Date: 12/30/20 11:54 am
From: Joshua Haas <joshuahaas...>
Subject: Re: [birders] Orion Magazine | 9 Rules for the Woke Birdwatcher
Those speaking positively about the article are sharing their opinion no differently than the “PB” who posted their opinion. Just because you may not agree with the person doesn’t mean they can’t have an opinion. They wondered if this was the right place for the article. The list owner decided it was. Seems done to me.


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On Dec 30, 2020, at 14:15, Lisa Lava-Kellar <lisalk...> wrote:


I completely agree with those of you who have spoken up about the odd and recent message from PB.

Thanks to each of you for sharing your thoughts. I wholeheartedly support each of your sentiments.
Lisa


On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM 'Marta Manildi' via Birders <birders...><mailto:<birders...>> wrote:
I loved the post and appreciated it. The introduction to Orion Magazine was an added bonus.
Marta





On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:05 AM, Jchordash <jchordash...><mailto:<jchordash...>> wrote:

Allen,

Thank for expressing my sentiments. You said it better than I could.

JC

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Allen Chartier <amazilia3...><mailto:<amazilia3...>> wrote:


I have been on this list for perhaps 2 decades. From the beginning, it has never been appropriate to complain to the entire list about what may or may not be within the (rather broad) guidelines of the list. Those inquiries are always to be addressed only to the listowner.

The posting in question merely provided a link that can be visited, or not, without providing any commentary on the content. Responses to this post, including mine, expressed approval and interest in the content, but did not share any details of that content. So, what could possibly be objectionable about that?

The content at the link discusses, among other things, how we should understand our fellow birders, appreciate the feelings and experiences of our fellow birders, understand how history has affected our fellow birders, explore ways to improve relationships with our fellow birders, and how we should respect our fellow birders. Anyone can disagree with these points of course, but specific arguments should be made on the content, not by attempts to shut these important conversations down.

Allen T. Chartier
Inkster, Michigan
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 5:30 PM Patrick Baize <pkbaize...><mailto:<pkbaize...>> wrote:

does this really belong on birder's it looks and sounds like someone's personal, social and political viewpoint. Certainly not views that I share.
Pat B. Howell, Michigan

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:31:43 PM EST, <juliet.berger...><mailto:<juliet.berger...>> wrote:


Posted to Washtenaw Audubon’s Facebook page, along with other thought provoking articles that April has shared in the last few months. Thanks, April.
Juliet Berger

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 4:53 AM, April Campbell <adc14...><mailto:<adc14...>> wrote:
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> Drew keeps on. God bless him.
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> https://orionmagazine.org/article/9-rules-for-the-woke-birdwatcher/
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> Sent from my iPhone
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