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11/22/24 12:29 pm Grace via groups.io <larwood...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Goose at Ballard Lake
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11/22/24 9:19 am Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...> [ALbirds] And a Bobcat at Harrison Lake
11/22/24 9:05 am Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...> [ALbirds] Snow Goose at Ballard Lake
11/21/24 7:21 pm Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/21/24 7:02 pm Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/21/24 6:42 pm Damien J. Simbeck via groups.io <tnbarredowl...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/21/24 4:41 pm Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/21/24 4:18 pm Rick Remy via groups.io <rickremy...> Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/21/24 4:06 pm Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> [ALbirds] Snow Geese
11/18/24 3:45 pm Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
11/16/24 6:02 pm <swmavocet...> via groups.io <swmavocet...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/16/24 7:34 am Jud Johnston via groups.io <egrosbeak1946...> Re: [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
11/16/24 6:48 am Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...> [ALbirds] Winter bird influx
11/15/24 1:59 pm Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 1:53 pm john cole via groups.io <johnb_cole...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 12:18 pm Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 12:07 pm Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 12:02 pm Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 11:58 am Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...> Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/15/24 11:55 am Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...> [ALbirds] Bird ID please
11/14/24 4:17 pm Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...> Re: [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
11/14/24 3:42 pm Jud Johnston via groups.io <egrosbeak1946...> [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
11/14/24 6:48 am Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...> [ALbirds] Speaker Series: The Amazing Sounds of Birds
11/8/24 9:19 am Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> Re: [ALbirds] Piebald Robin at Limestone Park this morning
11/8/24 8:59 am Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...> [ALbirds] Piebald Robin at Limestone Park this morning
11/7/24 5:35 am Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...> Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
11/7/24 5:08 am Greg D. Jackson via groups.io <g_d_jackson...> Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
11/6/24 3:22 pm Douglas Hamm via groups.io <dhamm72...> Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
11/6/24 3:02 pm Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...> [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
11/4/24 2:53 pm Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...> [ALbirds] Late migrants continue
11/2/24 7:55 am Greg D. Jackson via groups.io <g_d_jackson...> [ALbirds] Revised AOS Field Checklist
10/27/24 10:54 am Donald Dehm via groups.io <donalddehm...> [ALbirds] Possible Shiny Cowbird Foley/Bon Secour AL
 
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Date: 11/22/24 12:29 pm
From: Grace via groups.io <larwood...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Goose at Ballard Lake
 

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Date: 11/22/24 12:22 pm
From: Rhett Gibson via groups.io <rhett.gibson...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Goose at Ballard Lake
Where is Harrison Lake? I'm having trouble locating it.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:05 AM Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass=
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> There was a Snow Goose at Ballard lake this morning .
> It was hanging out with the Mute Swans
> ( 8 ) .
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Date: 11/22/24 9:19 am
From: Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...>
Subject: [ALbirds] And a Bobcat at Harrison Lake
There was also a Bobcat hunting in the wet grass on the north side of Harrison Lake .
That was around 10 am .
He stopped and was intent on something and pounced .
But did not get anything . I tried whistling but he did not look my way .
There were a few Sparrows in the tall grass .


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Date: 11/22/24 9:05 am
From: Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Snow Goose at Ballard Lake
There was a Snow Goose at Ballard lake this morning .
It was hanging out with the Mute Swans
( 8 ) .


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Date: 11/21/24 7:21 pm
From: Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
There are a couple of smaller birds in the photo. The smallest one is that last one on the right, and I would probably just call it Ross's out here and not think twice. Looking closer at the photo, I don't see anything to suggest the neck is shorter (Ross's has a shorter neck) though.

Were they vocal because the two species sound different (although Ross's tends to be much less vocal than Snow)?


Thanks,

Jim

James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
Professor and Executive Vice Chair
Department of Emergency Medicine
UC Davis School of Medicine
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From: <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> on behalf of Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 7:02 PM
To: <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese

It does appear significantly smaller, and the black seems to extend farther than it does with the obvious Snow Geese. Is that a consistent field mark?

Larry Gardella
Daphne

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 8:42 PM Damien J. Simbeck via groups.io<http://groups.io/> <tnbarredowl...><mailto:<aol.com...>> wrote:
Looking at your photo, the last bird in the lead line (last and lowest bird in the right side line) looks small. Ross's?

Damien Simbeck
Killen AL

Sent from my (non-Apple) phone. You can teach an old dog new tricks!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 6:06 PM, Lawrence Gardella via groups.io<http://groups.io/>
<lfgardella...><mailto:<gmail.com...>> wrote:
When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying in formation. I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow Geese this morning in Wilcox County. There apparently was a major movement.

Larry Gardella
Daphne


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Date: 11/21/24 7:02 pm
From: Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
It does appear significantly smaller, and the black seems to extend farther
than it does with the obvious Snow Geese. Is that a consistent field mark?

Larry Gardella
Daphne

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 8:42 PM Damien J. Simbeck via groups.io <tnbarredowl=
<aol.com...> wrote:

> Looking at your photo, the last bird in the lead line (last and lowest
> bird in the right side line) looks small. Ross's?
>
> Damien Simbeck
> Killen AL
>
> Sent from my (non-Apple) phone. You can teach an old dog new tricks!
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 6:06 PM, Lawrence Gardella via groups.io
> <lfgardella...> wrote:
> When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we
> heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying
> in formation. I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow
> Geese this morning in Wilcox County. There apparently was a major movement.
>
> Larry Gardella
> Daphne
>
>
>


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Date: 11/21/24 6:42 pm
From: Damien J. Simbeck via groups.io <tnbarredowl...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
Looking at your photo, the last bird in the lead line (last and lowest bird in the right side line) looks small. Ross's?

Damien Simbeck
Killen AL

Sent from my (non-Apple) phone. You can teach an old dog new tricks!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 6:06 PM, Lawrence Gardella via groups.io<lfgardella...> wrote: When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying in formation.  I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow Geese this morning in Wilcox County.  There apparently was a major movement.
Larry GardellaDaphne


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Date: 11/21/24 4:41 pm
From: Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
If they are moving that much look for greater white-fronted both as skeins but also as a few mixed in with snows. And no Ebird reviewers will not accept 3 seemed smaller so adding Ross's....

Cheers,

Drew Haffenden
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From: <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> on behalf of Rick Remy via groups.io <rickremy...>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 6:18:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese

Apparently this front caused a lot of movement. Lake Purdy is very low right now but this morning it had 17 Green-winged Teal, a pair of Lesser Scaup, 4 Bufflehead, 4 American Coot, and a ring-billed Gull

On Nov 21, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> wrote:


When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying in formation. I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow Geese this morning in Wilcox County. There apparently was a major movement.

Larry Gardella
Daphne
<1I2A7431 - Snow Geese 11 21 2024.JPG>



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Date: 11/21/24 4:18 pm
From: Rick Remy via groups.io <rickremy...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
Apparently this front caused a lot of movement. Lake Purdy is very low right now but this morning it had 17 Green-winged Teal, a pair of Lesser Scaup, 4 Bufflehead, 4 American Coot, and a ring-billed Gull

On Nov 21, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...> wrote:


When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying in formation. I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow Geese this morning in Wilcox County. There apparently was a major movement.

Larry Gardella
Daphne

<1I2A7431 - Snow Geese 11 21 2024.JPG>


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Date: 11/21/24 4:06 pm
From: Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Snow Geese
When Greg and I were walking near the wall at Fort Morgan this morning, we
heard barking above us and looked up to see at least 120 Snow Geese flying
in formation. I later learned that Tom Moorman saw a flock of 180 Snow
Geese this morning in Wilcox County. There apparently was a major movement.

Larry Gardella
Daphne


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Date: 11/18/24 3:45 pm
From: Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
One more note on Black Scoters. There have been groups of them offshore by
Bayfront most, if not all, this month. It seems to me that a higher
percentage of the Black Scoters I have been seeing this season as opposed
to past years are adult males. Has anyone else observed this?

Larry Gardella
Daphne

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:35 AM Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io
<RobertADuncan...> wrote:

> Hi Greg and all,
>
> Very similar history. Has there been any study as to why? There's a
> Master's thesis waiting for someone to do!
>
> Bob
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 07:08:20 AM CST, Greg D. Jackson <
> <g_d_jackson...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bob and all,
>
>
>
> That’s an amazing flight, far exceeding anything reported so far in
> Alabama. The maximum for the Alabama coast is 175 in late October 2022,
> with the second highest count of 135 in mid-December of that year. There is
> a tendency for the late fall-early winter period of certain years to have
> large flights noted on the outer coast.
>
>
>
> Earliest Black Scoters on record in Alabama are 25 Oct (both at the coast
> and the Tenn. Valley).
>
>
>
> Prior to 1970 there were only five coastal AL reports, 17 by 1980, 37 by
> 1990, and 52 by 2000. Highest count prior to 2000 was 77 (1994). Since
> 2000, and particularly since 2012, there has been a significant increase in
> coastal reports and numbers of individuals, with the highest counts
> occurring since 2015.
>
>
>
> Inland the species is rare with most reports from the Tenn. Valley as
> would be expected. We have just under 50 inland records, though these are
> not as clearly weighted toward the last decade.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> Greg D. Jackson
>
> AOS Bird Records Compiler
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> *On Behalf Of *Lucy & Bob
> Email
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2024 5:01 PM
> *To:* Nflbirds <nflbirds...>; Albirds <albirds...>
> *Subject:* [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Yesterday Brian Cammarano counted 658 Black Scoters flying W out in the
> Gulf from Ft. Pickens When F. M. Weston's booklet was published in 1965
> there were only TWO records for the area since 1916. Of course there were
> not many birders around during that period and optics were not the best and
> it cost a valuable payment to cross the beach bridge, but there was a cadre
> of "bird watchers" extant by the 1960's, but we were still not finding
> scoters of any species in any numbers.
>
>
>
> By the time our booklet "The Birds of Escambia, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa
> Counties" was published in 2000 the maximum recorded skyrocketed to 80 in
> 1987. By 2018 when our 2nd edition was published it had jumped to 223 in
> 2016.
>
>
>
> So what's going on with this quantum leap in Black Scoter numbers in
> recent years? Are food resources scarce in recent years along the Atlantic
> coast where they usually winter so that they are forced to look for new
> wintering productive habitat? Their primary food in winter in salt water is
> mussels, followed by crustaceans. So since they are now wintering here and
> also to the W of us (Chandeleur Islands, Texas coast?) they must be finding
> sufficient food each year. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Bob Duncan
>
> Gulf Breeze, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Lucy and Bob Duncan
> Gulf Breeze, Florida
>
>
> --
> Lucy and Bob Duncan
> Gulf Breeze, Florida
>
>
>


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Date: 11/16/24 6:02 pm
From: <swmavocet...> via groups.io <swmavocet...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
Palm Warbler.  Yellow undertail is a dead give away ....and it probably wagged its tail?   Steve Mc
On Friday, November 15, 2024 at 01:55:53 PM CST, Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...> wrote:

This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized. Help!  Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL



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Date: 11/16/24 7:34 am
From: Jud Johnston via groups.io <egrosbeak1946...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
Irrelevant now as the tree has been cut and the remains of the nest
scattered.

Jud Johnston
Waynesboro, TN

On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:16 PM Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew=
<natsp.com...> wrote:

> Jud the Golden and Bald Eagle Protection covers this. Disturbing - there's
> more specific terms used in saying what disturbing is - an active Bald
> Eagle nest is illegal. Importantly the Act includes this as Disturbing: "In addition
> to immediate impacts, this definition also covers effects that result from
> human-induced alterations initiated around a previously used nest site
> during a time when eagles are not present, if, upon the eagle's return,
> such alterations agitate or bother an eagle to a degree that interferes
> with or interrupts normal breeding, feeding, or sheltering habits, and
> causes injury, death or nest abandonment"
>
> The possible area of interpretation is interfering in normal refers to the
> pair or that specific nest. That is, if the pair build another nest and use
> it to produce a clutch in the same season have the eagles been disturbed to
> the degree required? "Interrupts" may also come into play.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Drew Haffenden
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> on behalf of Jud Johnston
> via groups.io <egrosbeak1946...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2024 5:42:09 PM
> *To:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...>
> *Subject:* [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
>
> How can this be allowed to happen? Supposedly Hughston Homes has a permit
> from Fish and Wildlife to destroy an active bald eagle nest just north of
> Auburn for a housing development. From WRBL in Columbus.
>
> Jud Johnston
> Waynesboro, TN
>
>
>


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Date: 11/16/24 6:48 am
From: Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Winter bird influx
Eating breakfast outside this cool but bright morning when a single very high pitched zeEEee came from a tree. Waxwing! A couple of minutes later 15 or so flew into the pines and oaks. Three minutes later a couple of "chucks" then about 20 robins arrived. Winter birding has begun!

Cheers,

Drew Haffenden


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Date: 11/15/24 1:59 pm
From: Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
Thanks for all your help. I agree. I wasn't there, but it seems to be
smaller than my wife thought, and I am not used to seeing them from the
underside....Jon

On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 3:53 PM john cole via groups.io <johnb_cole=
<yahoo.com...> wrote:

> Jon, the Sibley Guide shows all of the descriptions shown above including
> subspecies.
>
> John Cole
> Columbus GA
>
>
>
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_>
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2024, 3:17 PM, Drew Haffenden <andrew...>
> wrote:
>
> Jon, Palm Warbler. The combination of yellow vent and white undertail is
> only seen in Palm Warbler. When you consider that standard house bricks are
> about 2.5” high you can see this bird is warbler sized.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Drew Haffenden
>
>
>
> *From:* <ALbirds...> <ALbirds...> *On Behalf Of *Jon Yoder
> via groups.io
> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2024 1:54 PM
> *To:* <ALbirds...>
> *Subject:* [ALbirds] Bird ID please
>
>
>
> This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure
> out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I
> can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized.
> Help! Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Date: 11/15/24 1:53 pm
From: john cole via groups.io <johnb_cole...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
Jon, the Sibley Guide shows all of the descriptions shown above including subspecies.
John ColeColumbus GA
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Jon, Palm Warbler. The combination of yellow vent and white undertail is only seen in Palm Warbler. When you consider that standard house bricks are about 2.5” high you can see this bird is warbler sized.

 

Cheers

 

Drew Haffenden

 

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This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized. Help!  Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL

 







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Date: 11/15/24 12:18 pm
From: Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
Jon, Palm Warbler. The combination of yellow vent and white undertail is only seen in Palm Warbler. When you consider that standard house bricks are about 2.5" high you can see this bird is warbler sized.

Cheers

Drew Haffenden

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This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized. Help! Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL




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Date: 11/15/24 12:07 pm
From: Jim Holmes via groups.io <jfholmes...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
I am not aware of any size difference between Eastern (S. palmarum hypochrysea) and Western (S. palmarum palmarum) Palm Warblers and Birds of the World does not suggest any differences in size in the two subspecies.

Both subspecies are regular in Alabama.

Thanks,

Jim

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UC Davis School of Medicine
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Are they bigger than palm warblers that we have, because this bird was definitely bigger than those? We have plenty of palm warblers around here. Jon

On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 1:58 PM Jim Holmes via groups.io<http://groups.io/> <jfholmes...><mailto:<ucdavis.edu...>> wrote:
Palm Warbler (Western)

Thanks,

Jim

James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
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This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized. Help! Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL

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Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
Are they bigger than palm warblers that we have, because this bird was
definitely bigger than those? We have plenty of palm warblers around here.
Jon

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Date: 11/15/24 11:58 am
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Palm Warbler (Western)

Thanks,

Jim

James F. Holmes, MD, MPH
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This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized. Help! Jon Yoder, Atmore, AL


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Date: 11/15/24 11:55 am
From: Jon Yoder via groups.io <jonyoder57...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Bird ID please
This bird temporarily got disoriented in our garage and couldn't figure out
how to get out. My wife got some good photos, but for the life of me, I
can't ID it. It was from bluebird to mockingbird size, not warbler sized.
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Date: 11/14/24 4:17 pm
From: Drew Haffenden via groups.io <andrew...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
Jud the Golden and Bald Eagle Protection covers this. Disturbing - there's more specific terms used in saying what disturbing is - an active Bald Eagle nest is illegal. Importantly the Act includes this as Disturbing: "In addition to immediate impacts, this definition also covers effects that result from human-induced alterations initiated around a previously used nest site during a time when eagles are not present, if, upon the eagle's return, such alterations agitate or bother an eagle to a degree that interferes with or interrupts normal breeding, feeding, or sheltering habits, and causes injury, death or nest abandonment"

The possible area of interpretation is interfering in normal refers to the pair or that specific nest. That is, if the pair build another nest and use it to produce a clutch in the same season have the eagles been disturbed to the degree required? "Interrupts" may also come into play.

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How can this be allowed to happen? Supposedly Hughston Homes has a permit from Fish and Wildlife to destroy an active bald eagle nest just north of Auburn for a housing development. From WRBL in Columbus.

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Date: 11/14/24 3:42 pm
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Subject: [ALbirds] Active Bald Eagle Nest to be Destroyed in Auburn
How can this be allowed to happen? Supposedly Hughston Homes has a permit
from Fish and Wildlife to destroy an active bald eagle nest just north of
Auburn for a housing development. From WRBL in Columbus.

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Date: 11/14/24 6:48 am
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Subject: [ALbirds] Speaker Series: The Amazing Sounds of Birds
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Date: 11/8/24 9:19 am
From: Lawrence Gardella via groups.io <lfgardella...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Piebald Robin at Limestone Park this morning
Joe,

This is a partially leucistic American Robin, not a Pied Thrush. Birds of
many species will show colors partially replaced by white, and I believe
this is particularly true for American Robins.

Larry Gardella
Daphne

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> I observed a Piebald Robin this morning at Limestone Park !
> It was mixed in with a large flock of Robins . Probably hundred or more .
> It was in the fields on the north side of the entrance road . The area
> that was recently bush hogged .
> I could not find a description for a Pied Robin in the Ebird rare bird
> list , so I used Pied Thrush . Any thoughts how this should be classified ?
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Date: 11/8/24 8:59 am
From: Joe Wujcik via groups.io <yckmass...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Piebald Robin at Limestone Park this morning
I observed a Piebald Robin this morning at Limestone Park !
It was mixed in with a large flock of Robins . Probably hundred or more .
It was in the fields on the north side of the entrance road . The area that was recently bush hogged .
I could not find a description for a Pied Robin in the Ebird rare bird list , so I used Pied Thrush . Any thoughts how this should be classified ?
Pictures to follow :


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Date: 11/7/24 5:35 am
From: Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
Hi Greg and all,
Very similar history. Has there been any study as to why? There's a Master's thesis waiting for someone to do!
Bob
On Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 07:08:20 AM CST, Greg D. Jackson <g_d_jackson...> wrote:


Hi Bob and all,

 

That’s an amazing flight, far exceeding anything reported so far in Alabama. The maximum for the Alabama coast is 175 in late October 2022, with the second highest count of 135 in mid-December of that year. There is a tendency for the late fall-early winter period of certain years to have large flights noted on the outer coast.

 

Earliest Black Scoters on record in Alabama are 25 Oct (both at the coast and the Tenn. Valley).

 

Prior to 1970 there were only five coastal AL reports, 17 by 1980, 37 by 1990, and 52 by 2000. Highest count prior to 2000 was 77 (1994). Since 2000, and particularly since 2012, there has been a significant increase in coastal reports and numbers of individuals, with the highest counts occurring since 2015.

 

Inland the species is rare with most reports from the Tenn. Valley as would be expected. We have just under 50 inland records, though these are not as clearly weighted toward the last decade.

 

Greg

 

 

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Subject: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status

 

Hi all,

 

Yesterday Brian Cammarano counted 658 Black Scoters flying W out in the Gulf from Ft. Pickens When F. M. Weston's booklet was published in 1965 there were only TWO records for the area since 1916. Of course there were not many birders around during that period and optics were not the best and it cost a valuable payment to cross the beach bridge, but there was a cadre of "bird watchers" extant by the 1960's, but we were still not finding scoters of any species in any numbers. 

 

By the time our booklet "The Birds of Escambia, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa Counties" was published in 2000 the maximum recorded skyrocketed to 80 in 1987. By 2018 when our 2nd edition was published it had jumped to 223 in 2016.

 

So what's going on with this quantum leap in Black Scoter numbers in recent years? Are food resources scarce in recent years along the Atlantic coast where they usually winter so that they are forced to look for new wintering productive habitat? Their primary food in winter in salt water is mussels, followed by crustaceans. So since they are now wintering here and also to the W of us (Chandeleur Islands, Texas coast?) they must be finding sufficient food each year. Any thoughts?

 

Bob Duncan

Gulf Breeze, FL

 

 


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Date: 11/7/24 5:08 am
From: Greg D. Jackson via groups.io <g_d_jackson...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
Hi Bob and all,



That’s an amazing flight, far exceeding anything reported so far in Alabama. The maximum for the Alabama coast is 175 in late October 2022, with the second highest count of 135 in mid-December of that year. There is a tendency for the late fall-early winter period of certain years to have large flights noted on the outer coast.



Earliest Black Scoters on record in Alabama are 25 Oct (both at the coast and the Tenn. Valley).



Prior to 1970 there were only five coastal AL reports, 17 by 1980, 37 by 1990, and 52 by 2000. Highest count prior to 2000 was 77 (1994). Since 2000, and particularly since 2012, there has been a significant increase in coastal reports and numbers of individuals, with the highest counts occurring since 2015.



Inland the species is rare with most reports from the Tenn. Valley as would be expected. We have just under 50 inland records, though these are not as clearly weighted toward the last decade.



Greg





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Subject: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status



Hi all,



Yesterday Brian Cammarano counted 658 Black Scoters flying W out in the Gulf from Ft. Pickens When F. M. Weston's booklet was published in 1965 there were only TWO records for the area since 1916. Of course there were not many birders around during that period and optics were not the best and it cost a valuable payment to cross the beach bridge, but there was a cadre of "bird watchers" extant by the 1960's, but we were still not finding scoters of any species in any numbers.



By the time our booklet "The Birds of Escambia, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa Counties" was published in 2000 the maximum recorded skyrocketed to 80 in 1987. By 2018 when our 2nd edition was published it had jumped to 223 in 2016.



So what's going on with this quantum leap in Black Scoter numbers in recent years? Are food resources scarce in recent years along the Atlantic coast where they usually winter so that they are forced to look for new wintering productive habitat? Their primary food in winter in salt water is mussels, followed by crustaceans. So since they are now wintering here and also to the W of us (Chandeleur Islands, Texas coast?) they must be finding sufficient food each year. Any thoughts?



Bob Duncan

Gulf Breeze, FL






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Date: 11/6/24 3:22 pm
From: Douglas Hamm via groups.io <dhamm72...>
Subject: Re: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
I got a group of 10 at Lake Shelby last Friday. This is farand away the earliest I have seen them, although I have only lived here for threeyears. The earliest I had ever seen them before was Dec. 9. Also, my high countbefore this was five birds and most often it was only one or two. While this isfar from 658 birds, it did seem unusual to me based on the last three years.
Douglas HammGulf Shores

On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 05:02:32 PM CST, Lucy & Bob Email <robertaduncan...> wrote:

Hi all,
Yesterday Brian Cammarano counted 658 Black Scoters flying W out in the Gulf from Ft. Pickens. When F. M. Weston's booklet was published in 1965 there were only TWO records for the area since 1916. Of course there were not many birders around during that period and optics were not the best and it cost a valuable payment to cross the beach bridge, but there was a cadre of "bird watchers" extant by the 1960's, but we were still not finding scoters of any species in any numbers. 
By the time our booklet "The Birds of Escambia, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa Counties" was published in 2000 the maximum recorded skyrocketed to 80 in 1987. By 2018 when our 2nd edition was published it had jumped to 223 in 2016.
So what's going on with this quantum leap in Black Scoter numbers in recent years? Are food resources scarce in recent years along the Atlantic coast where they usually winter so that they are forced to look for new wintering productive habitat? Their primary food in winter in salt water is mussels, followed by crustaceans. So since they are now wintering here and also to the W of us (Chandeleur Islands, Texas coast?) they must be finding sufficient food each year. Any thoughts?
Bob DuncanGulf Breeze, FL


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Date: 11/6/24 3:02 pm
From: Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Black Scoter status
Hi all,
Yesterday Brian Cammarano counted 658 Black Scoters flying W out in the Gulf from Ft. Pickens. When F. M. Weston's booklet was published in 1965 there were only TWO records for the area since 1916. Of course there were not many birders around during that period and optics were not the best and it cost a valuable payment to cross the beach bridge, but there was a cadre of "bird watchers" extant by the 1960's, but we were still not finding scoters of any species in any numbers. 
By the time our booklet "The Birds of Escambia, Santa Rosa and Okaloosa Counties" was published in 2000 the maximum recorded skyrocketed to 80 in 1987. By 2018 when our 2nd edition was published it had jumped to 223 in 2016.
So what's going on with this quantum leap in Black Scoter numbers in recent years? Are food resources scarce in recent years along the Atlantic coast where they usually winter so that they are forced to look for new wintering productive habitat? Their primary food in winter in salt water is mussels, followed by crustaceans. So since they are now wintering here and also to the W of us (Chandeleur Islands, Texas coast?) they must be finding sufficient food each year. Any thoughts?
Bob DuncanGulf Breeze, FL



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Date: 11/4/24 2:53 pm
From: Lucy & Bob Email via groups.io <RobertADuncan...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Late migrants continue
Hi all,
Reports from Dean & Sally Jue from Tallahassee, another from Cantonment about 20 mi N of Pensacola and from what we have had in our yard today and yesterday (5 thrushes of 3 spp and other passerine migrants) indicate unusual numbers of late migrants still coming through. I suggest they were delayed in their normal progress by Hurricane Helene which drenched the Appalachians during the height of Fall migration. With this strong E influence we have had for about a week, I suggest they are reaching the coast and then moving W to LA and crossing the Gulf from there or making a complete circum-Gulf transit to the tropics. Hopefully they will NOT attempt a direct movement with the storm headed toward the Yucatan Channel tomorrow.

Bob DuncanGulf Breeze, FL


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Date: 11/2/24 7:55 am
From: Greg D. Jackson via groups.io <g_d_jackson...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Revised AOS Field Checklist
AL Birders:



Recently I updated the AOS Field Checklist to incorporate the taxonomic
revisions in the 65th Supplement of the American Ornithological Society's
Check-list of North American Birds. The new version also includes decisions
of the Alabama Bird Records Committee through October. The official species
count for the state now stands at 455.



Joe Watts has placed the revised checklist on the AOS website. You can
download a PDF from this page:



<https://www.aosbirds.org/alabama-birding/checklist-of-alabama-birds/>
Checklist of Alabama Birds | Alabama Ornithological Society



Thanks,



Greg





Greg D. Jackson

AOS Bird Records Compiler



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Date: 10/27/24 10:54 am
From: Donald Dehm via groups.io <donalddehm...>
Subject: [ALbirds] Possible Shiny Cowbird Foley/Bon Secour AL
Good day all,

We have had a Shiny Cowbird calling numerous times for about five days. It
calls throughout the day and can be heard with our maa as my number of
Brown-Headed Cowbirds.

We think it is a juvenile or female as the adult males (even this time of
year) would be highly noticeable compared to the BHC.

I have attached a couple of photos of what I believe to be the suspect
Shiny. Can anyone’s help confirm that this is the bird in question, a Shiny
Cowbird?

We have multiple Bronzed at feeders this time of year, and have had Merlin
“ID” a Shiny once or twice in the past, but this time the bird is clearly
here by sound, but visually identifiable is proving to be the tricky thing.

Thank you,

Donald Dehm


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