Date: 9/5/24 6:40 am From: Laurie Nessel <laurienessel...> Subject: Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ report
For those of us old geezers who are flexible and interested in keeping up
with the times, the link to the birding Discord is https://discord .gg/aBZspm5v.
Laurie Nessel
602.391.4303
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:32 PM Byard Miller <byardm...> wrote:
> Amen Mr Ditch!
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> Why abandon a system that has been so productive for years.
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> I know nothing about Discord but assume it is yet another social media app
> that will find a way to mine my personal info. I abandoned FB many years
> ago. No TikTok for me. If the list serve gets abandoned it will be a loss
> for the birding community.
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> Sent from Byard's iPhone
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> On Sep 4, 2024, at 8:06 PM, Richard Ditch <richardditch...> wrote:
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> Pierre:
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> Thanks for replying. But you seem to be missing an important point here -
> who ever told those of us that this decision had been made? How are those
> of us who have been using the AZ List for almost 30 years supposed to know
> that a bunch of Alpha Birders have decided to not bother sharing
> information with those who have long contributed to the AZ birding
> community? Who decided this was the way it would be in the future? When and
> where was this discussed? What alternatives were considered? Who has
> decided what birders now comprise the state birding community?
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> I doubt if I am the only geezer birder in AZ who has a good history of
> contributing to our state birding community. But I guess that my declining
> mobility has now forced me out of that community.
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> Richard Ditch. AZ Geezer former birder
> Phoenix, AZ
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> On Sep 4, 2024, at 7:47 PM, Pierre Deviche <Pierre.Deviche...> wrote:
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> For the record - not that it matters much either way - after discovering
> the Gila Bend Curlew Sandpiper last July, I posted on Discord and NOT on
> the AZ List. The AZ Discord channel now has ~1,000 members and seems to be
> the preferred mode of communication and rapid information exchange within
> the state birding community - for good reasons, as Jacob explains in his
> message.
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> Pierre Deviche.
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> *From:* Jacob Bagley <jacobboutdoors...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2024 18:49
> *To:* Elizabeth Farquhar <liz.farquhar51...>
> *Cc:* Richard Ditch <richardditch...>; AZ List <
> <aznmbirds...>; Pierre Deviche <deviche...>
> *Subject:* Re: [AZNMbirds] Curlew Sandpiper--article on first AZ report
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> Or, Richard, we could use the Arizona Rare Birds and Discussion Discord
> that was recently created by young birders. It now has 1000 members, and
> has proven to be a fast and effective means of spreading the word of all
> manner of bird sightings. Additionally, the discussion aspect of it allows
> the community to connect on a wide manner of topics from conservation to
> bird id help to avian science.
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> This “telephone tree” system that you reference, as well as this listserv,
> are simply more dated means of communication. If you’re looking for the
> best way to hear about rare birds, I highly recommend joining the Discord.
> Birding is changing just like everything else in the world, and it’s much
> better to grow and adapt with it than be left behind. Hope to see you on
> the Discord!
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> Respectfully,
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> Jacob Bagley, AZ Young Birder
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 17:30 Elizabeth Farquhar <liz.farquhar51...>
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> Hear hear! I'm for using this list service.
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 2:48 PM Richard Ditch <richardditch...> wrote:
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> I’d like to thank Pierre Deviche for the timely posting of information
> about the Curlew Sandpiper he discovered in Gila Bend on July 20, 2024. It
> is always so nice to see such reports of rarities here on the AZ List so
> that all AZ birders know about them without the need to check ebird,
> facebook, and even Discord. With so much Balkanization in the information
> world it can be difficult for the birding community to find such
> information in a timely manner. Perhaps we could create a Telephone Tree
> Network where a report is provided to a person at the top of Tree who then
> calls selected birders on the next level down, then each of those notified
> people can call other on the next lower level. Or, instead of this ’50’s
> era system we could just use the Listserv that we’ve had in AZ since the
> ’90’s.
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> Richard Ditch
> Phoenix
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> On Sep 4, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Doug Jenness <dougjenness...> wrote:
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> 4 September 2024
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> Arizona Birds
> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/VFnoCVJz4qfxgrBZDHGxltI?<domain...>,
> the online journal of the Arizona Field Ornithologists, has just posted a new
> article
> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/orAcCWWA5rT5D734AHx1GZW?<domain...> > on Arizona's first reported Curlew Sandpiper in July. You'll want to
> check out this article with its photos. While you're at the journal you may
> want to look at earlier articles about first state records of other
> shorebirds including American Woodcock
> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/Y4YRCXYBgvfXOvA9xcD-5XR?<domain...> > and Black Turnstone
> <https://url.usb.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/ZBF7CYVDjwfLARY9zTVlVmT?<domain...> > .
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> Doug Jenness
> Tucson, Az
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