Date: 3/31/21 4:47 pm
From: kathleen Anderson <andersonka...>
Subject: Re: Black Vulture depredation
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I was wondering what county you are telling about.
Kathleen Anderson, Columbia


From: "Goodwin, Tommy J. (Student)" <tjgbp7...>
To: "mobirds" <MOBIRDS-L...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 8:59:46 AM
Subject: Re: Black Vulture depredation

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Growing up we raised cattle and didn't really have an issue with black vultures (BLVU); however, since I have moved away from home, I have heard the neighbors and my family have both had issues with vultures mutilating/killing their livestock. My guess is that I never saw that growing up because BLVU were so much less populous than they are now, but maybe I just never noticed them. The other side is that the general farmer did not realize that anything changed with the vultures because they are not birdwatchers and do not know the difference between a turkey vulture and a black vulture; luckily many news outlets have actually done a decent job describing what is not a black vulture in other states (Arkansas is the state that immediately comes to mind).

From what I have heard from my family and the neighbors is that the black vultures tend to go after immediately newborn calves that are still wet with afterbirth and are not yet mobile. Our family has also lost a cow, most likely, to a BLVU during birth. My stepfather said that the cow was having trouble passing the calf, as they often do, and when he got out there to pull the calf a few vultures had pulled the intestines out of the cow. I assume he had to put that cow down, so I attribute that loss of the cow to vultures as well even though it could be argued that the same outcome may have occurred without vultures present. I know our neighbor has lost at least one calf, but I do not know if that trend continued or not. That vulture was caught in the act and the calf was still alive, but it did not survive the night.

Edge stated that she could not find any videos of vultures actively attacking a calf, but I found two that, although there is no vulture-calf contact, it seems pretty evident to me that without cow or human intervention the vultures would have succeeded. The first video is not graphic, but the second video does show a mutilated calf actively being eaten by BLVU. The author of the second video is based in the UK, but the vultures still appear to be black vultures; my assumption that he is traveling somewhere within BLVU range when the video was recorded.

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpEHAeveHQ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpEHAeveHQ ]

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLVdG7qw2k | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLVdG7qw2k ]

In no way am I against black vultures, but at the same time, I do understand the concern for farmers.

Tommy J. Goodwin Jr., M.S., P.E.
St. Charles, MO
(417)241-9189


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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 9:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Black Vulture depredation
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I googled Black Vultures Killing Calves and looked at several videos. There were several statements about the vultures attacking animals, and finding dead animals with vultures on/near them, but none I found actually showed vultures killing calves. What am I missing?

Also, one of the videos actually showed a cut of a Turkey Vulture while the man was talking about Black Vultures. That takes us back to Jeff's comment--most people don't know the difference between the species, and lack of understanding of the scavengers' role is likely to lead people to kill Turkey Vultures.

Edge Wade
Columbia, MO


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Here is an article about black vultures killing calves.

A rancher has to feed and water a cow for a year in order to have a calf
out of her, and to have that calf immediately killed by black vultures
once it is born is a big loss to the farmer.

Google "black vultures killing calves" and you can see videos of the black
vultures attacking calves.


https://apnews.com/article/1e599a52651145bbb885a1224c060452

Valerie Dent
Cole Camp, Benton County


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> Interesting that a federal permit program is being administered through
> an entity that does not have wildlife ecology and management in its
> wheelhouse.
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> Dana Ripper
> Arrow Rock MO
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>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Media.com <edgew...> wrote:
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>> The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has established a permit system for
>> Missouri farmers/ranchers to kill Black Vultures causing depredation to
>> livestock. The program will be administered through the Missouri Farm
>> Bureau. See:
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>> https://mofb.org/missouri-farm-bureau-announces-black-vulture-depredation-permit/
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>> The permits are for agriculture only, so this program does not address
>> the problems being experienced at state parks and boat accesses where
>> Black Vultures have been damaging automobile soft trim parts and other
>> items such as door trim on buildings.
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>> Edge Wade
>> MBS Conservation Partnership Coordinator
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