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Date: 7/10/25 5:48 pm
From: Peter H Yaukey via groups.io <pyaukey...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Purple Martin roosts on the causeway

Jane-

I haven't been out, but have been monitoring it by radar (at rap.ucar.edu- not as nice an image as Zach Fradella's, which I imagine is using Fox's own radar). Yesterday morning's departure is pasted below.

The echo is in the same position as previous years, offshore the north end, where it is normally beyond sight from land. So I think at Sunset Pt you will only see birds milling before they go out- perhaps lots, but nowhere near the total numbers that roost. Did Zach say anything implying that the three arrows indicated visible movement streams going to the roost? Roost entry in the evening has never been visible on the NOAA radar, only morning departures. This has the potential to be an exciting new information source.

My interested was picqued a few weeks ago when the echo started out being on the southern half of the bridge, perhaps even at the old roost site a the south end- but it shifted back north to its current location before anyone could visit to check.

The long echo strung out along the bridge is consistent with one birder's report 1-2 weeks ago that they saw martins along the full length of the bridge when they started crossing N to S about 20 min before sunset. So that was presumably before they form the large swirling cloud to enter the roost.

I have never figured out the optimal time to depart the north shore to see the evening entry cloud fully formed. If you figure it out, please post! When the southern roost was active and visible at leisure from shore, the cloud would always be in failing twilight, well after sunset.

Ten years ago (or so), I kayaked out at night (pretty dumb- boats zipping by me in the dark- do not try this at home!) and estimated 250,000 martins, the roost starting about 2-3 miles from the north shore.

Peter Yaukey

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Hello LaBirders!

Has anyone ventured out to see what the purple Martin roosts look like on
the Causeway this year, either north shore or south shore?

I know theyve been several miles from shore the last few years and
wondered if that still holding true.

This image was shared by Zack Fradella, meteorologist with Fox 8 in NO last
week.

I plan to go to sunset park in Mandeville tonight to see what can see.

Jane Patterson






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Date: 7/10/25 11:48 am
From: Jane Patterson via groups.io <seejanebird...>
Subject: [labird] Purple Martin roosts on the causeway
Hello LaBirders!

Has anyone ventured out to see what the purple Martin roosts look like on
the Causeway this year, either north shore or south shore?

I know they’ve been several miles from shore the last few years and
wondered if that still holding true.

This image was shared by Zack Fradella, meteorologist with Fox 8 in NO last
week.

I plan to go to sunset park in Mandeville tonight to see what can see.

—Jane Patterson


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Date: 7/3/25 1:22 pm
From: Jennifer Outlaw Coulson via groups.io <jenniferocoulson...>
Subject: [labird] Swallow-tailed Kite sightings, including Larose
Dear LABIRD,

Just a reminder that I would greatly appreciate your reporting
Swallow-tailed Kite sightings to inform Orleans Audubon Society's nest
monitoring program. You can send reports directly to me or enter details
into eBird. (My cell: 504-717-3544 or this email address)

If anyone is heading to Grand Isle this weekend, please keep an eye out for
Swallow-tailed Kites along the route, including near the water tower on
LA-3235 in Larose, north west of Parkridge Lane. I just had a report from
there from a reliable source.

Thank you to everyone who is reporting their STKI sightings!!! Have a great
Fourth of July!

Jennifer

Jennifer Coulson
President
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Date: 7/1/25 10:04 am
From: Peter H Yaukey via groups.io <pyaukey...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA
Everyone-

Thanks for all the insights.

Erik- thanks for sharing that geolocator data, I had never worked with it directly, so it was good to see what it looks like before it is transformed into tracks. Were those bins of dates selected to gather dates with similar light signals together?

Bachman's- Some quick math. Eight tracks are shown turning south to pass through LA and farther east. That's about 13 percent of their fall migrants. Granted, that could be atypical, they may have just happened to be sampling during a year with more eastward movement than normal or lucked on a bunch of birds that follow that path. However, even if that was ten times the normal amount, and only 1.3% of the birds normally go east this far, with a population of 100,000 (PIF estimate), that would mean that 1300 GCWA pass through this area every fall (possibly twice that, if the PIF estimate is breeding season and we need to add HY birds...?). If such a volume has only produced six detections over the years, then by proportion a population of 100 Bachman's might be expected to have produced (100/1300)*6 = 0.46 detections. So, none seems realistic.

Hope I didn't make any stupid math mistakes on the fly...

Very simplified way of looking at it of course, but still intriguing...




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Paul and all-
Notably, South Padre Island has 2 July records (07-06-2014, 07-17-2020).
Maybe something for Louisiana birders to target in an otherwise dreadfully
slow month for birding?
Jack


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On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 12:28 PM Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux=
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> Peter, Labird,
>
> In addition to the FL record, there have been other reports SE
> of the breeding grounds, including Galveston. While I wouldn't put it in
> my Next Ten list, I've always wondered if it's a rare but regular
> migrant. Migration seems to start by late June when almost no birder is
> out there. Last summer, I think it was, Dave Patton's trail cam at
> Peveto picked up a tantalizing late June BT Green/Golden-cheeked type
> warbler coming into the water feature, but the images just eluded ID.
>
> Paul Conover
>
>
> On 6/29/2025 7:34 AM, Peter H Yaukey via groups.io wrote:
> > LABirders:
> > I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that
> many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas
> before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The
> paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the
> Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here
> are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w
> geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.
> >
> > [cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
> > They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the
> Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation
> could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are
> actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of
> precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
> > This is crazy!
> >
> > [cid:2624d6e2-9708-4bd0-bcc2-9a578f417bf3]
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Date: 6/30/25 10:43 am
From: Jack Rogers via groups.io <jack...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA
Paul and all-
Notably, South Padre Island has 2 July records (07-06-2014, 07-17-2020).
Maybe something for Louisiana birders to target in an otherwise dreadfully
slow month for birding?
Jack


Jack Rogers
*Caesar Kleberg Wildlife Research Institute at Texas A & M University of
Kingsville*
*Kingsville, TX/Mt Pleasant, SC*


On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 12:28 PM Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux=
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> Peter, Labird,
>
> In addition to the FL record, there have been other reports SE
> of the breeding grounds, including Galveston. While I wouldn't put it in
> my Next Ten list, I've always wondered if it's a rare but regular
> migrant. Migration seems to start by late June when almost no birder is
> out there. Last summer, I think it was, Dave Patton's trail cam at
> Peveto picked up a tantalizing late June BT Green/Golden-cheeked type
> warbler coming into the water feature, but the images just eluded ID.
>
> Paul Conover
>
>
> On 6/29/2025 7:34 AM, Peter H Yaukey via groups.io wrote:
> > LABirders:
> > I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that
> many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas
> before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The
> paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the
> Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here
> are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w
> geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.
> >
> > [cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
> > They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the
> Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation
> could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are
> actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of
> precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
> > This is crazy!
> >
> > [cid:2624d6e2-9708-4bd0-bcc2-9a578f417bf3]
> >
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Date: 6/30/25 10:28 am
From: Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA
Peter, Labird,

       In addition to the FL record, there have been other reports SE
of the breeding grounds, including Galveston. While I wouldn't put it in
my Next Ten list, I've always wondered if it's a rare but regular
migrant.  Migration seems to start by late June when almost no birder is
out there.  Last summer, I think it was, Dave Patton's trail cam at
Peveto picked up a tantalizing late June BT Green/Golden-cheeked type
warbler coming into the water feature, but the images just eluded ID.

Paul Conover


On 6/29/2025 7:34 AM, Peter H Yaukey via groups.io wrote:
> LABirders:
> I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.
>
> [cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
> They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
> This is crazy!
>
> [cid:2624d6e2-9708-4bd0-bcc2-9a578f417bf3]
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> [cid:cac7bd43-7edd-4d8b-ab89-93ebac7375e8]
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Date: 6/30/25 9:43 am
From: David P. Muth via groups.io <muthdp...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA
Eric--

Thanks for the tutorial and the clarifications. The bottom line is that the
specimen and photos from the Tampa area prove that it does occasionally
happen, and there seems to be a real possibility that it happens more often
than I suppose any of us imagined.

Peter brought up this paper in a discussion about Bachman's Warbler. I used
to argue (30 or 40 years ago) that Bachman's could easily be holding out in
some undiscovered remote location in the very under-birded and
under-studied mid-south. Others argued that it would still be detected
somewhere in migration in Florida or on the Gulf coast. I used to resist
that argument, pointing out that much of the Gulf coast was also poorly
covered. As more and more birders armed with better and better resources,
including now digital cameras, surveyed more and more of the coast, year
after year, my optimism faded to a very low point. But if Golden-cheeked
Warblers can be slipping past us regularly (and that remains to be
verified, as you point out), then I'd revise my hope back upward, if only
slightly. I don't think sedentary, large, loud and conspicuous, easily
identified Ivory-billed Woodpeckers could possibly still be holding out,
but small, early migrant, obscurely-plumaged (except adult males), warblers
might just.

David Muth
New Orleans

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> Hi Peter and LAbird,
>
> Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting. Having worked with light-level
> geolocator data, I can appreciate some of the uncertainties it generates,
> especially during migration. Latitude is notoriously harder to estimate
> with accuracy than longitude, and the difference between Louisiana and
> southern Mexico can be hard to distinguish with certainty, especially as
> the date approaches the equinox. To illustrate this point, I'm happy to
> share location data generated from light from a geolocator we recovered
> this spring from Amite River Wildlife Sanctuary. You should be able to
> click through the dates to see how locations and the precision changes
> depending on stopover duration and proximity to the equinox.
> https://rpubs.com/Erik_I_Johnson/1301031
>
> Back the Golden-cheeked Warbler paper. The figure with the 11 movement
> trajectories showing easterly fall migrations does not show the
> uncertainty, so it's hard to be sure how realistic these lines are. But
> interestingly, the date of the fall migrations reported in the paper
> spanned July 1 to September 3, which is a good bit before the equinox, and
> there are apparently some longer stopover durations (which helps improve
> accuracy), so it is a little harder to poke holes in the idea of an
> easterly movement in fall.
>
> Such a "loop migration" pattern is exhibited by a number of Neotropical
> migrants, although many of those tend to be more boreal. There are even two
> recent documented records in eBird from late August in the Tampa, FL area
> (and also a specimen from late August in 1964), and early to mid-August
> Houston/Galveston-area records, suggesting the geolocator data showing the
> occasional trans-Gulf migration may have some validity. But I'd be
> surprised if it were as common as the paper suggests, given the paucity of
> records from the northern Gulf.
>
> Golden-cheeked Warbler populations continue to decline, unlike the rapidly
> increasing Black-capped Vireo, which now has records from LA. Even so,
> there's no reason to think Golden-cheeked Warbler wouldn't show up from
> time to time, and I think this geolocator study helps reinforce that. This
> species would (will) be an amazing (and overdue) first state record, but
> I'd be hesitant to use light-level geolocator data to accept it as a first.
>
> Erik Johnson
> Sunset, LA
> Erik.Johnson AT audubon.org
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>
>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2025 7:35 AM
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>
>
> LABirders:
> I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that
> many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas
> before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The
> paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the
> Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here
> are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w
> geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.
>
> [cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
> They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the
> Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation
> could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are
> actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of
> precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
> This is crazy!
>
> [cid:2624d6e2-9708-4bd0-bcc2-9a578f417bf3]
>
> [cid:cac7bd43-7edd-4d8b-ab89-93ebac7375e8]
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Date: 6/29/25 3:32 pm
From: John Dillon via groups.io <kisforkryptonite...>
Subject: [labird] LOS Fall News articles
If anyone would like to contribute an article to the fall LOS News, the deadline is August 1. Or if you have a suggestion about someone who’s knowledgeable who might write an article, please reach out.

Needs to be LOS newsworthy.

Current research in LA, LSUMNS stuff, rare bird stuff, pelagic stuff, hurricane birding, hummer migration or winter info, eBird info, bird banding stuff, birding location stuff, whatever.

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Date: 6/29/25 8:56 am
From: joan garvey via groups.io <joanmgarvey1...>
Subject: Re: [labird] New Peveto Woods Sanctuary Manager
Yes, thank you Dave for all of your hard work over the years. It’s a beautiful resource! Looking forward to the future too!

> On Jun 29, 2025, at 7:47 AM, Peter H Yaukey via groups.io <pyaukey...> wrote:
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> Thanks for your many years of service Dave! So many birders have benefited!
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> I agree Mac. Hats off to Dave and welcome Charlotte!
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>> On Jun 28, 2025, at 6:41 AM, Mac Myers via groups.io <budogmacm...> wrote:
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>> Dave, thanks for many years of doing a great job at the sanctuary.
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>> Charlotte, thank you for taking on the job, and I'm sure you'll do a great
>> job, too.
>>
>> Mac
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>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:22 PM Dave Patton via groups.io <http://groups.io/> <davepatton122=
>>> <gmail.com...> <mailto:<gmail.com...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Birders,
>>> There were some additions and repairs at Peveto Woods today, but they were
>>> not my doing.
>>> It is my pleasure to announce the passing of my Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>>> duties along to the new manager, Charlotte Chehotsky. I officially handed
>>> over the keys to the sanctuary (contribution box), and today, Charlotte and
>>> volunteer, Dale Hamilton, were busy getting started. They completed a new
>>> water hole viewing bench with a hiding wall, repainted the contribution
>>> box, and lifted the old picnic table onto blocks to prevent and repair
>>> rotting.
>>> It has been my pleasure and honor to manage the sanctuary for the past 18
>>> years. I now look forward to enjoying my visits and helping when needed.
>>> Thank you Charlotte for taking over. I know the sanctuary is in good hands.
>>>
>>> Dave Patton
>>> Past Manager
>>> Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: 6/29/25 6:48 am
From: Johnson, Erik via groups.io <Erik.Johnson...>
Subject: Re: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA
Hi Peter and LAbird,

Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting. Having worked with light-level geolocator data, I can appreciate some of the uncertainties it generates, especially during migration. Latitude is notoriously harder to estimate with accuracy than longitude, and the difference between Louisiana and southern Mexico can be hard to distinguish with certainty, especially as the date approaches the equinox. To illustrate this point, I'm happy to share location data generated from light from a geolocator we recovered this spring from Amite River Wildlife Sanctuary. You should be able to click through the dates to see how locations and the precision changes depending on stopover duration and proximity to the equinox.
https://rpubs.com/Erik_I_Johnson/1301031

Back the Golden-cheeked Warbler paper. The figure with the 11 movement trajectories showing easterly fall migrations does not show the uncertainty, so it's hard to be sure how realistic these lines are. But interestingly, the date of the fall migrations reported in the paper spanned July 1 to September 3, which is a good bit before the equinox, and there are apparently some longer stopover durations (which helps improve accuracy), so it is a little harder to poke holes in the idea of an easterly movement in fall.

Such a "loop migration" pattern is exhibited by a number of Neotropical migrants, although many of those tend to be more boreal. There are even two recent documented records in eBird from late August in the Tampa, FL area (and also a specimen from late August in 1964), and early to mid-August Houston/Galveston-area records, suggesting the geolocator data showing the occasional trans-Gulf migration may have some validity. But I'd be surprised if it were as common as the paper suggests, given the paucity of records from the northern Gulf.

Golden-cheeked Warbler populations continue to decline, unlike the rapidly increasing Black-capped Vireo, which now has records from LA. Even so, there's no reason to think Golden-cheeked Warbler wouldn't show up from time to time, and I think this geolocator study helps reinforce that. This species would (will) be an amazing (and overdue) first state record, but I'd be hesitant to use light-level geolocator data to accept it as a first.

Erik Johnson
Sunset, LA
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LABirders:
I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.

[cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
This is crazy!

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Date: 6/29/25 5:47 am
From: Peter H Yaukey via groups.io <pyaukey...>
Subject: Re: [labird] New Peveto Woods Sanctuary Manager
Thanks for your many years of service Dave! So many birders have benefited!

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I agree Mac. Hats off to Dave and welcome Charlotte!

Kevin
> On Jun 28, 2025, at 6:41 AM, Mac Myers via groups.io <budogmacm...> wrote:
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> Dave, thanks for many years of doing a great job at the sanctuary.
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> Charlotte, thank you for taking on the job, and I'm sure you'll do a great
> job, too.
>
> Mac
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>> <gmail.com...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Birders,
>> There were some additions and repairs at Peveto Woods today, but they were
>> not my doing.
>> It is my pleasure to announce the passing of my Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>> duties along to the new manager, Charlotte Chehotsky. I officially handed
>> over the keys to the sanctuary (contribution box), and today, Charlotte and
>> volunteer, Dale Hamilton, were busy getting started. They completed a new
>> water hole viewing bench with a hiding wall, repainted the contribution
>> box, and lifted the old picnic table onto blocks to prevent and repair
>> rotting.
>> It has been my pleasure and honor to manage the sanctuary for the past 18
>> years. I now look forward to enjoying my visits and helping when needed.
>> Thank you Charlotte for taking over. I know the sanctuary is in good hands.
>>
>> Dave Patton
>> Past Manager
>> Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






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Date: 6/29/25 5:35 am
From: Peter H Yaukey via groups.io <pyaukey...>
Subject: [labird] Golden-cheeked Warblers overfly LA

LABirders:
I read a (to me) shocking geolocator paper yesterday that reported that many Golden-cheeked Warblers travel far east from their nesting areas before turning south in fall, many apparently traversing Louisiana. The paper states that 20% of the birds in the study sample migrated across the Gulf in fall, including some going as far east as peninsular Florida. Here are the tracks of the c. 12 (of their total of 61 migrants tracked w geolocators) that went transgulf or through Florida.

[cid:a9bc4c85-0d14-493e-947a-ed00063f054b]
They had another map that gives stopover points. One of these is on the Chandeleurs. Has the LBRC considered whether a geolocator observation could constitute a first state record? The lead authors of the study are actually at LSU- perhaps they could provide information on the amount of precision in that stopover observation or the flyover tracks?
This is crazy!

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Date: 6/28/25 3:02 pm
From: Kevin Colley via groups.io <Kcolley71...>
Subject: Re: [labird] New Peveto Woods Sanctuary Manager
I agree Mac. Hats off to Dave and welcome Charlotte!

Kevin
> On Jun 28, 2025, at 6:41 AM, Mac Myers via groups.io <budogmacm...> wrote:
>
> Dave, thanks for many years of doing a great job at the sanctuary.
>
> Charlotte, thank you for taking on the job, and I'm sure you'll do a great
> job, too.
>
> Mac
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>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:22 PM Dave Patton via groups.io <davepatton122=
>> <gmail.com...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Birders,
>> There were some additions and repairs at Peveto Woods today, but they were
>> not my doing.
>> It is my pleasure to announce the passing of my Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>> duties along to the new manager, Charlotte Chehotsky. I officially handed
>> over the keys to the sanctuary (contribution box), and today, Charlotte and
>> volunteer, Dale Hamilton, were busy getting started. They completed a new
>> water hole viewing bench with a hiding wall, repainted the contribution
>> box, and lifted the old picnic table onto blocks to prevent and repair
>> rotting.
>> It has been my pleasure and honor to manage the sanctuary for the past 18
>> years. I now look forward to enjoying my visits and helping when needed.
>> Thank you Charlotte for taking over. I know the sanctuary is in good hands.
>>
>> Dave Patton
>> Past Manager
>> Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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Date: 6/28/25 5:42 am
From: Mac Myers via groups.io <budogmacm...>
Subject: Re: [labird] New Peveto Woods Sanctuary Manager
Dave, thanks for many years of doing a great job at the sanctuary.

Charlotte, thank you for taking on the job, and I'm sure you'll do a great
job, too.

Mac

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> Dear Birders,
> There were some additions and repairs at Peveto Woods today, but they were
> not my doing.
> It is my pleasure to announce the passing of my Peveto Woods Sanctuary
> duties along to the new manager, Charlotte Chehotsky. I officially handed
> over the keys to the sanctuary (contribution box), and today, Charlotte and
> volunteer, Dale Hamilton, were busy getting started. They completed a new
> water hole viewing bench with a hiding wall, repainted the contribution
> box, and lifted the old picnic table onto blocks to prevent and repair
> rotting.
> It has been my pleasure and honor to manage the sanctuary for the past 18
> years. I now look forward to enjoying my visits and helping when needed.
> Thank you Charlotte for taking over. I know the sanctuary is in good hands.
>
> Dave Patton
> Past Manager
> Peveto Woods Sanctuary
>
>
>
>
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Date: 6/27/25 8:22 pm
From: Dave Patton via groups.io <davepatton122...>
Subject: [labird] New Peveto Woods Sanctuary Manager
Dear Birders,
There were some additions and repairs at Peveto Woods today, but they were
not my doing.
It is my pleasure to announce the passing of my Peveto Woods Sanctuary
duties along to the new manager, Charlotte Chehotsky. I officially handed
over the keys to the sanctuary (contribution box), and today, Charlotte and
volunteer, Dale Hamilton, were busy getting started. They completed a new
water hole viewing bench with a hiding wall, repainted the contribution
box, and lifted the old picnic table onto blocks to prevent and repair
rotting.
It has been my pleasure and honor to manage the sanctuary for the past 18
years. I now look forward to enjoying my visits and helping when needed.
Thank you Charlotte for taking over. I know the sanctuary is in good hands.

Dave Patton
Past Manager
Peveto Woods Sanctuary


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Date: 6/25/25 10:21 am
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Subject: [labird] Governor Landry vetoes bill banning balloon releases
Governor Jeff Landry vetoed HB 581, banning the mass release of balloons, on June 20. I have located no veto message. If anybody knows why this important environmental provision did not pass muster with our fearless leader, please enlighten us.


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Date: 6/22/25 11:37 am
From: Jennifer Outlaw Coulson via groups.io <jenniferocoulson...>
Subject: [labird] Some sad news about Joelle Finley
Dear LABIRD,

It is with a heavy heart that I inform you of the passing of one of our
longtime members and leaders, Joelle Finley. On the morning of June 21,
Joelle passed away unexpectedly at her home with her loving husband, Ken
Harris, at her side. Joelle’s family is helping Ken, and he asks that we
all give him a few days before reaching out to him.

Joelle’s leadership in local environmental organizations was exemplary and
selfless. She served on Orleans Audubon’s Board for the past 19 years and
was the Vice-President for the past 17 years. She played many vital roles
in Orleans Audubon, coordinating our monthly programs and birding field
trips, and serving on the City Park and Sanctuary committees. Joelle also
helped organize local birding festivals and led many trips for the Grand
Isle Migratory Bird Celebration. She served as an advisor for the New
Orleans City Park’s Birding Corridor and was instrumental in its planning
and development. She and Ken also conducted bird monitoring surveys there
and elsewhere. On May 18th, 2021, OAS thanked and honored Joelle for her
long-time service to OAS and the environmental community by bestowing her
with the Swallow-tailed Kite Conservation Award.

Joelle was a longtime leader of the former Crescent Bird Club, running
field trips and handling membership. She was instrumental in orchestrating
its merger with OAS. She served many other leadership roles in the
environmental community, including Secretary of the Greater New Orleans
Chapter of the Louisiana Master Naturalists and Secretary for the Louisiana
Ornithological Society.

As a wildlife photographer, world traveler, and dynamic speaker, Joelle
shared her knowledge and talents by presenting lectures for OAS, LOS, CBC,
Northshore Bird Club, Sierra Club and the like. Her talks have taken us to
wonderfully exotic birding destinations such as Vietnam, Cuba, Brazil,
Madagascar, Thailand, Ghana and Indonesia. She and Ken had most recently
traveled to Uzbekistan and the Caribbean. Several of her recorded
presentations are available on the Orleans Audubon Society’s YouTube
channel.

Joelle was a true inspiration to countless people in the Greater New
Orleans Area as they were getting started in birding. Many have recounted
how Joelle generously shared her knowledge and also introduced them to
other birders. Joelle team taught many beginning birding classes for OAS.

She was featured and quoted in numerous articles about birds and birding,
articles which have appeared in birding magazines, local newspapers,
television spots and online blogs.

For many of us, myself included, Joelle was also a lifelong friend and
cherished birding companion. OAS will provide more information soon.

May we all follow Joelle’s stellar example.

Jennifer Coulson

President
Orleans Audubon Society


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Date: 6/18/25 3:17 pm
From: David P. Muth via groups.io <muthdp...>
Subject: [labird] Beach-nesting Bird Colony Atlas for the Northern Gulf
Labird:

I am forwarding this link to a new atlas of beach nesting birds for the
northern Gulf of Mexico prepared for the Gulf Coast Joint Venture.

David

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From: Wilson, Barry <barry_wilson...>
Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 3:04 PM
Subject: Beach-nesting Bird Colony Atlas for the Northern Gulf
GCJV Board & Initiative Team Chairs,
[sent via BCC to a 150+ Bird Nesting Island Cooperative list]

I am pleased to share with you the Beach-nesting Bird Colony Atlas for the
Northern Gulf
<https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/5b50ef24f8a94e8ebbf3bc4810c0356e>.
Many of you will recognize this as one of the original desired products and
tasks of the GCJV's Bird Nesting Island Cooperative. This was a gargantuan
collaborative effort completed by Dr. Pat Jodice and his team at the SC
Coop Unit
<https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/5b50ef24f8a94e8ebbf3bc4810c0356e?dlg=Info&views=Citation>,
spearheaded on behalf of the Cooperative by Dr. Jeff Gleason, and funded by
the USFWS Southeast Region's Migratory Bird & Science Applications
Program. A Technical Advisory Team
<https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/5b50ef24f8a94e8ebbf3bc4810c0356e?dlg=Info&views=Technical-adivsory-team>
provided
guidance, multiple organizations
<https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/5b50ef24f8a94e8ebbf3bc4810c0356e?dlg=Info&views=Data-providers>
provided
data, and many others
<https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/5b50ef24f8a94e8ebbf3bc4810c0356e?dlg=Info&views=Acknowledgements>
played
some role in pushing this across the finish line. Additional details are
available on the attached. I encourage you to poke around and explore the
site as time permits, noting that you can select individual colonies or use
the wrench-shaped tool at the top left of the map viewer to draw an area of
interest.

Kudos to everyone involved!

Barry

************************
Barry C. Wilson
GCJV Coordinator (USFWS)
c/o USGS Wetland and Aquatic Research Center
700 Cajundome Blvd
Lafayette, LA 70506
337-262-7015
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Date: 6/16/25 9:54 am
From: Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux...>
Subject: Re: [labird] LBRC website updates
Claire, Labird,

        The Hammond's is in the round that we're currently finishing
up. That round has all of the records that are posted on the Pending
Reports page, for the most part records from last fall and winter. The
records that don't reach a decision in this round will go into the next
round, which will probably go out soon and be finished fairly quickly.
That process gets faster as the batch of records gets whittled down, and
I'm expecting to have the next Newsletter out by October or November.

         In the meantime, the process isn't top secret, just a bit time
consuming because of the legwork and the review involved, but I'm always
happy to give updates. Feel free to write me, and I can definitely let
you know the current status of your record.


Thanks,

Paul Conover

LBRC Secretary



On 6/16/2025 8:57 AM, Claire Thomas wrote:
> How do we find out if our sighting is accepted? I had a Hammond’s
> flycatcher with photos but I don’t recall seeing it in the LRBC
> report. I may have overlooked it but I don’t think so. I’d like to
> know if it was accepted or not. Thanks
>
> Claire Thomas
> <claire...>
> 19170 Antenor St.
> Mandeville, LA 70471-6937
>
>
>
>> On Jun 12, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Paul Conover via groups.io
>> <zoiseaux...> wrote:
>>
>> Labird,
>>
>>     A little clarification.
>>
>>    When a record is Unaccepted, there's always a mention of it in a
>> report, such as the example below:
>>
>> *One male (2013-081)* on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods
>> Sanctuary. This was a brief observation of a bird seen only in flight.
>> The submitting observer, who is also a Committee Member and who is very
>> experienced with the species, submitted the report primarily so that it
>> would be archived. He ultimately voted against his own report stating
>> that, although he believed that the identification was likely correct,
>> he agreed with other Members that the brevity of the observation and
>> resulting limited detail did not warrant acceptance.
>>
>> However, because the Bylaws say, "Rejected records should also be
>> published with the above data, except that observers' names
>> should not be included," no name was included in this summary.
>>
>> In this case, I was the reporter, and even though I voted against my
>> record because I felt it lacked the needed evidence to prove the
>> sighting, I did want it archived. When a record is accepted, I post a
>> link to the report so people can study the report. However, because of
>> the Bylaws, putting an unaccepted record would be unacceptable unless I
>> had express permission or blacked out the observer's name. But to me the
>> name is pretty important, as that might tell me a lot.
>>
>> So what I would like to do is this (hopefully it transmits )
>>
>> *One male (2013-081 <http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm>)*
>> on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods Sanctuary. This was a brief
>> observation of a bird seen only in flight. The submitting observer, who
>> is also a Committee Member and who is very experienced with the species,
>> submitted the report primarily so that it would be archived. He
>> ultimately voted against his own report stating that, although he
>> believed that the identification was likely correct, he agreed with
>> other Members that the brevity of the observation and resulting limited
>> detail did not warrant acceptance.
>>
>> In this case, clicking on the link should take readers to
>> <http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm> where they can see the
>> actual report.
>>
>> Sans such a link, the record is not really archived, but is hidden away
>> where no one can ever see it, which would defeat my intentions in
>> submitting it in the first place.
>>
>> Many reporters know they didn't quite get enough on a sighting, but know
>> as well that the sighting is "good" for certain purposes, would like
>> their sightings out in the open for all to see, and don't feel the need
>> to hide their name.
>>
>> That's where I was heading with this. Sorry if I wasn't clear, and I
>> hope this clarified it.
>>
>>
>> Merci,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/12/2025 2:13 PM, Paul Conover via groups.io wrote:
>>> Labird,
>>>
>>>         With summer here, I've been able to spend some time working on
>>> LBRC stuff. Some of the updates are:
>>>
>>>         All reviewed records have been added to the Photo and Record
>>> Gallery page. In other words, if you're wondering how many records of
>>> Eurasian Wigeon there are for the state, you can flip to that page and
>>> the records are up to date as of the 2024 Newsletter. A reminder that
>>> several species (Long-tailed Duck, Broad-billed Hummingbird, Sargasso
>>> Shearwater, Gray Kingbird, Black-whiskered Vireo) were removed from the
>>> Review List at the Spring Meeting.
>>>
>>>         Also, thanks to the efforts of the LOS, I've had a new scanner
>>> to work with to scan older paper records. That job will be ongoing for a
>>> long time to come, but I've gotten a small start on it and established a
>>> routine that seems to work. Some of the records I've scanned were not
>>> accepted, which brings up the next topic:
>>>
>>>         Should Unaccepted records be posted online? LBRC Bylaws say
>>> they shouldn't, but in my mind, even unaccepted records are valuable. In
>>> my experience, when records don't get accepted, it's because they didn't
>>> quite rise to the threshold, not because they were obviously wrong. Many
>>> of my records have failed to make the cut, but it's usually because I
>>> didn't get pictures, or see an important mark, or couldn't remove the
>>> possibility of a look-alike species, not because I made an
>>> embarrassingly bad ID. That's true of most unaccepted records; the
>>> records are totally plausible, but they don't remove plausible doubt.
>>>
>>>         Many observers continue to have faith in their own records and
>>> would love their unaccepted reports to be visible where others can see
>>> them for themselves. I'm one of them. I don't think the committee "got
>>> them wrong." Instead, I think that some part of the report might be
>>> useful for others to see, whether it's the date, the fieldmarks, or
>>> whatever. And, importantly, some keen observer might note something that
>>> everyone else has missed, or might be aware of some new fieldmark that
>>> would cause a second look at the report.
>>>
>>>          So, if you're good with having your unaccepted reports posted,
>>> or if you absolutely hate the idea, please let me know.
>>>
>>>          In other news, I've also tried to clean up the LBRC website,
>>> including updating the homepage for continuity with the LOS homepage. If
>>> you notice any errors or display issues, please alert me asap so I can
>>> work on them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Merci,
>>>
>>> Paul Conover
>>>
>>> LBRC Secretary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Date: 6/16/25 6:57 am
From: clairedthomas via groups.io <claire...>
Subject: Re: [labird] LBRC website updates
How do we find out if our sighting is accepted? I had a Hammond’s flycatcher with photos but I don’t recall seeing it in the LRBC report. I may have overlooked it but I don’t think so. I’d like to know if it was accepted or not. Thanks

Claire Thomas
<claire...>
19170 Antenor St.
Mandeville, LA 70471-6937



On Jun 12, 2025, at 3:04 PM, Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux...> wrote:

Labird,

A little clarification.

When a record is Unaccepted, there's always a mention of it in a
report, such as the example below:

*One male (2013-081)* on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods
Sanctuary. This was a brief observation of a bird seen only in flight.
The submitting observer, who is also a Committee Member and who is very
experienced with the species, submitted the report primarily so that it
would be archived. He ultimately voted against his own report stating
that, although he believed that the identification was likely correct,
he agreed with other Members that the brevity of the observation and
resulting limited detail did not warrant acceptance.

However, because the Bylaws say, "Rejected records should also be
published with the above data, except that observers' names
should not be included," no name was included in this summary.

In this case, I was the reporter, and even though I voted against my
record because I felt it lacked the needed evidence to prove the
sighting, I did want it archived. When a record is accepted, I post a
link to the report so people can study the report. However, because of
the Bylaws, putting an unaccepted record would be unacceptable unless I
had express permission or blacked out the observer's name. But to me the
name is pretty important, as that might tell me a lot.

So what I would like to do is this (hopefully it transmits )

*One male (2013-081 <http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm>)*
on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods Sanctuary. This was a brief
observation of a bird seen only in flight. The submitting observer, who
is also a Committee Member and who is very experienced with the species,
submitted the report primarily so that it would be archived. He
ultimately voted against his own report stating that, although he
believed that the identification was likely correct, he agreed with
other Members that the brevity of the observation and resulting limited
detail did not warrant acceptance.

In this case, clicking on the link should take readers to
<http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm> where they can see the
actual report.

Sans such a link, the record is not really archived, but is hidden away
where no one can ever see it, which would defeat my intentions in
submitting it in the first place.

Many reporters know they didn't quite get enough on a sighting, but know
as well that the sighting is "good" for certain purposes, would like
their sightings out in the open for all to see, and don't feel the need
to hide their name.

That's where I was heading with this. Sorry if I wasn't clear, and I
hope this clarified it.


Merci,

Paul





On 6/12/2025 2:13 PM, Paul Conover via groups.io wrote:
Labird,

With summer here, I've been able to spend some time working on
LBRC stuff. Some of the updates are:

All reviewed records have been added to the Photo and Record
Gallery page. In other words, if you're wondering how many records of
Eurasian Wigeon there are for the state, you can flip to that page and
the records are up to date as of the 2024 Newsletter. A reminder that
several species (Long-tailed Duck, Broad-billed Hummingbird, Sargasso
Shearwater, Gray Kingbird, Black-whiskered Vireo) were removed from the
Review List at the Spring Meeting.

Also, thanks to the efforts of the LOS, I've had a new scanner
to work with to scan older paper records. That job will be ongoing for a
long time to come, but I've gotten a small start on it and established a
routine that seems to work. Some of the records I've scanned were not
accepted, which brings up the next topic:

Should Unaccepted records be posted online? LBRC Bylaws say
they shouldn't, but in my mind, even unaccepted records are valuable. In
my experience, when records don't get accepted, it's because they didn't
quite rise to the threshold, not because they were obviously wrong. Many
of my records have failed to make the cut, but it's usually because I
didn't get pictures, or see an important mark, or couldn't remove the
possibility of a look-alike species, not because I made an
embarrassingly bad ID. That's true of most unaccepted records; the
records are totally plausible, but they don't remove plausible doubt.

Many observers continue to have faith in their own records and
would love their unaccepted reports to be visible where others can see
them for themselves. I'm one of them. I don't think the committee "got
them wrong." Instead, I think that some part of the report might be
useful for others to see, whether it's the date, the fieldmarks, or
whatever. And, importantly, some keen observer might note something that
everyone else has missed, or might be aware of some new fieldmark that
would cause a second look at the report.

So, if you're good with having your unaccepted reports posted,
or if you absolutely hate the idea, please let me know.

In other news, I've also tried to clean up the LBRC website,
including updating the homepage for continuity with the LOS homepage. If
you notice any errors or display issues, please alert me asap so I can
work on them.


Merci,

Paul Conover

LBRC Secretary













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Date: 6/12/25 1:04 pm
From: Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux...>
Subject: Re: [labird] LBRC website updates
Labird,

    A little clarification.

   When a record is Unaccepted, there's always a mention of it in a
report, such as the example below:

*One male (2013-081)* on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods
Sanctuary. This was a brief observation of a bird seen only in flight.
The submitting observer, who is also a Committee Member and who is very
experienced with the species, submitted the report primarily so that it
would be archived. He ultimately voted against his own report stating
that, although he believed that the identification was likely correct,
he agreed with other Members that the brevity of the observation and
resulting limited detail did not warrant acceptance.

However, because the Bylaws say, "Rejected records should also be
published with the above data, except that observers' names
should not be included," no name was included in this summary.

In this case, I was the reporter, and even though I voted against my
record because I felt it lacked the needed evidence to prove the
sighting, I did want it archived. When a record is accepted, I post a
link to the report so people can study the report. However, because of
the Bylaws, putting an unaccepted record would be unacceptable unless I
had express permission or blacked out the observer's name. But to me the
name is pretty important, as that might tell me a lot.

So what I would like to do is this (hopefully it transmits )

*One male (2013-081 <http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm>)*
on 6 October 2013, Cameron: Peveto Woods Sanctuary. This was a brief
observation of a bird seen only in flight. The submitting observer, who
is also a Committee Member and who is very experienced with the species,
submitted the report primarily so that it would be archived. He
ultimately voted against his own report stating that, although he
believed that the identification was likely correct, he agreed with
other Members that the brevity of the observation and resulting limited
detail did not warrant acceptance.

In this case, clicking on the link should take readers to
<http://www.losbird.org/lbrc/leni133conovera.htm> where they can see the
actual report.

Sans such a link, the record is not really archived, but is hidden away
where no one can ever see it, which would defeat my intentions in
submitting it in the first place.

Many reporters know they didn't quite get enough on a sighting, but know
as well that the sighting is "good" for certain purposes, would like
their sightings out in the open for all to see, and don't feel the need
to hide their name.

That's where I was heading with this. Sorry if I wasn't clear, and I
hope this clarified it.


Merci,

Paul





On 6/12/2025 2:13 PM, Paul Conover via groups.io wrote:
> Labird,
>
>         With summer here, I've been able to spend some time working on
> LBRC stuff. Some of the updates are:
>
>         All reviewed records have been added to the Photo and Record
> Gallery page. In other words, if you're wondering how many records of
> Eurasian Wigeon there are for the state, you can flip to that page and
> the records are up to date as of the 2024 Newsletter. A reminder that
> several species (Long-tailed Duck, Broad-billed Hummingbird, Sargasso
> Shearwater, Gray Kingbird, Black-whiskered Vireo) were removed from the
> Review List at the Spring Meeting.
>
>         Also, thanks to the efforts of the LOS, I've had a new scanner
> to work with to scan older paper records. That job will be ongoing for a
> long time to come, but I've gotten a small start on it and established a
> routine that seems to work. Some of the records I've scanned were not
> accepted, which brings up the next topic:
>
>         Should Unaccepted records be posted online? LBRC Bylaws say
> they shouldn't, but in my mind, even unaccepted records are valuable. In
> my experience, when records don't get accepted, it's because they didn't
> quite rise to the threshold, not because they were obviously wrong. Many
> of my records have failed to make the cut, but it's usually because I
> didn't get pictures, or see an important mark, or couldn't remove the
> possibility of a look-alike species, not because I made an
> embarrassingly bad ID. That's true of most unaccepted records; the
> records are totally plausible, but they don't remove plausible doubt.
>
>         Many observers continue to have faith in their own records and
> would love their unaccepted reports to be visible where others can see
> them for themselves. I'm one of them. I don't think the committee "got
> them wrong." Instead, I think that some part of the report might be
> useful for others to see, whether it's the date, the fieldmarks, or
> whatever. And, importantly, some keen observer might note something that
> everyone else has missed, or might be aware of some new fieldmark that
> would cause a second look at the report.
>
>          So, if you're good with having your unaccepted reports posted,
> or if you absolutely hate the idea, please let me know.
>
>          In other news, I've also tried to clean up the LBRC website,
> including updating the homepage for continuity with the LOS homepage. If
> you notice any errors or display issues, please alert me asap so I can
> work on them.
>
>
> Merci,
>
> Paul Conover
>
> LBRC Secretary
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Date: 6/12/25 12:13 pm
From: Paul Conover via groups.io <zoiseaux...>
Subject: [labird] LBRC website updates
Labird,

        With summer here, I've been able to spend some time working on
LBRC stuff. Some of the updates are:

        All reviewed records have been added to the Photo and Record
Gallery page. In other words, if you're wondering how many records of
Eurasian Wigeon there are for the state, you can flip to that page and
the records are up to date as of the 2024 Newsletter. A reminder that
several species (Long-tailed Duck, Broad-billed Hummingbird, Sargasso
Shearwater, Gray Kingbird, Black-whiskered Vireo) were removed from the
Review List at the Spring Meeting.

        Also, thanks to the efforts of the LOS, I've had a new scanner
to work with to scan older paper records. That job will be ongoing for a
long time to come, but I've gotten a small start on it and established a
routine that seems to work. Some of the records I've scanned were not
accepted, which brings up the next topic:

        Should Unaccepted records be posted online? LBRC Bylaws say
they shouldn't, but in my mind, even unaccepted records are valuable. In
my experience, when records don't get accepted, it's because they didn't
quite rise to the threshold, not because they were obviously wrong. Many
of my records have failed to make the cut, but it's usually because I
didn't get pictures, or see an important mark, or couldn't remove the
possibility of a look-alike species, not because I made an
embarrassingly bad ID. That's true of most unaccepted records; the
records are totally plausible, but they don't remove plausible doubt.

        Many observers continue to have faith in their own records and
would love their unaccepted reports to be visible where others can see
them for themselves. I'm one of them. I don't think the committee "got
them wrong." Instead, I think that some part of the report might be
useful for others to see, whether it's the date, the fieldmarks, or
whatever. And, importantly, some keen observer might note something that
everyone else has missed, or might be aware of some new fieldmark that
would cause a second look at the report.

         So, if you're good with having your unaccepted reports posted,
or if you absolutely hate the idea, please let me know.

         In other news, I've also tried to clean up the LBRC website,
including updating the homepage for continuity with the LOS homepage. If
you notice any errors or display issues, please alert me asap so I can
work on them.


Merci,

Paul Conover

LBRC Secretary



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