Date: 4/27/24 1:26 am From: Hans-Joachim Feddern via Tweeters <tweeters...> Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Magnificent Frigatebird
When living in Littleton, Colorado I saw a Frigatebird, which turned out to
be the first state record. I did not have a camera with me, so no photo,
but I had a witness and I was familiar with it from STt. Thomas, Virgin
Islands. Of course my sighting was not accepted, especially since we had
just moved to Colorado. Then the bizarre story unfolded two weeks later:
the bird attacked a windsurfer on a reservoir and was stoned and killed.
Eventually it was turned over to the Denver Museum of Natural History and
now rests in a drawer there as a skin! Now there was proof and everybody
believed me!
Good Birding!
Hans
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:47 AM Robert Gray via Tweeters <
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> I believe that most rare birds that we observe are doomed to never seeing
> another member of their species and that their lives are a tragedy. I try
> to never experience joy from another's suffering and will not drive for
> miles to experience it close up.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 07:18:32 AM PDT, Dennis Paulson via Tweeters <
> <tweeters...> wrote:
>
>
> Tweets, I was on the Washington Bird Records Committee for many years, and
> I agree strongly with Steve’s comments. Those items in his last paragraph
> never convinced any reviewer. There has to be a good description at the
> least, and much better than that a photo, even a mediocre one.
>
> I have been looking at the eBird rarities daily reports for some time now,
> and they contain quite a few observations that are very unlikely, with no
> documentation. “Merlin said” is fraught with difficulty, as Merlin makes
> mistakes all the time, and I don’t think it should ever be used as evidence
> of a bird rare at that place or time. Whenever that happens, the observer
> should make every effort to see the bird.
>
> I have much sympathy for all the vetters who put time and energy into
> figuring out which of those observations is valid. And please think about
> the fact that every misidentification in eBird compromises its value. It
> was set up as an aid to our gaining a deep understanding of bird
> distribution, abundance, and seasonality, and that makes those data
> priceless, as long a they are correct.
>
> Dennis Paulson
> Seattle
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:30 AM, Steve Hampton via Tweeters <
> <tweeters...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a reviewer, but I've watched eBird best-practices presentations
> and talked to reviewers about how to describe a flagged (rare) bird.
>
> They want a description of what you saw, meaning at least 3 field marks,
> vocalizations if any, and the context -- angle, lighting, distance -- how
> good of a look you got, etc. Someone should be able to read your
> description and guess the species just from your description. Obviously,
> even a poor photo or audio is great. Audio can be gotten with a cell phone
> pretty easily.
>
> Descriptions such as "Clearly identified" "I know this species" "front
> yard" "highlight of the day" "Merlin said" and "yep" don't help the
> reviewer evaluate the record.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:14 AM Michael Price via Tweeters <
> <tweeters...> wrote:
>
> Hi tweets
>
> This issue of acceptance/rejection of extraordinary rarity reports has
> always been a fraught one, leading to frustration on either side of the
> rarities committee: on one side, irritation with undocumented, possibly
> frivolous reports; on the other, frustration and resentment at sometimes
> haughty and insensitively bureaucratic committee dismissal. It doesn't
> have to be this way. There is a simple workaround: the 'pending' file.
> This category ensures that potentially valid
> migrational/dispersion/trending data are not lost.
>
> Longer ago than I care to think, I operated a Rare Bird Alert for five
> years, and I became suspicious of a connection between a cluster of
> undocumented reports of subtropical vagrants in the Greater Vancouver
> region and BC generally and a then-occurring El Nińo episode. Lacking
> documentation, none of them could be accepted under then-current committee
> acceptance protocols at either the metro or the provincial committees. The
> same lack of flexibility existed in many US and Canadian committees. The
> result? data lost.
>
> Well, we now know that many of these tropical and subtropical rarities
> which heat up our alerts are climate refugees, whether displaced by global
> heating or cyclical atmospheric phenomena such as El Nińo. But how much of
> the early warnings were lost for want of a 'pending' category in our
> rarities committees?
>
> best wishes, m
>
>
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