Date: 3/14/21 5:18 pm
From: zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw...>
Subject: Re: [hmbirds] possible Pink-footed Goose, Saratoga lake
Continuing the ID discussion - Tom Johnson contacted me and agrees that
this is likely the ON/PA bird. Tundra/Taiga is a messy ID but that bird
seems to have been accepted as Tundra by most. The fairly strong grin
patch and shortish bill with limited orange should point towards Tundra
over Taiga. (NYSARC may have to rule on this one.) Pink-footed goose is
smaller than this bird, with a shorter bill, darker breast, grayer back,
and whiter tail. Kudos to David DiSiena for initially finding this bird
and to Gregg and Cathy for relocating it and getting IDable photos. This
is a first state record.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 5:09 PM gregg recer <gregg.recer...> wrote:

> checking ebird photos from the tundra BG in the Philadelphia area over
> dec 20 - jan 21; very similar looking in terms of the bill pattern and
> shape; possibly the same individual?
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 4:53 PM gregg recer <gregg.recer...> wrote:
>> wow, excellent. The best photos I could come up with included in this
>> ebird checklist. Back and flank tone very similar and dark in full
>> side-view photos. Hard to make much on the tail, but one side view seems to
>> show very little white edging. All consistent with bean. Limited orange
>> band on the bill indicative of Tundra? Forehead shape should be somewhat
>> steeper/less sloped compared to Taiga; photos might be consistent with
>> somewhat steeper forehead.
>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 4:32 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <zachsw...>
>> wrote:
>>> It’s a bean goose, probably tundra. Being seen now in the trailer park
>>> next to state boat launch.
>>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 3:53 PM gregg recer <gregg.recer...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> gotta admit that didn't occur to us. I'm going through the photos now;
>>>> no flight shots, so views of tail or upper-wing surface are likely limited.
>>>> Seems like back/folded wings contrast dark compared to chest color. I put
>>>> this is ebird for the moment as goose sp., with discussion; and
>>>> photos/further observations hopefully clarifying the ID.
>>>> Thanks Zach.
>>>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 2:49 PM zach schwartz-weinstein <
>>>> <zachsw...> wrote:
>>>>> This looks suspiciously bean-gooseish. Try to get photos of the tail
>>>>> if possible
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 2:38 PM gregg_recer <gregg_recer...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Cathy and I are now looking at another Anser goose at the state boat
>>>>>> launch at the outlet of Saratoga lake. appears to be a Pink-footed, perhaps
>>>>>> the same as reported a couple of days ago by David de Siena at lock 2? with
>>>>>> canadas on shore edge north of the bridge on the east side close to the
>>>>>> corner of the entry road.
>>>>>> this one has a dark brown head and neck with dark striations on the
>>>>>> side of the neck, no white on the face, a stubby dark bill with limited
>>>>>> orangey toward the tip. the leg color is more orange than pink, but some
>>>>>> pfgo photos seem to show the color as variable. close views of some photos
>>>>>> show pink toes vs more orange tibio-tarus. preliminary back of camera and
>>>>>> digiscope shots attached.
>>>>>> Gregg Recer
>>>>>> <gregg_recer...>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> gregg recer
>>>>>> malta NY
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
>>>>> 203 500 7774
>>>> --
>>>> Gregg Recer
>>>> <gregg_recer...>
>>> --
>>> Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
>>> 203 500 7774
>> --
>> Gregg Recer
>> <gregg_recer...>
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> Gregg Recer
> <gregg_recer...>
Zach Schwartz-Weinstein
203 500 7774

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