Date: 9/5/24 6:44 am From: Tom Hildebrandt <tomhildebrandt2012...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ report
Thank you Laurie. All this discussion and you're the first to give us
anything regarding access to discord.
Tom
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 6:40 AM Laurie Nessel <laurienessel...> wrote:
> For those of us old geezers who are flexible and interested in keeping up
> with the times, the link to the birding Discord is https://discord > .gg/aBZspm5v
> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/V1EGCk6WGkCO5VKBWs2lTc1?<domain...> > .
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> Laurie Nessel
> 602.391.4303
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:32 PM Byard Miller <byardm...> wrote:
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>> Amen Mr Ditch!
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>> Why abandon a system that has been so productive for years.
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>> I know nothing about Discord but assume it is yet another social media
>> app that will find a way to mine my personal info. I abandoned FB many
>> years ago. No TikTok for me. If the list serve gets abandoned it will be a
>> loss for the birding community.
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>> Sent from Byard's iPhone
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>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 8:06 PM, Richard Ditch <richardditch...> wrote:
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>> Pierre:
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>> Thanks for replying. But you seem to be missing an important point here -
>> who ever told those of us that this decision had been made? How are those
>> of us who have been using the AZ List for almost 30 years supposed to know
>> that a bunch of Alpha Birders have decided to not bother sharing
>> information with those who have long contributed to the AZ birding
>> community? Who decided this was the way it would be in the future? When and
>> where was this discussed? What alternatives were considered? Who has
>> decided what birders now comprise the state birding community?
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>> I doubt if I am the only geezer birder in AZ who has a good history of
>> contributing to our state birding community. But I guess that my declining
>> mobility has now forced me out of that community.
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>> Richard Ditch. AZ Geezer former birder
>> Phoenix, AZ
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>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 7:47 PM, Pierre Deviche <Pierre.Deviche...>
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>> For the record - not that it matters much either way - after discovering
>> the Gila Bend Curlew Sandpiper last July, I posted on Discord and NOT on
>> the AZ List. The AZ Discord channel now has ~1,000 members and seems to be
>> the preferred mode of communication and rapid information exchange within
>> the state birding community - for good reasons, as Jacob explains in his
>> message.
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>> Pierre Deviche.
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>> *From:* Jacob Bagley <jacobboutdoors...>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2024 18:49
>> *To:* Elizabeth Farquhar <liz.farquhar51...>
>> *Cc:* Richard Ditch <richardditch...>; AZ List <
>> <aznmbirds...>; Pierre Deviche <deviche...>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ report
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>> Or, Richard, we could use the Arizona Rare Birds and Discussion Discord
>> that was recently created by young birders. It now has 1000 members, and
>> has proven to be a fast and effective means of spreading the word of all
>> manner of bird sightings. Additionally, the discussion aspect of it allows
>> the community to connect on a wide manner of topics from conservation to
>> bird id help to avian science.
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>> This “telephone tree” system that you reference, as well as this
>> listserv, are simply more dated means of communication. If you’re looking
>> for the best way to hear about rare birds, I highly recommend joining the
>> Discord. Birding is changing just like everything else in the world, and
>> it’s much better to grow and adapt with it than be left behind. Hope to see
>> you on the Discord!
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>> Respectfully,
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>> Jacob Bagley, AZ Young Birder
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:30 Elizabeth Farquhar <liz.farquhar51...>
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>> Hear hear! I'm for using this list service.
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>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 2:48 PM Richard Ditch <richardditch...>
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>> I’d like to thank Pierre Deviche for the timely posting of information
>> about the Curlew Sandpiper he discovered in Gila Bend on July 20, 2024. It
>> is always so nice to see such reports of rarities here on the AZ List so
>> that all AZ birders know about them without the need to check ebird,
>> facebook, and even Discord. With so much Balkanization in the information
>> world it can be difficult for the birding community to find such
>> information in a timely manner. Perhaps we could create a Telephone Tree
>> Network where a report is provided to a person at the top of Tree who then
>> calls selected birders on the next level down, then each of those notified
>> people can call other on the next lower level. Or, instead of this ’50’s
>> era system we could just use the Listserv that we’ve had in AZ since the
>> ’90’s.
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>> Richard Ditch
>> Phoenix
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>> On Sep 4, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Doug Jenness <dougjenness...> wrote:
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>> 4 September 2024
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>> Arizona Birds
>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/S_bfCl8WJlt2XJVEnS99pzy?<domain...>,
>> the online journal of the Arizona Field Ornithologists, has just posted a
>> new article
>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/qttFCm7WKmIjWwglJFB83wF?<domain...> >> on Arizona's first reported Curlew Sandpiper in July. You'll want to
>> check out this article with its photos. While you're at the journal you may
>> want to look at earlier articles about first state records of other
>> shorebirds including American Woodcock
>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/De5QCnGWL0c7m0PDOTZ8zLt?<domain...> >> and Black Turnstone
>> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/vCBkCoAWMofrvNgYqiOVv7k?<domain...> >> .
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>> Doug Jenness
>> Tucson, Az
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