Date: 9/5/24 9:09 am From: Henry Detwiler <swbirders...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ report
Hi Catherine,
I don't see it as necessarily a change, since the LISTSERV isn't going away.
It is, however, another avenue by which to get information on rare bird
sightings, and enter discussions on bird-related topics (from photography
to bird books to optics).
Personally, I would advocate using all these services, if you feel
comfortable doing so.
Good birding!
Henry
Yuma, AZ
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 9:08 AM Catherine Davis <catherineann...>
wrote:
> Can you explain why we're changing? I don't get it
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Laurie Nessel <laurienessel...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Mark.
>
> So, you can click on the expired link. Ignore "Invite Invalid" and click
> on "Continue to Discord" right below it.
> On the top left column click on "Find or start a conversation". A dialogue
> box pops up.
> Enter "Arizona Rare Birds and Discussion"
>
> For instruction on creating an account, go to
> https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/5ItwCoAWMofrPDB1wu1dJKh?<domain...> > <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/5ItwCoAWMofrPDB1wu1dJKh?<domain...> >
> Good luck!!
>
>
> Laurie Nessel
> 602.391.4303
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:44 AM Mark Stevenson <drbrdr99...> wrote:
>
>> The post immediately below yours in you reply includes an invitation to
>> click on
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024, 8:43 AM Laurie Nessel <laurienessel...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jacob - do you know how to invite people to Discord? It appears to be by
>>> invitation only. NOT USER FRIENDLY! How do people migrate from the listserv
>>> to Discord?
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurie Nessel
>>> 602.391.4303
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 6:39 AM Laurie Nessel <laurienessel...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of us old geezers who are flexible and interested in keeping
>>>> up with the times, the link to the birding Discord is https://discord >>>> .gg/aBZspm5v
>>>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/m3H2Cp9WNpfnO9vJwhDmPD6?<domain...> >>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laurie Nessel
>>>> 602.391.4303
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:32 PM Byard Miller <byardm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Amen Mr Ditch!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why abandon a system that has been so productive for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know nothing about Discord but assume it is yet another social media
>>>>> app that will find a way to mine my personal info. I abandoned FB many
>>>>> years ago. No TikTok for me. If the list serve gets abandoned it will be a
>>>>> loss for the birding community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Byard's iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 8:06 PM, Richard Ditch <richardditch...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for replying. But you seem to be missing an important point
>>>>> here - who ever told those of us that this decision had been made? How are
>>>>> those of us who have been using the AZ List for almost 30 years supposed to
>>>>> know that a bunch of Alpha Birders have decided to not bother sharing
>>>>> information with those who have long contributed to the AZ birding
>>>>> community? Who decided this was the way it would be in the future? When and
>>>>> where was this discussed? What alternatives were considered? Who has
>>>>> decided what birders now comprise the state birding community?
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt if I am the only geezer birder in AZ who has a good history of
>>>>> contributing to our state birding community. But I guess that my declining
>>>>> mobility has now forced me out of that community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Ditch. AZ Geezer former birder
>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 7:47 PM, Pierre Deviche <Pierre.Deviche...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For the record - not that it matters much either way - after
>>>>> discovering the Gila Bend Curlew Sandpiper last July, I posted on Discord
>>>>> and NOT on the AZ List. The AZ Discord channel now has ~1,000 members and
>>>>> seems to be the preferred mode of communication and rapid information
>>>>> exchange within the state birding community - for good reasons, as Jacob
>>>>> explains in his message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Deviche.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Jacob Bagley <jacobboutdoors...>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2024 18:49
>>>>> *To:* Elizabeth Farquhar <liz.farquhar51...>
>>>>> *Cc:* Richard Ditch <richardditch...>; AZ List <
>>>>> <aznmbirds...>; Pierre Deviche <deviche...>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ
>>>>> report
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, Richard, we could use the Arizona Rare Birds and Discussion
>>>>> Discord that was recently created by young birders. It now has 1000
>>>>> members, and has proven to be a fast and effective means of spreading the
>>>>> word of all manner of bird sightings. Additionally, the discussion aspect
>>>>> of it allows the community to connect on a wide manner of topics from
>>>>> conservation to bird id help to avian science.
>>>>>
>>>>> This “telephone tree” system that you reference, as well as this
>>>>> listserv, are simply more dated means of communication. If you’re looking
>>>>> for the best way to hear about rare birds, I highly recommend joining the
>>>>> Discord. Birding is changing just like everything else in the world, and
>>>>> it’s much better to grow and adapt with it than be left behind. Hope to see
>>>>> you on the Discord!
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob Bagley, AZ Young Birder
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:30 Elizabeth Farquhar <
>>>>> <liz.farquhar51...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hear hear! I'm for using this list service.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 2:48 PM Richard Ditch <richardditch...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d like to thank Pierre Deviche for the timely posting of information
>>>>> about the Curlew Sandpiper he discovered in Gila Bend on July 20, 2024. It
>>>>> is always so nice to see such reports of rarities here on the AZ List so
>>>>> that all AZ birders know about them without the need to check ebird,
>>>>> facebook, and even Discord. With so much Balkanization in the information
>>>>> world it can be difficult for the birding community to find such
>>>>> information in a timely manner. Perhaps we could create a Telephone Tree
>>>>> Network where a report is provided to a person at the top of Tree who then
>>>>> calls selected birders on the next level down, then each of those notified
>>>>> people can call other on the next lower level. Or, instead of this ’50’s
>>>>> era system we could just use the Listserv that we’ve had in AZ since the
>>>>> ’90’s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Ditch
>>>>> Phoenix
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Doug Jenness <dougjenness...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 September 2024
>>>>>
>>>>> Arizona Birds
>>>>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/A9XZCqAWOqf8k1zx2sQbxcG?<domain...>,
>>>>> the online journal of the Arizona Field Ornithologists, has just posted a
>>>>> new article
>>>>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/rQoICrgWPrT8nr1zmsyqfkE?<domain...> >>>>> on Arizona's first reported Curlew Sandpiper in July. You'll want to
>>>>> check out this article with its photos. While you're at the journal you may
>>>>> want to look at earlier articles about first state records of other
>>>>> shorebirds including American Woodcock
>>>>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Nh0ACvm6WyF7LE2PlSoOxlY?<domain...> >>>>> and Black Turnstone
>>>>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/DAa4Cwn6XzHGVvA4NC8GUSH?<domain...> >>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Jenness
>>>>> Tucson, Az
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