Date: 9/4/26 8:45 am From: silverbirder via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Passing through
A female Western Tanager and Black-headed Grosbeak stopped at our willow woods bird bath as they were migrating south for the winter. Also our Townsend Warblers have shown back up for the winter down here on The Land in Royal Oaks, CA.Happy Birding, Laura and Betty
Date: 9/1/26 8:44 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Black & White Images: Great-horned Owl
Hi birders,
This evening two of the local GREAT-HORNED OWLS visited shortly after
sunset. One posed long enough, for what might as well be a series of
black and white of photos of these great birds. The owl was back lit by
the already set sun. Three fairly dark image links for your perusal:
Is this art? Hardly, but doesn't matter I think. Just a fun set of images.
(For those curious about the technical details... camera: Sony A1 alpha
(first generation), lens: Sony 600mm G zoom lens, ss 1/125, fstop f6.3,
ISO 1600 and 3200. Post processing: cropping and very limited light
adjustments with Photoshop 2026, noise reduction with DeNoize AI 3.7.2
low light model.)
Date: 8/30/26 4:31 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Fun with Yellowlegs and the Baird's Sandpiper
Hi birders,
A bunch of yellowlegs and the Baird's Sandpiper continued, at Pajaro
Dunes - Shorebirds Pond, Sunday morning. At one point, was able to
photograph 12? Yellowlegs together. For fun, you can try to count them
here, in a very large photo:
We are experiencing a big irruption of Red-breasted nuthatches this summer
in the region.
They are usually rare in San Francisco, but we’ve been getting daily
reports for several weeks here. Multiple birds are being seen on the
farralones, outer point Reyes, and even on boats dozens of miles offshore.
Dominik
On Sun, Aug 30, 2026 at 06:27 Phil Brown <pdpbrown...> wrote:
Date: 8/30/26 6:27 am From: Phil Brown <pdpbrown...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Red-breasted Nuthatch
We heard one on yesterday's club walk on the south side of delaveaga,
Phil
On Sun, Aug 30, 2026, 04:49 Carol Pecot <carol.pecot...> wrote:
> I heard the characteristic call of the Red-breasted Nuthatch yesterday
> (the sound of backing up heavy machinery). We have a lot of Pygmy
> Nuthatches, but didn’t see the Red-breasted. Has anyone else heard or seen
> one?
> Carol Pecot
> Above Soquel
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Date: 8/30/26 4:49 am From: Carol Pecot <carol.pecot...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Red-breasted Nuthatch
I heard the characteristic call of the Red-breasted Nuthatch yesterday (the sound of backing up heavy machinery). We have a lot of Pygmy Nuthatches, but didn’t see the Red-breasted. Has anyone else heard or seen one?
Carol Pecot
Above Soquel
Date: 8/24/26 6:07 pm From: silverbirder via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] First of the fall season
Two Townsend Warbler showed up to our bird bath today August 24, the first of the fall season down here on The Land in Royal Oaks, CA Happy birding Betty and Laura
Date: 8/22/26 10:28 am From: Abram Fleishman <abfleishman...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Lighthouse Field
This morning there was an early taste of migration with a Willow Flycatcher, Grasshopper Sparrow, Northern Yellow Warbler, and a flock of Savannah Sparrows, all of which are not summer birds at Lighthouse Field. There were also several Munia now regulars at the site.
Date: 8/20/26 7:43 pm From: Jg Deva <grrrrrrrrrr8...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] At least 1/4 mile whirl pool of birds 1/2 mile out
Looks like s. Shearwaters very low to the water but when the get across from the river mouth the leaders move to the back. Making it circling birds staying over the same area, thousands Sent from my iPhone
Great photo! And how fantastic you get to see it without leaving your
chair! Best wishes for a speedy recovery, and happy birding!
On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 12:15 PM Barbara Monahan <monahan...> wrote:
> He?She? Is still here.
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Date: 8/19/26 11:13 am From: Phil Brown <pdpbrown...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Pelagic out of Morro Bay
A bit out of area, but nonetheless posting for Reef Comer.:
I’m setting up a deepwater pelagic out of Morro Bay on Thursday, August
27th! I’ve attached the sign up flyer, but would you be so kind as to post
it to the local Santa Cruz list serve? Trying to drum up some interest in
my old stomping grounds. There are five spots still available.
Please note this is a new domain website, to which I’m migrating from my previous website. The new “creagrus.com” has all the old material from the old site, as well as new and updated pages.
I very much appreciate the Monterey County bird photographers whose works are shown on this new page.
Date: 8/16/26 2:05 pm From: 'cdlou37' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: RE: [MBBIRDS] Arctic Tern - end of wharf 10:15 (sunday)
2:00pm Sunday. Arctic Tern at lagoon by cliffs. On little island.Calvin LouSFSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Matthew McKown <matthew.mckown...> Date: 8/16/26 10:23 AM (GMT-08:00) To: MBB Bay Birds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Arctic Tern - end of wharf 10:15 (sunday) Hi, just a note that the (a?) Arctic Tern just flew by just off the end of the SC Wharf at 10:15 ( Aug 16).It's staying close foraging on both sides of the wharf.Thought I'd missed it!Best,Matthew
Date: 8/16/26 12:01 pm From: Nico Schnack <nicoprezles...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Spotting scope up for grabs
Howdy all,
Looking for someone to give my old spotting scope to - it’s a Celestron
trailseeker with an angled eyepiece, have had it for a while but still good
quality.
Date: 8/15/26 7:27 pm From: David Apgar <d_apgar...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Sooties off the wharf
Sooty shearwater in the tens of thousands have a good sunset to run against today from Main and Twin Lakes Beaches around the Bay toward Aptos. David Apgar
Date: 8/15/26 10:43 am From: Barbara Monahan <monahan...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] RECR and Black-throated Gray
All,
Red Crossbill female/juvenile type on my deck this morning. I’ve just had my third back surgery in 3 years so I only bird from my chair near a window. Yesterday a Black-throated Gray, BTYW came by for a visit.
Anyone can find fun birds, even a in chair.
I believe my back is finally better but I will never be able to go thru a metal detector again. My hope is for continued improvement and be able to join everyone in the field soon.
Barbara Monahan
At 1100’ ft. Off of Jarvis Rd., near ScottsValley.
A short message to let you know that on Sunday we are operating a pelagic out of Monterey. Conditions offshore in the state have been quite unusual this year with lots of warm water, and offshore species coming closer to shore than normal. Currently the offshore weather buoy is detecting a temperature of 63.5 F, which is quite high. Lots of unusual birds have been seen recently, including a Streaked Shearwater in SF county yesterday, Guadalupe Murrelet, Cook's Petrels and Leach's Storm Petrels on Sunday, on a San Mateo/San Francisco trip. We are eager to see what is offshore from Monterey next Sunday. Here is the link to book the trip:
Date: 8/11/26 6:45 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] A breeding bird report conundrum...
Thanks for the response and reference Kyan. Very helpful.
I've updated the list per the info you sent.
Appreciated,
Pete
On 8/11/26 6:02 PM, Kyan Russell wrote:
> CBA produced an excellent tool for this situation! Type in the species
> and it will show you what codes are appropriate - for example, a Great
> Blue Heron does not sing. Plugging in the cowbird, we see the following:
>
> "Cowbirds do not feed their young. Use FL for cowbird when fledgling
> observed being fed (host species doing the feeding can be coded as FY)."
> https://codecheck.californiabirdatlas.org/bnhcow >
> Thus, code the Song Sparrow as FY, and the cowbird as FL.
>
> Happy atlasing!
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 5:52 PM 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds
> <mbbirds...> wrote:
>
> Hi birders,
>
> I find myself with a bit of a conundrum on how to code a
> "breeding" bird
> report on eBird. Perhaps the birding community can suggest a path
> forward.
>
> Background: Went to Lighthouse Field State Beach today, to look
> for the
> Eastern Kingbird that had been reported and photographed. I dipped on
> the Kingbird, but saw a poor Song Sparrow feeding a young
> Brown-headed
> Cowbird. The question is, how should I report the breeding
> activity for
> these two species?
>
> For now, I've coded the Song Sparrow as "Carrying Food" and the
> Brown-headed Cowbird as "Feeding Young", but I'm not sure that is
> correct. Fortunately, this little conundrum is not the end of the
> world,
> but still not sure how to proceed. For those curious, here is a
> link to
> the relevant eBird report with related photos attached, to the
> Cowbird
> list item.
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S382345183 >
> Your thoughts on the appropriate Breeding Behavior Codes for the
> sparrow
> and cowbird?
>
> Separately, there was a Scaly-breasted Munia in Lighthouse Field, the
> first I've ever seen at that location, as well a an adult female
> Hooded
> Oriole feeding a young Hooded Oriole.
>
> Pete Solé
>
> Visiting Lighthouse Field from Soquel CA
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Date: 8/11/26 6:02 pm From: Kyan Russell <kyansrussell...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] A breeding bird report conundrum...
CBA produced an excellent tool for this situation! Type in the species and
it will show you what codes are appropriate - for example, a Great Blue
Heron does not sing. Plugging in the cowbird, we see the following:
Thus, code the Song Sparrow as FY, and the cowbird as FL.
Happy atlasing!
On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 5:52 PM 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <
<mbbirds...> wrote:
> Hi birders,
>
> I find myself with a bit of a conundrum on how to code a "breeding" bird
> report on eBird. Perhaps the birding community can suggest a path forward.
>
> Background: Went to Lighthouse Field State Beach today, to look for the
> Eastern Kingbird that had been reported and photographed. I dipped on
> the Kingbird, but saw a poor Song Sparrow feeding a young Brown-headed
> Cowbird. The question is, how should I report the breeding activity for
> these two species?
>
> For now, I've coded the Song Sparrow as "Carrying Food" and the
> Brown-headed Cowbird as "Feeding Young", but I'm not sure that is
> correct. Fortunately, this little conundrum is not the end of the world,
> but still not sure how to proceed. For those curious, here is a link to
> the relevant eBird report with related photos attached, to the Cowbird
> list item.
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S382345183 >
> Your thoughts on the appropriate Breeding Behavior Codes for the sparrow
> and cowbird?
>
> Separately, there was a Scaly-breasted Munia in Lighthouse Field, the
> first I've ever seen at that location, as well a an adult female Hooded
> Oriole feeding a young Hooded Oriole.
>
> Pete Solé
>
> Visiting Lighthouse Field from Soquel CA
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Date: 8/11/26 5:52 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] A breeding bird report conundrum...
Hi birders,
I find myself with a bit of a conundrum on how to code a "breeding" bird
report on eBird. Perhaps the birding community can suggest a path forward.
Background: Went to Lighthouse Field State Beach today, to look for the
Eastern Kingbird that had been reported and photographed. I dipped on
the Kingbird, but saw a poor Song Sparrow feeding a young Brown-headed
Cowbird. The question is, how should I report the breeding activity for
these two species?
For now, I've coded the Song Sparrow as "Carrying Food" and the
Brown-headed Cowbird as "Feeding Young", but I'm not sure that is
correct. Fortunately, this little conundrum is not the end of the world,
but still not sure how to proceed. For those curious, here is a link to
the relevant eBird report with related photos attached, to the Cowbird
list item.
Your thoughts on the appropriate Breeding Behavior Codes for the sparrow
and cowbird?
Separately, there was a Scaly-breasted Munia in Lighthouse Field, the
first I've ever seen at that location, as well a an adult female Hooded
Oriole feeding a young Hooded Oriole.
Date: 8/10/26 1:39 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Loma Prieta quiet, but Peacock on the road... (photos)
Thanks Debbie,
What might be of interest was a nice note I received from R. Wallen. He
stated, and I agree with him, that my photos are likely of a second
year, not fully grown adult male. In the photos we "can see a lot of the
brown juvenile feathers sticking out". Also, the "peacock" feathers are
not fully grown.
I should also clarify that I saw the bird about 1/2 mile before
Casalegno's, according to the GPS coordinates of my phone (37°01'35.0"N
121°57'04.3"W). The bird was very close to Alfadel Lane, on the east
side of the road.
Pete
On 8/10/26 1:19 PM, Deborah Diersch wrote:
> Hi Pete,
>
> Thank you for the bird sightings and the photo of the peacock - that
> poor bird! It looks like someone plucked-off its gorgeous tail
> feathers. Maybe that is why whoever owns it keeps them - some vendors
> sell them at farmer's markets. I know of a ranch further up Old San
> Jose Soquel Road that used to have several peacocks, originally
> domestic, that escaped and are now living a relatively feral life, but
> I doubt that they would have been that far down by Casalegno's. The
> ones I used to see lived up at Webb's Farm Supply.
>
> Thanks again for your reports and photos.
> Debbie
> Aptos
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2026 at 12:25 PM 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds
> <mbbirds...> wrote:
>
> Hi birders,
>
> For some reason I decided yesterday, that a birding visit to Loma
> Prieta
> was on order. Loma Prieta was almost silent. The only consistently
> singing birds were Wrentits. Occasionally a Spotted Towhee, CA Scrub
> Jay, Lesser Goldfinch or N. Flicker called, but that was about it.
> Loma
> Prieta was warm and buggy, with not a flycatcher in sight. A few
> Violette-green Swallows foraged, but that was it for insect eaters. I
> guess I saw what I should have expected, given that the breeding
> season
> is mostly over. For full lists see:
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381631324 >
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381663192 >
> The only real surprise was on my way up. On Old Soquel San Jose Road,
> there was a male peacock (domestic Indian Peafowl), on the side of
> the
> road, about a mile before Casalegno's. Had to turn around and take
> a a
> few photos of this insane looking bird before continuing on:
>
> https://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/documentary/peafowl_indian_domestic_260809b.jpg >
> https://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/documentary/peafowl_indian_domestic_260809a.jpg >
> I have to believe that this is a domestic bird wandering about its
> home
> where it, and likely a few others live. I heard another one so,
> likely
> somebody's aviary birds, but worth an ebird list, well, because
> why not!
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381700536 >
> Fun birding,
>
> Pete Solé
>
> staring at domestic birds on the side of the road, near Soquel, CA
>
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Date: 8/10/26 1:19 pm From: Deborah Diersch <debbiediersch...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Loma Prieta quiet, but Peacock on the road... (photos)
Hi Pete,
Thank you for the bird sightings and the photo of the peacock - that poor
bird! It looks like someone plucked-off its gorgeous tail feathers. Maybe
that is why whoever owns it keeps them - some vendors sell them at farmer's
markets. I know of a ranch further up Old San Jose Soquel Road that used to
have several peacocks, originally domestic, that escaped and are now living
a relatively feral life, but I doubt that they would have been that far
down by Casalegno's. The ones I used to see lived up at Webb's Farm Supply.
Thanks again for your reports and photos.
Debbie
Aptos
On Sun, Aug 9, 2026 at 12:25 PM 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <
<mbbirds...> wrote:
> Hi birders,
>
> For some reason I decided yesterday, that a birding visit to Loma Prieta
> was on order. Loma Prieta was almost silent. The only consistently
> singing birds were Wrentits. Occasionally a Spotted Towhee, CA Scrub
> Jay, Lesser Goldfinch or N. Flicker called, but that was about it. Loma
> Prieta was warm and buggy, with not a flycatcher in sight. A few
> Violette-green Swallows foraged, but that was it for insect eaters. I
> guess I saw what I should have expected, given that the breeding season
> is mostly over. For full lists see:
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381631324 >
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381663192 >
> The only real surprise was on my way up. On Old Soquel San Jose Road,
> there was a male peacock (domestic Indian Peafowl), on the side of the
> road, about a mile before Casalegno's. Had to turn around and take a a
> few photos of this insane looking bird before continuing on:
>
>
> https://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/documentary/peafowl_indian_domestic_260809b.jpg >
>
> https://www.lighthousenet.com/photos/birds/documentary/peafowl_indian_domestic_260809a.jpg >
> I have to believe that this is a domestic bird wandering about its home
> where it, and likely a few others live. I heard another one so, likely
> somebody's aviary birds, but worth an ebird list, well, because why not!
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S381700536 >
> Fun birding,
>
> Pete Solé
>
> staring at domestic birds on the side of the road, near Soquel, CA
>
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Date: 8/9/26 12:25 pm From: 'Pete Sole' via mbbirds <mbbirds...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Loma Prieta quiet, but Peacock on the road... (photos)
Hi birders,
For some reason I decided yesterday, that a birding visit to Loma Prieta
was on order. Loma Prieta was almost silent. The only consistently
singing birds were Wrentits. Occasionally a Spotted Towhee, CA Scrub
Jay, Lesser Goldfinch or N. Flicker called, but that was about it. Loma
Prieta was warm and buggy, with not a flycatcher in sight. A few
Violette-green Swallows foraged, but that was it for insect eaters. I
guess I saw what I should have expected, given that the breeding season
is mostly over. For full lists see:
The only real surprise was on my way up. On Old Soquel San Jose Road,
there was a male peacock (domestic Indian Peafowl), on the side of the
road, about a mile before Casalegno's. Had to turn around and take a a
few photos of this insane looking bird before continuing on:
I have to believe that this is a domestic bird wandering about its home
where it, and likely a few others live. I heard another one so, likely
somebody's aviary birds, but worth an ebird list, well, because why not!
Date: 8/8/26 11:35 pm From: Lola Ross <lolabones...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Royal Tern?
Thanks, all! I appreciate the input from everyone. It’s no fun being wrong,
but I know it’s a great way to learn!
Immature ELTE it is!
On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 9:17 PM Kyan Russell <kyansrussell...> wrote:
> Looks like a juvenile Elegant Tern by size as Jeff pointed out. Royals are
> closer in size to Caspian. Also, young Elegants' bills start out short like
> Royal and get longer as they get older. Common Tern would be significantly
> smaller, with a thinner beak and different head and wing pattern.
>
> There seem to be quite a few Royals here in Monterey this week, so
> definitely keep checking!
>
> Happy birding,
> Kai
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:38 PM Jeff Manker <fireweed8...> wrote:
>
>> Lola,
>>
>> I am not an expert on terns either, but size alone would make me say it
>> is not a ROTE. Comparing it only to the birds that it is flying in front
>> of, it seems smaller than both of them. If it were a ROTE it would be close
>> to the size of the CATE and yet it appears smaller than the ELTE.
>>
>> Could it be a Common Tern?
>>
>> Jeff Manker
>> Alameda
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:05 PM Lola Ross <lolabones...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Brian Scanlon and I looked at a lot of terns on 21st Beach on Thursday,
>>> August 6 (nice meeting you and birding with you, Brian!). We found several
>>> candidates for the ROTE that had been spotted the day before, but we kept
>>> eliminating them as young ELTEs. However, going back through my photos
>>> today, there were a few birds that gave me pause, none more than this one.
>>> I’m talking about the one with open wings, landing in front of the CATE. I
>>> may be off, but to me it looks like there are a couple of good markers for
>>> ROTE, based on what I can find in Sibley, Merlin, and elsewhere online.
>>>
>>> 1. The darkness of the bill for what is clearly a juvenile/immature bird.
>>> 2. The gonydeal angle on the bill looks (to my eye) like it is more
>>> forward on the bill, closer to ⅔ of the way away from the base, which would
>>> be a possible indicator for ROTE.
>>> 3. The “obvious dark bars,” as Sibley says, on the wings.
>>>
>>> However, I know I am no expert, and I would appreciate a weigh-in before
>>> I add it to my eBird checklist for that outing. I don't want to rely on
>>> Merlin Photo ID (which also says this is a ROTE).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lola
>>>
>>
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Date: 8/8/26 10:41 pm From: Brian Scanlon <briancscanlon...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Royal Tern?
Sorry, Lola. I think that's another immature ELTE for all the reasons that
others gave.
Brian
On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:05 PM Lola Ross <lolabones...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Brian Scanlon and I looked at a lot of terns on 21st Beach on Thursday,
> August 6 (nice meeting you and birding with you, Brian!). We found several
> candidates for the ROTE that had been spotted the day before, but we kept
> eliminating them as young ELTEs. However, going back through my photos
> today, there were a few birds that gave me pause, none more than this one.
> I’m talking about the one with open wings, landing in front of the CATE. I
> may be off, but to me it looks like there are a couple of good markers for
> ROTE, based on what I can find in Sibley, Merlin, and elsewhere online.
>
> 1. The darkness of the bill for what is clearly a juvenile/immature bird.
> 2. The gonydeal angle on the bill looks (to my eye) like it is more
> forward on the bill, closer to ⅔ of the way away from the base, which would
> be a possible indicator for ROTE.
> 3. The “obvious dark bars,” as Sibley says, on the wings.
>
> However, I know I am no expert, and I would appreciate a weigh-in before I
> add it to my eBird checklist for that outing. I don't want to rely on
> Merlin Photo ID (which also says this is a ROTE).
>
> Thanks,
> Lola
>
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Date: 8/8/26 9:18 pm From: Kyan Russell <kyansrussell...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Royal Tern?
Looks like a juvenile Elegant Tern by size as Jeff pointed out. Royals are
closer in size to Caspian. Also, young Elegants' bills start out short like
Royal and get longer as they get older. Common Tern would be significantly
smaller, with a thinner beak and different head and wing pattern.
There seem to be quite a few Royals here in Monterey this week, so
definitely keep checking!
Happy birding,
Kai
On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:38 PM Jeff Manker <fireweed8...> wrote:
> Lola,
>
> I am not an expert on terns either, but size alone would make me say it is
> not a ROTE. Comparing it only to the birds that it is flying in front of,
> it seems smaller than both of them. If it were a ROTE it would be close to
> the size of the CATE and yet it appears smaller than the ELTE.
>
> Could it be a Common Tern?
>
> Jeff Manker
> Alameda
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:05 PM Lola Ross <lolabones...> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Brian Scanlon and I looked at a lot of terns on 21st Beach on Thursday,
>> August 6 (nice meeting you and birding with you, Brian!). We found several
>> candidates for the ROTE that had been spotted the day before, but we kept
>> eliminating them as young ELTEs. However, going back through my photos
>> today, there were a few birds that gave me pause, none more than this one.
>> I’m talking about the one with open wings, landing in front of the CATE. I
>> may be off, but to me it looks like there are a couple of good markers for
>> ROTE, based on what I can find in Sibley, Merlin, and elsewhere online.
>>
>> 1. The darkness of the bill for what is clearly a juvenile/immature bird.
>> 2. The gonydeal angle on the bill looks (to my eye) like it is more
>> forward on the bill, closer to ⅔ of the way away from the base, which would
>> be a possible indicator for ROTE.
>> 3. The “obvious dark bars,” as Sibley says, on the wings.
>>
>> However, I know I am no expert, and I would appreciate a weigh-in before
>> I add it to my eBird checklist for that outing. I don't want to rely on
>> Merlin Photo ID (which also says this is a ROTE).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lola
>>
>
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Date: 8/8/26 7:38 pm From: Jeff Manker <fireweed8...> Subject: Re: [MBBIRDS] Royal Tern?
Lola,
I am not an expert on terns either, but size alone would make me say it is
not a ROTE. Comparing it only to the birds that it is flying in front of,
it seems smaller than both of them. If it were a ROTE it would be close to
the size of the CATE and yet it appears smaller than the ELTE.
Could it be a Common Tern?
Jeff Manker
Alameda
On Sat, Aug 8, 2026 at 7:05 PM Lola Ross <lolabones...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Brian Scanlon and I looked at a lot of terns on 21st Beach on Thursday,
> August 6 (nice meeting you and birding with you, Brian!). We found several
> candidates for the ROTE that had been spotted the day before, but we kept
> eliminating them as young ELTEs. However, going back through my photos
> today, there were a few birds that gave me pause, none more than this one.
> I’m talking about the one with open wings, landing in front of the CATE. I
> may be off, but to me it looks like there are a couple of good markers for
> ROTE, based on what I can find in Sibley, Merlin, and elsewhere online.
>
> 1. The darkness of the bill for what is clearly a juvenile/immature bird.
> 2. The gonydeal angle on the bill looks (to my eye) like it is more
> forward on the bill, closer to ⅔ of the way away from the base, which would
> be a possible indicator for ROTE.
> 3. The “obvious dark bars,” as Sibley says, on the wings.
>
> However, I know I am no expert, and I would appreciate a weigh-in before I
> add it to my eBird checklist for that outing. I don't want to rely on
> Merlin Photo ID (which also says this is a ROTE).
>
> Thanks,
> Lola
>
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Date: 8/8/26 7:05 pm From: Lola Ross <lolabones...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Royal Tern?
Hi all,
Brian Scanlon and I looked at a lot of terns on 21st Beach on Thursday,
August 6 (nice meeting you and birding with you, Brian!). We found several
candidates for the ROTE that had been spotted the day before, but we kept
eliminating them as young ELTEs. However, going back through my photos
today, there were a few birds that gave me pause, none more than this one.
I’m talking about the one with open wings, landing in front of the CATE. I
may be off, but to me it looks like there are a couple of good markers for
ROTE, based on what I can find in Sibley, Merlin, and elsewhere online.
1. The darkness of the bill for what is clearly a juvenile/immature bird.
2. The gonydeal angle on the bill looks (to my eye) like it is more forward
on the bill, closer to ⅔ of the way away from the base, which would be a
possible indicator for ROTE.
3. The “obvious dark bars,” as Sibley says, on the wings.
However, I know I am no expert, and I would appreciate a weigh-in before I
add it to my eBird checklist for that outing. I don't want to rely on
Merlin Photo ID (which also says this is a ROTE).
Date: 8/8/26 6:58 pm From: Matthew Coale <matthewcoale02...> Subject: [MBBIRDS] Re: sooty Shearwtats Again
Sooty Shearwaters off the Harbor and whale activity beyond the Shearwaters. Sorry for the typos
Sent from my iPhone please excuse any spelling or typing errors.
Matthew
> On Aug 8, 2026, at 6:53 PM, Matthew Coale <matthewcoale02...> wrote:
>
> Right off the harbor extending down to Blacks point
> Matthew
> Sent from my iPhone please excuse any spelling or typing errors.
> Matthew
>
