Date: 1/4/21 7:35 am
From: Simon Thompson (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: Deflated, but makes since and very glad to know th...
Thanks Mike and Kent
I have been wondering where our Buncombe County, NC Egyptian Geese have
been coming from and I doubt very much if there's a local wildfowl park
from where they keep escaping. Our local population varies a little, but
there are 4-6 birds around Lake Julian Park and at other localities in the
county. Birds have paired off, but no evidence of nesting has been
As to where these birds are coming from; I doubt South Florida. I have
discovered there are lots of reports on eBird from Sparta in Central
Georgia. I believe there is a turf farm (not open for visitors) where there
have been over 20 birds reported on multiple occasions since 2017. It's
only 165 miles (as the goose flies) from Sparta to Asheville, so it's not
unreasonable to believe our birds originate from this GA population. It
would certainly be easier to find out this information if all of the
reports were in eBird from Georgia to the Carolinas. It's probably only a
matter of time before they are widespread throughout the southeast. I doubt
if they would have any problem with the weather here in the winter as they
are now common and widespread in most of western Europe.
I for one enjoy seeing them as they're an attractive addition to our local

Simon RB Thompson

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On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:41 AM mresch8702 <carolinabirds...> wrote:

> Per the latest ABA update on the countability of exotics, ABA now
> recognizes 3 established populations of Egyptian Geese as "countable" per
> their rules. These locations are the Los Angeles region, central TX, and
> FL (principally south FL). Here's a link to their most recent update -
> <;!!OToaGQ!7tbIpUDiAZAG2KJl0jaiK9yStKz0QFQcWf27-RS_1FcRyCcGLhPxQHo-YaqYoKdDmyI$>
> They stress in that article - "Your life list is your own, of course, but
> the current RSEC position is that birds from any of the populations listed
> below may be counted by birders wishing to do so if seen during or after
> the year provided."
> Mike Resch
> Hendersonville, NC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Hoffman <carolinabirds...>
> To: kent fiala <kent.fiala...>
> Cc: carolinabirds <carolinabirds...>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2021 8:02 pm
> Subject: Re: Deflated, but makes since and very glad to know th...
> Hi -
> I believe Egyptian Geese are included on the ABA Checklist as established
> exotics because of a fairly large breeding population in Texas, and maybe
> in Florida as well. I saw them in multiple locations near San Antonio in
> 2018. I do not know whether ABA accepts records from other states. But
> clearly, this is a species with the potential to establish breeding
> populations in this country.
> Many years ago a drive-thru "Safari" zoo in Oregon had a substantial
> population and did not pinion all the young. some flew out and began
> nesting on gravel bars in the nearby Umpqua River. It is my understanding
> that state game biologists concluded they were unwelcome exotics and
> eliminated all the free-living ones. In any case, this demonstrates they
> are capable of surviving winters at least as sever as NC winters, so these
> geese deserve monitoring to see if they spread and increa se in numbers.
> Wayne Hoffman
> Wilmington
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "carolinabirds" <carolinabirds...>
> To: "carolinabirds" <carolinabirds...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:19:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Deflated, but makes since and very glad to know th...
> Egyptian Goose is eBirded almost every day, and has been for years, as
> those of use who have statewide eBird needs alerts know all too well.
> Kent Fiala
> On 1/3/2021 5:14 PM, Gary Harbour (via carolinabirds Mailing List) wrote:
> > Alan, No problem. I recorded them myself the first time I saw them.
> There w as also a White Cheeked Pintail for a long time. I think someone
> near by must raise exotics.
> >
> >> On Jan 3, 2021, at 4:33 PM, <8287789273...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Deflated, but makes since and very glad to know this... thanks for
> sharing! Didn't see Eared Grebe which was seen there also...

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