In the spirit of Mr. Sonnet’s response moving on to something maybe all of us can enjoy... Our redpoll flock continues and at times has been as strong as 60+ birds. What a winter. I hope all will enjoy this image from a couple days ago when snow squalls were popping through and the birds were active. Cheers and a happy new year.
P.S.- Menard's is giving away their leftover Christmas trees for FREE. Great bird cover near feeders for those that may need some.
This group was designed to bring folks with like interest (in this case bird watching) together. Strongly expressed opinions on almost any other subject (cats, guns, eating meat, abortion, religion, politics, etc. etc.) in the end will divide us. That is why there are other groups that specialize in these types of debates. I am 77 and have been watching birds all my life and have many friends who enjoy the hobby with me. Almost all disagree with each other on some subject, but we get together to celebrate our like interest. Most have the maturity to leave their differences aside and treat everyone with respect and enjoy what we have in common. With that being said, my vote is to stick with birds.
Thank you, Josh, for being the voice of reason. I agree that if one opinion needs to be honored, all should be. I agree with Patrick. I also agree with other posters who say all birders or, more appropriately, all people deserve courtesy and respect and that discussions about race are important. I just don’t think this board is the place to have them or that it should be used to promote one’s social agenda. As for “if you don’t like the post, don’t read it”, that’s nearly impossible. I don’t know what the post is about until I read it and, once read, it can’t be un-read if it’s objectionable to me. I subscribe to Birders to learn about/find news about birds. There are plenty of other forums for posting links and having discussions about social issues. Can we please stick to birds and the occasional butterfly?
Those speaking positively about the article are sharing their opinion no differently than the “PB” who posted their opinion. Just because you may not agree with the person doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion. They wondered if this was the right place for the article. The list owner decided it was. Seems done to me.
I have been on this list for perhaps 2 decades. From the beginning, it has never been appropriate to complain to the entire list about what may or may not be within the (rather broad) guidelines of the list. Those inquiries are always to be addressed only to the listowner.
The posting in question merely provided a link that can be visited, or not, without providing any commentary on the content. Responses to this post, including mine, expressed approval and interest in the content, but did not share any details of that content. So, what could possibly be objectionable about that?
The content at the link discusses, among other things, how we should understand our fellow birders, appreciate the feelings and experiences of our fellow birders, understand how history has affected our fellow birders, explore ways to improve relationships with our fellow birders, and how we should respect our fellow birders. Anyone can disagree with these points of course, but specific arguments should be made on the content, not by attempts to shut these important conversations down.
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