhood. I have tiered clumps of plantings. No Chipping Sparrow has nested on my property yet, but I keep hoping.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tina Jones
>>>
>>> Littleton, Jefferson county, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: <cobirds...> <mailto:<cobirds...> <cobirds...> <mailto:<cobirds...>> On Behalf Of David Suddjian
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2025 8:06 PM
>>> To: corvidcolo <corvidcolo...> <mailto:<corvidcolo...>> >>> Cc: Colorado Birds <cobirds...> <mailto:<cobirds...>> >>> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Suddjian
>>>
>>> Littleton, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> <mailto:<cobirds...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi COBIRDERS,
>>>
>>> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center, Arapahoe County
>>>
>>> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>>>
>>> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>>>
>>> Today I found one "carrying food".
>>>
>>> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>>>
>>> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area. The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
>>> <CorvidColo...> <mailto:<CorvidColo...> >>>
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This opinion has been echoed by several other expert larophiles in recent days.
Bird is the word!
Josh Bruening Fort Collins
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Date: 6/24/25 7:05 am From: Bob Shade <wrshade3...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Merlin misidentification…
Can anyone top this? I was at Beaver Ranch Park recently. Merlin identified
the scream of the zip line as a Peregrine Falcon! That would be my second
Peregrine for this year!
On Saturday, June 21, 2025 at 10:50:41 AM UTC-6 Paula Hansley wrote:
> For those who rely on Merlin,
>
> I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It
> consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I
> was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its
> identification to chat.
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Date: 6/24/25 5:50 am From: J V Rudd <van.rudd...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
The pair near my house in Louisville are nesting in a spruce tree that is
about 12 years old (it was planted when our neighborhood was developed).
Perhaps the presence of nuthatches, chipping sparrows, and their ilk is due
to the increase in suitable habitat, which is accompanied by suitable food
sources? More evergreens around the metro area equals more montaine bird
species?
Van Rudd
Louisville, CO
On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:44 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges...> wrote:
> All,
>
> With the advance of climate change, I'd expected bird species to be moving
> to higher altitudes, not lower. Regarding the Chipping Sparrow and other
> species that Dave mentioned, plus the Western Flycatchers that have moved
> into urban Colorado Springs, is the movement primarily food related?
>
> Dave, and others, what are your thoughts?
>
> *Linda Hodges*
>
> *Colorado Springs*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:24 PM Tina Jones <tjcalliope...> wrote:
>
>> I have had nesting Chipping Sparrows in my neighborhood for at least 3
>> years. I live in Bow Mar,[Littleton], one block away from Denver. They have
>> been nesting in non-native juniper shrubs which are around three feet in
>> height. I see the parent flying into the shrubs with food. Last year,2024,
>> three young came to my bird bath, which was fun to watch. ONE Chipping
>> Sparrow spent a whole winter in my YARD from 2023-2024.
>>
>> There are many non- native Juniper shrubs, along with plants that form
>> habitats with different vegetation heights of plants in my neighborhood. I
>> have tiered clumps of plantings. No Chipping Sparrow has nested on my
>> property yet, but I keep hoping.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tina Jones
>>
>> Littleton, Jefferson county, CO
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> *On Behalf
>> Of *David Suddjian
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 22, 2025 8:06 PM
>> *To:* corvidcolo <corvidcolo...>
>> *Cc:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
>>
>>
>>
>> Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in
>> Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers
>> meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I
>> noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but
>> regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the
>> Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Suddjian
>>
>> Littleton, CO
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <
>> <cobirds...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi COBIRDERS,
>>
>> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech
>> Center, Arapahoe County
>>
>> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>>
>> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
>> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
>> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>>
>> Today I found one "carrying food".
>>
>> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
>> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>>
>> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
>> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
>> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>>
>> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
>> <CorvidColo...>
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Chipping Sparrow as well as everything else in nature is always is changing, nothing is static. The earth is always in flux, distribution of trees, habitats, climate all are constantly changing, some fast some more slowly. Every thing is constantly adapting to what is new. Everything is in motion
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Date: 6/23/25 1:44 pm From: linda hodges <hikerhodges...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
All,
With the advance of climate change, I'd expected bird species to be moving
to higher altitudes, not lower. Regarding the Chipping Sparrow and other
species that Dave mentioned, plus the Western Flycatchers that have moved
into urban Colorado Springs, is the movement primarily food related?
Dave, and others, what are your thoughts?
*Linda Hodges*
*Colorado Springs*
On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 2:24 PM Tina Jones <tjcalliope...> wrote:
> I have had nesting Chipping Sparrows in my neighborhood for at least 3
> years. I live in Bow Mar,[Littleton], one block away from Denver. They have
> been nesting in non-native juniper shrubs which are around three feet in
> height. I see the parent flying into the shrubs with food. Last year,2024,
> three young came to my bird bath, which was fun to watch. ONE Chipping
> Sparrow spent a whole winter in my YARD from 2023-2024.
>
> There are many non- native Juniper shrubs, along with plants that form
> habitats with different vegetation heights of plants in my neighborhood. I
> have tiered clumps of plantings. No Chipping Sparrow has nested on my
> property yet, but I keep hoping.
>
>
>
> Tina Jones
>
> Littleton, Jefferson county, CO
>
>
>
> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> *On Behalf Of
> *David Suddjian
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 22, 2025 8:06 PM
> *To:* corvidcolo <corvidcolo...>
> *Cc:* Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
>
>
>
> Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in
> Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers
> meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I
> noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but
> regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the
> Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
>
>
>
> David Suddjian
>
> Littleton, CO
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <
> <cobirds...> wrote:
>
> Hi COBIRDERS,
>
> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center,
> Arapahoe County
>
> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>
> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>
> Today I found one "carrying food".
>
> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>
> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>
> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
> <CorvidColo...>
>
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Date: 6/23/25 1:24 pm From: Tina Jones <tjcalliope...> Subject: RE: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
I have had nesting Chipping Sparrows in my neighborhood for at least 3 years. I live in Bow Mar,[Littleton], one block away from Denver. They have been nesting in non-native juniper shrubs which are around three feet in height. I see the parent flying into the shrubs with food. Last year,2024, three young came to my bird bath, which was fun to watch. ONE Chipping Sparrow spent a whole winter in my YARD from 2023-2024.
There are many non- native Juniper shrubs, along with plants that form habitats with different vegetation heights of plants in my neighborhood. I have tiered clumps of plantings. No Chipping Sparrow has nested on my property yet, but I keep hoping.
Tina Jones
Littleton, Jefferson county, CO
From: <cobirds...> <cobirds...> On Behalf Of David Suddjian
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2025 8:06 PM
To: corvidcolo <corvidcolo...>
Cc: Colorado Birds <cobirds...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
David Suddjian
Littleton, CO
On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...><mailto:<cobirds...>> wrote:
Hi COBIRDERS,
Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center, Arapahoe County
When: First 3 week of June 2025
I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
Today I found one "carrying food".
Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area. The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
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Date: 6/23/25 12:43 pm From: Nicolle Martin <nicolle.h.martin...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Yes; in my experience they are nesting here in Littleton. They built a nest
in a ponderosa, at least 15-20 feet off the ground in a neighbor’s
backyard. At least one baby fell out and later died. Another that was
definitively older was also found out of the nest, but it had more mature
feathers and open eyes. I suspect it came from a different nest, as I saw
at least 3 adults when I was attempting to help the other baby.
Nicolle Martin
Ken Caryl, CO
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>
> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center,
> Arapahoe County
>
> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>
> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>
> Today I found one "carrying food".
>
> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>
> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>
> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
> <CorvidColo...>
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Date: 6/23/25 10:59 am From: Marty <wolfmartinc...> Subject: [cobirds] Edison BBS summary, El Paso
Greetings, CoBirders,
This past Thurs (6/19) I did the first of my two breeding bird surveys, which was out in the far southeast corner of El Paso County. It was pleasantly green out there, but without any playas, or water rushing in normally-dry creek beds, or muddy roads as I feared, considering the frequent rains in the past 4 weeks. [image: IMG_2407be.jpg] It was a 13-yr high count of Lark Buntings, at 163 a bit over twice the average for this route; plenty of Mourning Doves & Western Meadowlarks, maybe a bit below average on Horned Larks. Above-average on Mtn Plovers (not so many, but 12 vs the more typical 1-3), and slightly above-average for Com. Nighthawks. [image: IMG_2389bee-6.19-7.42am-Stop 22.jpg] [image: IMG_2402be.jpg] Below-average on a number of species-- L. Shrike (2 on scouting day, none on countday) & Burrowing Owl; NO Grasshopper Sparrows (well, MAYBE? 1 on the previous scouting day, but thru the everpresent chorus of Lark Bunting songs it was hard to say for sure). No Scaled Quail, fewer than average hawks and Cassin Sparrows (tho still a good number of the latter).
I tallied 26 species (the average over 13 yrs) on countday, with 3-4 others seen or heard only on the preceding scouting day. Oh, and as always, lots of Pronghorn & Black-tailed Prairie Dogs... and 2 nice-looking Black-tailed Jackrabbits. The prairie dog colonies seem to be slowly moving back farther from the roads over time, making it more difficult to pick out Burrowing Owls (especially during the 3-minute Stop limit!)--I found a definite 4 on my unrestricted scouting day, an uncertain 2 on count day...
This Wednesday I head down to the San Juans (Rio Grande County & Natl Forest) for my other BBS. Good birding.
Marty Wolf Nw CO Springs
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Date: 6/23/25 6:38 am From: Diana Beatty <otowi33.33...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Just yesterday I saw and heard Western Flycatchers in the Old North End
neighborhood of Colorado Springs. A few years ago there was a Dark-Eyed
Juncos nest at a high school on the West side of town. At my house
southeast of town we have sometimes had nesting Mountain Chickadees and
Red-breasted Nuthatches.
Diana Beatty
El Paso County
On Sun, Jun 22, 2025, 8:06 PM David Suddjian <dsuddjian...> wrote:
> Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in
> Arapahoe Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers
> meets their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I
> noticed Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but
> regularly present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the
> Prince Street corridor of Littleton.
>
> David Suddjian
> Littleton, CO
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 5:04 PM 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <
> <cobirds...> wrote:
>
>> Hi COBIRDERS,
>>
>> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech
>> Center, Arapahoe County
>>
>> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>>
>> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
>> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
>> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>>
>> Today I found one "carrying food".
>>
>> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
>> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>>
>> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
>> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
>> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>>
>> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
>> <CorvidColo...>
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Date: 6/22/25 7:06 pm From: David Suddjian <dsuddjian...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Chipping Sparrow has nested for years at the Littleton Cemetery in Arapahoe
Co, where the combo of open lawn and tall well-spaced conifers meets
their liking. When I was often in Littleton proper from 2014-2022 I noticed
Chipping Sparrows were sparsely, somewhat sporadically, but regularly
present as breeders in varied spots in neighborhoods along the Prince
Street corridor of Littleton.
David Suddjian
Littleton, CO
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<cobirds...> wrote:
> Hi COBIRDERS,
>
> Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center,
> Arapahoe County
>
> When: First 3 week of June 2025
>
> I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our
> neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already
> be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
>
> Today I found one "carrying food".
>
> Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly
> nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
>
> As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point
> Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area.
> The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
>
> Thanks, Chris Blakeslee
> <CorvidColo...>
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The Yellow headed blackbirds are fledging and all over my yard. they are cautious, but not really scared of people. I've only noticed the males feeding the fledglings. Is that the way this works or am I just missing seeing the females? They seem to be all over the other side of the road at the lake.
I've attached a photo of a very hungry fledgling following its father around my yard.
Not the best pic, I screenshot it from the video I took.
Pauli Smith
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Date: 6/22/25 4:18 pm From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Chris et al,
Chipping sparrows have nested in small numbers for most years in the last10 at Grandview Cemetery in urban Fort Collins (elevation about 5000’ ASL). Other occasional but regular foothills species nesting at Grandview have been Broad-tailed Hummingbirds, Red-breasted Nuthatches, Ruby-crowned Kinglets, Western Wood-Pewees and Bushtits. A Western Tanager nested at Grandview a few years ago, as did a Red Crossbill. I think all of this is influenced by habitat maturation and climate change, probably mostly the former. The recent increased reporting of Western Flycatchers at low elevation seems part of this phenomenon, also.
Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
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Subject: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Hi COBIRDERS,
Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center, Arapahoe County
When: First 3 week of June 2025
I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
Today I found one "carrying food".
Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area. The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
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Date: 6/22/25 4:04 pm From: 'corvidcolo' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] Chipping Sparrow Question? - Metro Area
Hi COBIRDERS,
Where: Suburban neighborhoods just west of the Denver Tech Center, Arapahoe County
When: First 3 week of June 2025
I have found a number of adult Chipping Sparrows in our neighborhoods and parks each week of June this year. They should already be nesting up in the Ponderosa Pine forests of the Front Range.
Today I found one "carrying food".
Question: Are others also finding Chipping Sparrows seemingly nesting in the Metro Area this year or in the last couple of years.
As Bob Righter pointed out a bunch of years ago, at that point Red-breasted Nuthatches had become year round residents of the Metro Area. The same with Bushtits. Are we now seeing a change with Chipping Sparrows?
Thanks, Chris Blakeslee <CorvidColo...>
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Another option is an external microphone. At the recommendation of Joseph
Tuttle who led a DFO field trip to Park County in April, I purchased an
external microphone for my mobile phone. On Amazon, it was all of $15. It
clips onto my ballcap so my phone can remain in my pocket while Merlin
listens. This leaves my hands free to use binoculars and I can reach for
my phone to see what Merlin has heard. The external mic is MUCH better
than the built in mic.
Does anyone else have experience they can share regarding an external mic
for your phone?
Best Regards,
Chip Dawes
On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 12:32 PM Paula Hansley <plhansley...> wrote:
> Another factor: how clean is the microphone on your iPhone! Someone at
> Front Range Birding in Boulder cleaned my phone’s microphone with a
> toothpick. After that cleaning , Merlin was a lot more accurate!
>
> I must admit that I didn’t even know where the microphone was on my iPhone
> and had never cleaned it!
>
> Paula
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 11:27 AM Robert Righter <rorighter...>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Paula for a very important observation about bird sound
>>
>> Merlin is no different than our ears. If a bird is at a distant it can
>> sound different than being up close. This is also is true if a birds is
>> facing away from you the same result as being far away. Also birds like the
>> Chat are extremely variable in how in they say it., Factor in distance,
>> wind, direction, and air density and lot of other variables, it can be
>> tricky. The Spotted Towhee is common around the house. If I didn’t know
>> how common they are, my yard list would be much larger than it is now
>>
>> Bob Righter
>> Denver,CO
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Date: 6/22/25 11:32 am From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: Merlin’s microphone…
Another factor: how clean is the microphone on your iPhone! Someone at
Front Range Birding in Boulder cleaned my phone’s microphone with a
toothpick. After that cleaning , Merlin was a lot more accurate!
I must admit that I didn’t even know where the microphone was on my iPhone
and had never cleaned it!
Paula
On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 11:27 AM Robert Righter <rorighter...>
wrote:
> Thank you Paula for a very important observation about bird sound
>
> Merlin is no different than our ears. If a bird is at a distant it can
> sound different than being up close. This is also is true if a birds is
> facing away from you the same result as being far away. Also birds like the
> Chat are extremely variable in how in they say it., Factor in distance,
> wind, direction, and air density and lot of other variables, it can be
> tricky. The Spotted Towhee is common around the house. If I didn’t know
> how common they are, my yard list would be much larger than it is now
>
> Bob Righter
> Denver,CO
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Date: 6/22/25 10:27 am From: Robert Righter <rorighter...> Subject: [cobirds] Great Post by Paula
Thank you Paula for a very important observation about bird sound
Merlin is no different than our ears. If a bird is at a distant it can sound different than being up close. This is also is true if a birds is facing away from you the same result as being far away. Also birds like the Chat are extremely variable in how in they say it., Factor in distance, wind, direction, and air density and lot of other variables, it can be tricky. The Spotted Towhee is common around the house. If I didn’t know how common they are, my yard list would be much larger than it is now
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Date: 6/22/25 8:55 am From: Mark Miller <snowy.owlets...> Subject: [cobirds] Yellow-footed Gull Pueblo ReS (El Paso) 6/22
Hi Everyone,
I got digiscope photos of the Yellow-footed Gull this morning. One tail feather still has some black, but otherwise it looks like an adult. It's been lounging on the tires at the South Marina.
Mark Miller Beaverton, OR
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Date: 6/22/25 4:00 am From: Paul Malinowski <pillarpaul...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
A couple of years ago I ran a photo through Merlin of a bird I had just
seen and photographed but wasn't sure of. Merlin told me it couldn't
identify it despite it seeming to be a clearly identifiable photo. I did
some research through other resources and was able to definitively ID the
bird as.......a Merlin!
Paul Malinowski
Littleton, CO
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 9:32 PM 'Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds <
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> At Rampart a couple days ago Merlin informed me that a blue manakin was
> present. Try as I would, I could not locate it……
> Norm Lewis
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> On Jun 21, 2025, at 7:12 PM, Chris H <chobbs.f1...> wrote:
>
>
> New cell phones have wonderful cameras but still have crap microphones.
> Better microphones can be connected to you phone that will give you better
> range and sensitivity. I've noticed a big improvement in accuracy with this
> add-on.
>
> Chris Hobbs
>
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> *Subject:* [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
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> For those who rely on Merlin,
>
> I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It
> consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I
> was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its
> identification to chat.
>
> Paula Hansley
> Louisville
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Date: 6/21/25 7:26 pm From: Jack Bushong <jcbushong01...> Subject: [cobirds] VERMILLION FLYCATCHER - Moffat County
Hi all,
My brother and I found a male Vermillion Flycatcher today in the town of Dinosaur, Moffat County. It was flycatching from a fence here (40.2398732, -109.0116631).
Cheers, Jack
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Date: 6/21/25 7:26 pm From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> Subject: [cobirds] Anhinga - Boulder - Boulder Co
Birders, The Anhinga continues at the known location. I didn't see anyone posting this on Cobirds.
-- Ira Sanders Golden, CO "My mind is a raging torrent flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."
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Date: 6/21/25 6:12 pm From: Chris H <chobbs.f1...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
New cell phones have wonderful cameras but still have crap microphones. Better microphones can be connected to you phone that will give you better range and sensitivity. I've noticed a big improvement in accuracy with this add-on.
Chris Hobbs
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Subject: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
For those who rely on Merlin,
I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its identification to chat.
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Date: 6/21/25 5:17 pm From: Caleb A <calebscotta...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin changing its mind
Hello Paula!
Thanks for bringing this up--as a musician who's messed around with testing the accuracy of Merlin's audio identification (I can't afford a camera, so I've gravitated towards recording bird songs for the past few years haha), the proximity to the singing bird affects two incredibly important factors that influence the computer: clarity of timbre (specificity, density on sonogram, etc.) and decibels (imagine looking at a photo that has contrast blasted vs. a very low contrast-res image). Since many passerines are distinguished by mere nuances of timbre at times, *and* considering the constantly fluctuating factor of background noise that pollutes the clarity of the timbres Merlin can capture with a live sonogram, I've learned to give Merlin audio an appropriate amount of skepticism. Merline audio will continue to improve with time, but the volume of audios captured in the birding community is so enormously dwarfed by the photos captured, so training Merlin has disproportionately favored photos over audio as of now!
Happy birding! Caleb Alons
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On Saturday, June 21, 2025, 2:20 PM, Steingraeber,David <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
#yiv3031903256 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}There's good reason not to rely solely on Merlin Sound ID, or sometimes, even your ears! (After all, Merlin WAS a magician, and although it's called "Sound ID", it labels what it lists as "best suggestions", not identifications.) While I was in Portal, AZ in April, a Northern Mockingbird flew in and perched in a nearby mesquite. I had Merlin Sound ID running, and as I watched the mockingbird, it proceeded to mimic all of the following (as "suggested" by Merlin, and my ears, too!): Northern Flicker, Cactus Wren, Brown-crested Flycatcher, Say's Phoebe, Rock Wren, Gila Woodpecker, Hooded Oriole, Western Kingbird, Western Tanager, Ash-throated Flycatcher, Hermit Thrush, Crissal Thrasher, & Brown Thrasher, with some of those repeated/interspersed in the sequence! Mimus polyglottos, indeed!
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
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I had Merlin identify a bird as an Indigo Bunting when the only bird singing was a Lazuli Bunting - clearly in my binoculars - white wing bars and orange breast - maybe 50 ft from me. Merlin did finally identify the bird as a Lazuli, but more often came back with Indigo. I won't trust Merlin unless I hear the bird, and if the song is unfamiliar to me - I'll often disregard the ID ( not included in my ebird list) unless I SEE the bird. It's a Great tool - but is imperfect. .
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 12:41 PM Jeff P <jeff.percell...> wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I had Merlin incorrectly suggesting mockingbird where Yellow-breasted chats and separately gray catbirds were actively chattering. I also had Merlin recommending Ash-throated Flycatcher on Thursday afternoon at the parking area for Lichen Loop Trailhead in Boulder County. However, I believe it was just a Yellow-breasted chat mixing in an ATFL call.
Remain vigilant when using Merlin.
Good birding,Jeff Percell Erie, CO
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For those who rely on Merlin,
I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its identification to chat.
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Date: 6/21/25 4:38 pm From: 'Buzz' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin changing its mind
I agree Marty,
Think about the number of photos that are probably submitted daily. 100K or 1M? Worldwide.
I’m sure there are far fewer sounds submitted. When the sound reviews increase to a similar level and frequency then our sounds quality will increase too.
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On Saturday, June 21, 2025, 3:22 PM, Marty <wolfmartinc...> wrote:
I had some interesting moments with Merlin back in May at Aiken Canyon, when I wasn't quite sure just what warbler I was hearing (only one individual singer)... so I opened it up, and every time the warbler sang Merlin simultaneously said Yellow Warbler AND Virginia's Warbler. After first IDing both at once, with each repeated song Merlin lit up both together! I listened VERY carefully, and only one bird was singing.
So I felt sympathetic with (but surprised at) its indecision, and shut it off. The dry habitat suggested Virginia's over Yellow, but there had been repeated spring rains over the past week, as evidenced by fresh mud & even standing water at one spot in the normally dry creek bed... and migration was underway, so I finally decided this bird was a Yellow (& then later, further along the trail, I did hear and see a Virginia as well.
But I wonder if this is a case like yours Paula, where if I had moved closer Merlin would have made a clear decision. I generally think of a Yellow warbler's song as louder & more emphatic than a Virginia's, but from further away maybe the differences fade?
My 73-yr-old ears & 58 years of birding experience are still (in most cases I think) better than Merlin's, but it is still a remarkable & useful (& remarkably improving--unlike yours truly) tool!
Marty Wolf NW Colorado Springs
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 12:49 PM Paula Hansley <plhansley...> wrote:
Birders,What I find to be most interesting about my experience this morning is that Merlin changed its mind when I got closer to the bird— from Lesser Goldfinch to Yellow-breasted Chat. I’m used to it being mistaken, but I didn’t realize that distance to the bird can make such a difference.
Paula HansleyLouisville
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Date: 6/21/25 2:22 pm From: Marty <wolfmartinc...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin changing its mind
I had some interesting moments with Merlin back in May at Aiken Canyon,
when I wasn't quite sure just what warbler I was hearing (only one
individual singer)... so I opened it up, and every time the warbler sang
Merlin simultaneously said Yellow Warbler AND Virginia's Warbler. After
first IDing both at once, with each repeated song Merlin lit up both
together! I listened VERY carefully, and only one bird was singing.
So I felt sympathetic with (but surprised at) its indecision, and shut it
off. The dry habitat suggested Virginia's over Yellow, but there had been
repeated spring rains over the past week, as evidenced by fresh mud & even
standing water at one spot in the normally dry creek bed... and migration
was underway, so I finally decided this bird was a Yellow (& then later,
further along the trail, I did hear and see a Virginia as well.
But I wonder if this is a case like yours Paula, where if I had moved
closer Merlin would have made a clear decision. I generally think of a
Yellow warbler's song as louder & more emphatic than a Virginia's, but from
further away maybe the differences fade?
My 73-yr-old ears & 58 years of birding experience are still (in most cases
I think) better than Merlin's, but it is still a remarkable & useful (&
remarkably improving--unlike yours truly) tool!
Marty Wolf
NW Colorado Springs
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> Birders,
> What I find to be most interesting about my experience this morning is
> that Merlin changed its mind when I got closer to the bird— from Lesser
> Goldfinch to Yellow-breasted Chat. I’m used to it being mistaken, but I
> didn’t realize that distance to the bird can make such a difference.
>
> Paula Hansley
> Louisville
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There's good reason not to rely solely on Merlin Sound ID, or sometimes, even your ears! (After all, Merlin WAS a magician, and although it's called "Sound ID", it labels what it lists as "best suggestions", not identifications.) While I was in Portal, AZ in April, a Northern Mockingbird flew in and perched in a nearby mesquite. I had Merlin Sound ID running, and as I watched the mockingbird, it proceeded to mimic all of the following (as "suggested" by Merlin, and my ears, too!): Northern Flicker, Cactus Wren, Brown-crested Flycatcher, Say's Phoebe, Rock Wren, Gila Woodpecker, Hooded Oriole, Western Kingbird, Western Tanager, Ash-throated Flycatcher, Hermit Thrush, Crissal Thrasher, & Brown Thrasher, with some of those repeated/interspersed in the sequence! Mimus polyglottos, indeed!
Dave Steingraeber
Fort Collins
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
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I had Merlin identify a bird as an Indigo Bunting when the only bird singing was a Lazuli Bunting - clearly in my binoculars - white wing bars and orange breast - maybe 50 ft from me. Merlin did finally identify the bird as a Lazuli, but more often came back with Indigo. I won't trust Merlin unless I hear the bird, and if the song is unfamiliar to me - I'll often disregard the ID ( not included in my ebird list) unless I SEE the bird. It's a Great tool - but is imperfect. .
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 12:41 PM Jeff P <jeff.percell...><mailto:<jeff.percell...>> wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I had Merlin incorrectly suggesting mockingbird where Yellow-breasted chats and separately gray catbirds were actively chattering. I also had Merlin recommending Ash-throated Flycatcher on Thursday afternoon at the parking area for Lichen Loop Trailhead in Boulder County. However, I believe it was just a Yellow-breasted chat mixing in an ATFL call.
Remain vigilant when using Merlin.
Good birding,
Jeff Percell
Erie, CO
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 10:50 AM Paula Hansley <plhansley...><mailto:<plhansley...>> wrote:
For those who rely on Merlin,
I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its identification to chat.
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I had Merlin identify a bird as an Indigo Bunting when the only bird
singing was a Lazuli Bunting - clearly in my binoculars - white wing bars
and orange breast - maybe 50 ft from me. Merlin did finally identify the
bird as a Lazuli, but more often came back with Indigo. I won't trust
Merlin unless I hear the bird, and if the song is unfamiliar to me - I'll
often disregard the ID ( not included in my ebird list) unless I SEE the
bird. It's a Great tool - but is imperfect. .
On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 12:41 PM Jeff P <jeff.percell...> wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I had Merlin incorrectly suggesting mockingbird
> where Yellow-breasted chats and separately gray catbirds were actively
> chattering. I also had Merlin recommending Ash-throated Flycatcher on
> Thursday afternoon at the parking area for Lichen Loop Trailhead in Boulder
> County. However, I believe it was just a Yellow-breasted chat mixing in an
> ATFL call.
>
> Remain vigilant when using Merlin.
>
> Good birding,
> Jeff Percell
> Erie, CO
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025, 10:50 AM Paula Hansley <plhansley...> wrote:
>
>> For those who rely on Merlin,
>>
>> I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It
>> consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I
>> was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its
>> identification to chat.
>>
>> Paula Hansley
>> Louisville
>>
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Date: 6/21/25 11:49 am From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: [cobirds] Merlin changing its mind
Birders,
What I find to be most interesting about my experience this morning is that
Merlin changed its mind when I got closer to the bird— from Lesser
Goldfinch to Yellow-breasted Chat. I’m used to it being mistaken, but I
didn’t realize that distance to the bird can make such a difference.
Paula Hansley
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Date: 6/21/25 11:41 am From: Jeff P <jeff.percell...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
A couple of weeks ago I had Merlin incorrectly suggesting mockingbird where Yellow-breasted chats and separately gray catbirds were actively chattering. I also had Merlin recommending Ash-throated Flycatcher on Thursday afternoon at the parking area for Lichen Loop Trailhead in Boulder County. However, I believe it was just a Yellow-breasted chat mixing in an ATFL call.
Remain vigilant when using Merlin.
Good birding, Jeff Percell Erie, CO
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Date: 6/21/25 9:50 am From: Paula Hansley <plhansley...> Subject: [cobirds] Merlin misidentification…
For those who rely on Merlin,
I tested Merlin several times while on a walk this morning. It consistently identified a Yellow-breasted Chat as a Lesser Goldfinch when I was more than 50 m from the bird! As I got closer, it changed its identification to chat.
Paula Hansley Louisville
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Date: 6/21/25 12:16 am From: Arthur Bezuidenhout <odzibez...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
Hi,
Yes, I did have a different species mentioned, But if the first ID was
wrong, and 30 people saw the same bird, they could all be wrong. Not
saying the ID was wrong, there is a possibility.
Bez
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:46 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges...> wrote:
> 30 people reported it as a YFGU yesterday, so I'd say that that's the
> consensus.
>
>
> *Linda Hodges*
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12 PM Dave Cameron <davednvr7...> wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any discussion as to confirmation of this bird's
>> identity. Is it for sure a Yellow-footed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave Cameron
>> Denver
>>
>> On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 4:36:38 PM UTC-6 Brandon wrote:
>>
>>> off North picnic road
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 4:35 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon K. Percival
>>>>> Pueblo West, CO
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds <
>>>>> <cob......> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> COBirders,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir
>>>>>> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other notables:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neotropic Cormorant
>>>>>> Laughing Gull (adult)
>>>>>> Lesser Black-backed Gull
>>>>>> Caspian Tern
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Peterson
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Date: 6/20/25 11:40 pm From: Arthur Bezuidenhout <odzibez...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
Hi,
Where I am visiting in the UK, where Yellow-legged Gulls are often seen,,
Merlin will often report European Herring Gulls as Yellow-legged Gulls.
Bez Bezuidenhout
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:46 PM linda hodges <hikerhodges...> wrote:
> 30 people reported it as a YFGU yesterday, so I'd say that that's the
> consensus.
>
>
> *Linda Hodges*
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12 PM Dave Cameron <davednvr7...> wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any discussion as to confirmation of this bird's
>> identity. Is it for sure a Yellow-footed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave Cameron
>> Denver
>>
>> On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 4:36:38 PM UTC-6 Brandon wrote:
>>
>>> off North picnic road
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 4:35 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandon K. Percival
>>>>> Pueblo West, CO
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds <
>>>>> <cob......> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> COBirders,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir
>>>>>> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other notables:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neotropic Cormorant
>>>>>> Laughing Gull (adult)
>>>>>> Lesser Black-backed Gull
>>>>>> Caspian Tern
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Peterson
>>>>>> Colorado Springs
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Date: 6/20/25 2:46 pm From: linda hodges <hikerhodges...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
30 people reported it as a YFGU yesterday, so I'd say that that's the
consensus.
*Linda Hodges*
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12 PM Dave Cameron <davednvr7...> wrote:
> I haven't seen any discussion as to confirmation of this bird's identity.
> Is it for sure a Yellow-footed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Cameron
> Denver
>
> On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 4:36:38 PM UTC-6 Brandon wrote:
>
>> off North picnic road
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 4:35 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>
>>> the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently.
>>>>
>>>> Brandon K. Percival
>>>> Pueblo West, CO
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds <
>>>> <cob......> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> COBirders,
>>>>>
>>>>> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir
>>>>> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing
>>>>> yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other notables:
>>>>>
>>>>> Neotropic Cormorant
>>>>> Laughing Gull (adult)
>>>>> Lesser Black-backed Gull
>>>>> Caspian Tern
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Peterson
>>>>> Colorado Springs
>>>>>
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Date: 6/20/25 11:42 am From: Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
Another question. Now that we think that it is a Blackburnian Warbler, what do they eat? I still have a bid feeder out filled with niger seed for the gold finches, and a pie plate filled with treats such as slightly ripe strawberries, blueberries, cherry tomatoes, etc. Was it attracted to any of that?
I'm going to keep an eye out for it and if I see it again, I'll notify the list.
By the way, the Yellow headed blackbirds are especially abundant on the south end of Highland Lake this year, and I was able to see my first fledglings. They almost look like chicks that have started to feather out a bit.
Pauli
Higlandlake/Mead, Weld County
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From: DAVID A LEATHERMAN <daleatherman...>
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
Pauli
Could it have been a Blackburnian Warbler?
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I think it is too small. It was somewhere in size between a goldfinch and a House sparrow. I got a good look at its size because it landed right at my feet, then flew up into the tree next to my chair, sat there for a second, then flew off into the other trees. It looked like a Warbler in body size and shape but which kind, I'm not sure of. The closest it comes to in my bird book is a Blackburne Warbler, but I didn't think they came this far south.
Pauli
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025, 10:18 AM Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...><mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> wrote:
I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
Any ideas of what it might be?
Pauli Smith
Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 11:42 am From: Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
I haven't seen it again, but if it is still around, I'll keep an eye out. I have about 60+ trees on my property across from Highland Lake. They are very birdy this year, but until last evening, nothing unexpected.
Pauli
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
May 11, 2006, Welchester Tree Park, Lakewood
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:55 AM Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...><mailto:<patodrisk...>> wrote:
As Mary says, it's certainly possible.
We had a rather celebrated Blackburnian five years ago at the "migrant trap" that is the First Creek @ Green Valley Ranch hotspot in Denver.
The male bird stuck around for five days in mid-May 2020 and became a lifer for many birders.
Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:34 AM Mary Keithler <mkeithler...><mailto:<mkeithler...>> wrote:
Hi Pauli,
According to Sibley’s range map, they are rare here, but certainly possible.
That is the closest that I found in my bird book, but do they get down this far south? Beautiful bird. I wish I could have gotten a photo, but it was too fast for me.
Pauli
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From: Mary Keithler <mkeithler...><mailto:<mkeithler...>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 10:27 AM
To: Driver-Smith Pauli <hollyhockfarms...><mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> Cc: cobirds <cobirds...><mailto:<cobirds...>> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
Hi Pauli,
At least part of your description sounds like a Blackburnian warbler.
I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
Any ideas of what it might be?
Pauli Smith
Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 11:42 am From: Gary Brower <grb4914...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
May 27, 2024, Cherry Creek State Park.
> On Jun 20, 2025, at 12:00 PM, Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> wrote:
>
> May 11, 2006, Welchester Tree Park, Lakewood
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:55 AM Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...> <mailto:<patodrisk...>> wrote:
>> As Mary says, it's certainly possible.
>> We had a rather celebrated Blackburnian five years ago at the "migrant trap" that is the First Creek @ Green Valley Ranch hotspot in Denver.
>> The male bird stuck around for five days in mid-May 2020 and became a lifer for many birders.
>>
>> Patrick O'Driscoll
>> Denver
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:34 AM Mary Keithler <mkeithler...> <mailto:<mkeithler...>> wrote:
>>> Hi Pauli,
>>>
>>> According to Sibley’s range map, they are rare here, but certainly possible.
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:28 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> <mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is the closest that I found in my bird book, but do they get down this far south? Beautiful bird. I wish I could have gotten a photo, but it was too fast for me.
>>>>
>>>> Pauli
>>>> From: Mary Keithler <mkeithler...> <mailto:<mkeithler...>> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 10:27 AM
>>>> To: Driver-Smith Pauli <hollyhockfarms...> <mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> >>>> Cc: cobirds <cobirds...> <mailto:<cobirds...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pauli,
>>>> At least part of your description sounds like a Blackburnian warbler.
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:18 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> <mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas of what it might be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pauli Smith
>>>>> Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
>>>>> I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Date: 6/20/25 11:12 am From: Dave Cameron <davednvr7...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
I haven't seen any discussion as to confirmation of this bird's identity.
Is it for sure a Yellow-footed?
Thanks,
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On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 4:36:38 PM UTC-6 Brandon wrote:
> off North picnic road
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> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 4:35 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
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>> the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flamm......> wrote:
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>>> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently.
>>>
>>> Brandon K. Percival
>>> Pueblo West, CO
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds <
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>>>> COBirders,
>>>>
>>>> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir
>>>> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>> Other notables:
>>>>
>>>> Neotropic Cormorant
>>>> Laughing Gull (adult)
>>>> Lesser Black-backed Gull
>>>> Caspian Tern
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Peterson
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Date: 6/20/25 11:00 am From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
May 11, 2006, Welchester Tree Park, Lakewood
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:55 AM Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...>
wrote:
> As Mary says, it's certainly possible.
> We had a rather celebrated Blackburnian five years ago at the "migrant
> trap" that is the First Creek @ Green Valley Ranch hotspot in Denver.
> The male bird stuck around for five days in mid-May 2020 and became a
> lifer for many birders.
>
> Patrick O'Driscoll
> Denver
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:34 AM Mary Keithler <mkeithler...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pauli,
>>
>> According to Sibley’s range map, they are rare here, but certainly
>> possible.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:28 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That is the closest that I found in my bird book, but do they get down
>> this far south? Beautiful bird. I wish I could have gotten a photo, but it
>> was too fast for me.
>>
>> Pauli
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Mary Keithler <mkeithler...>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2025 10:27 AM
>> *To:* Driver-Smith Pauli <hollyhockfarms...>
>> *Cc:* cobirds <cobirds...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
>>
>> Hi Pauli,
>> At least part of your description sounds like a Blackburnian warbler.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:18 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into
>> the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is
>> one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a
>> picture.
>>
>> I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't
>> know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
>>
>> It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is
>> different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest,
>> dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black
>> cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it
>> reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a
>> lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
>>
>> Any ideas of what it might be?
>>
>> Pauli Smith
>> Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
>> I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
>>
>>
>>
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Date: 6/20/25 9:55 am From: Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
As Mary says, it's certainly possible.
We had a rather celebrated Blackburnian five years ago at the "migrant
trap" that is the First Creek @ Green Valley Ranch hotspot in Denver.
The male bird stuck around for five days in mid-May 2020 and became a lifer
for many birders.
Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:34 AM Mary Keithler <mkeithler...> wrote:
> Hi Pauli,
>
> According to Sibley’s range map, they are rare here, but certainly
> possible.
>
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:28 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...>
> wrote:
>
>
> That is the closest that I found in my bird book, but do they get down
> this far south? Beautiful bird. I wish I could have gotten a photo, but it
> was too fast for me.
>
> Pauli
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> *From:* Mary Keithler <mkeithler...>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2025 10:27 AM
> *To:* Driver-Smith Pauli <hollyhockfarms...>
> *Cc:* cobirds <cobirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
>
> Hi Pauli,
> At least part of your description sounds like a Blackburnian warbler.
>
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:18 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...>
> wrote:
>
>
> I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the
> trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I
> have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
>
> I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't
> know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
>
> It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is
> different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest,
> dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black
> cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it
> reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a
> lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
>
> Any ideas of what it might be?
>
> Pauli Smith
> Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
> I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 9:52 am From: Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
I think it is too small. It was somewhere in size between a goldfinch and a House sparrow. I got a good look at its size because it landed right at my feet, then flew up into the tree next to my chair, sat there for a second, then flew off into the other trees. It looked like a Warbler in body size and shape but which kind, I'm not sure of. The closest it comes to in my bird book is a Blackburne Warbler, but I didn't think they came this far south.
Pauli
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025, 10:18 AM Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...><mailto:<hollyhockfarms...>> wrote:
I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
Any ideas of what it might be?
Pauli Smith
Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 9:38 am From: Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
That is the closest that I found in my bird book, but do they get down this far south? Beautiful bird. I wish I could have gotten a photo, but it was too fast for me.
Pauli
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Hi Pauli,
At least part of your description sounds like a Blackburnian warbler.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 20, 2025, at 10:18 AM, Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> wrote:
I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
Any ideas of what it might be?
Pauli Smith
Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 9:18 am From: Pauli Driver-Smith <hollyhockfarms...> Subject: [cobirds] Different bird at my deck last evening
I had a small bird fly down at my feet last evening then take off into the trees. I got a fairly good look at it, and I know for sure that it is one I have never seen before. It took off again before I could get a picture.
I'm not a professional birder or even a avid hobbyist anymore, so I don't know the proper terminology, but I'll do my best to describe it.
It looks like a warbler. right size, beak and body shape, etc. What is different is that it had an orange throat that bled down into his chest, dark brown/almost black body, white wing patches/bars` and a bit of a black cap that stretched down to his back. The orange was really orange until it reached his chest then blended into more of a yellowish tint. If it was a lot bigger, I'd say it resembled some Orioles in coloring.
Any ideas of what it might be?
Pauli Smith
Highlandlake/Mead, Weld County.
I live across the road from the south shore of the lake.
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Date: 6/20/25 8:50 am From: <quezada......> <quezadapablo05...> Subject: [cobirds] Re: YELLOW-FOOTED GULL Pueblo Res update
Hey everybody!
My name is Pablo and I'm a Denver birder. Just wondering if anyone is going
down today who I could tag along with. I would obviously compensate with
gas money. Just let me know!
Thanks,
Pablo
On Friday, June 20, 2025 at 7:22:05 AM UTC-6 Brandon wrote:
> Sounds like the gull was present early this morning at South Shore Marina
> at Pueblo Reservoir, Pueblo County, 20 June. Good luck to everyone trying
> to see it today and this weekend. I won't be around there today
> or tomorrow, family things going on. It was nice to see so many birding
> friends yesterday afternoon at Pueblo Reservoir. Congrats to Mark Peterson
> on another amazing find for Colorado.
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> Pueblo West, CO
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Date: 6/20/25 6:22 am From: Brandon <flammowl17...> Subject: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED GULL Pueblo Res update
Sounds like the gull was present early this morning at South Shore Marina at Pueblo Reservoir, Pueblo County, 20 June. Good luck to everyone trying to see it today and this weekend. I won't be around there today or tomorrow, family things going on. It was nice to see so many birding friends yesterday afternoon at Pueblo Reservoir. Congrats to Mark Peterson on another amazing find for Colorado.
Brandon Percival Pueblo West, CO
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Date: 6/19/25 3:36 pm From: Brandon <flammowl17...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
off North picnic road
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> the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flammowl17...> wrote: > >> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently. >> >> Brandon K. Percival >> Pueblo West, CO >> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds < >> <cobirds...> wrote: >> >>> COBirders, >>> >>> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir >>> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing >>> yet. >>> >>> Other notables: >>> >>> Neotropic Cormorant >>> Laughing Gull (adult) >>> Lesser Black-backed Gull >>> Caspian Tern >>> >>> >>> Mark Peterson >>> Colorado Springs >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Colorado Birds" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to <cobirds...> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds >>> * All posts should be signed with the poster's full name and city. >>> Include bird species and location in the subject line when appropriate. >>> * Join Colorado Field Ornithologists https://cobirds.org/membership/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Colorado Birds" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to cobirds+<unsubscribe...> >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/<1438546894.355251.1750343236498...> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/<1438546894.355251.1750343236498...>?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>
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Date: 6/19/25 3:36 pm From: Brandon <flammowl17...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
the gull is in middle of lake of North Marina at 435pm
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 1:40 PM Brandon <flammowl17...> wrote:
> I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently. > > Brandon K. Percival > Pueblo West, CO > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 8:27 AM 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds < > <cobirds...> wrote: > >> COBirders, >> >> There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir >> south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing >> yet. >> >> Other notables: >> >> Neotropic Cormorant >> Laughing Gull (adult) >> Lesser Black-backed Gull >> Caspian Tern >> >> >> Mark Peterson >> Colorado Springs >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Colorado Birds" group. >> To post to this group, send email to <cobirds...> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds >> * All posts should be signed with the poster's full name and city. >> Include bird species and location in the subject line when appropriate. >> * Join Colorado Field Ornithologists https://cobirds.org/membership/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Colorado Birds" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to cobirds+<unsubscribe...> >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/<1438546894.355251.1750343236498...> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/<1438546894.355251.1750343236498...>?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >
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Date: 6/19/25 12:41 pm From: Brandon <flammowl17...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
I am hearing the Gull is there at South Marina tires currently.
Brandon K. Percival Pueblo West, CO
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Date: 6/19/25 9:02 am From: Patrick O'Driscoll <patodrisk...> Subject: [cobirds] Anhinga played hard-to-get Thursday am 6/19
But she finally showed up off 95th Street in Boulder County about 4 hours
after sunrise — just not in the usual pond and trees east of the road.
MOB now watching her on opposite side, west of 95th, in distant dead-snag
popular with several DC Cormorants.
She remains a beauty.
Patrick O’Driscoll
Denver
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Date: 6/19/25 7:27 am From: 'Mark Peterson' via Colorado Birds <cobirds...> Subject: [cobirds] YELLOW-FOOTED/WESTERN GULL - Pueblo County
COBirders, There is/was a near-adult YF or Western GULL at the Pueblo Reservoir south marina tires this morning. I am trying to refind the bird but nothing yet. Other notables: Neotropic CormorantLaughing Gull (adult)Lesser Black-backed GullCaspian Tern
Mark PetersonColorado Springs
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In the past few days, two extremely rare birds have been found in SE Colorado.
The Cactus Wren is the 3rd state record. https://cobrc.org/Reports/SpeciesDetail.aspx?id=509 The first was in a Colorado Springs back yard in late March 2018, and the second was in late March last year in Otero Co.
The Brown Booby is the 2nd state record. The first was found in Left Hand Canyon, Boulder Co: https://cobrc.org/Reports/SpeciesDetail.aspx?id=504 The bird was taken to a rehabilitation center, but it died a little while later. Both these boobies were obviously seriously disorientated. If this bird is to survive, then it needs to quickly find a large reservoir such as Two Buttes reservoir to the NE or, possibly, John Martin reservoir some way to the N.
Cheers, Peter Gent. Chairman CBRC, Boulder.
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Date: 6/17/25 8:47 am From: <bay.wren...> Subject: [cobirds] Brown Booby NO
No longer present at the original site as of 930
Eric DeFonso Lafayette, CO Sent from the Aether
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Date: 6/15/25 11:28 am From: Robert Righter <rorighter...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Digest for - 1 update in 1 topic
Congrats to Joey and Nathan for locating a Cactus Wren. I remember the wren was first glimpsed about 40 years ago by Harold Holt and we all thought at the time he had gone nuts for making that call. So cincere apologies to Harold, where ever he may be.
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The Cactus Wren found yesterday by Joey Kellner continues at the corner of CR 193.5 north of Kim in Las Animas County (37.636408,-103.431881). I heard the bird sing from due east of the corner six or seven times at about 5:20 this morning and got an audio recording. It sounded like it was within 100 yards of the road but I couldn't see it. It then sounded like it moved farther east. I suspect the corner is near the west end of its area. Other people have arrived to search for the bird so hopefully they will manage to locate it. I searched the spot from 7:00 pm to sunset last night without any success.
Be advised that the mockingbird that sings persistently south of the corner has picked up some Cactus Wren song and can cause momentary confusion.
Nathan Pieplow Boulder
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