Date: 11/13/20 11:36 am
From: Dave Haupt <dhaupt...>
Subject: [obol] Re: An interesting Empid at Hatfield Lake on November 10
Just so much more gray than I would expect plus a distinct white throat,
not at all yellow and more obscure in western. ?

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:32 AM Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
wrote:

> Fascinating. I did not realize they could be so unyellow. I took the color
> as eliminating Western.
>
> Alan Contreras
> Eugene, Oregon
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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Richard Hoyer (Redacted sender
> birdernaturalist for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply...> wrote:
>
> ´╗┐Hi Bill and All,
>
>
> I'd rather agree with Maitreya and Paul Sullivan that this is a Western
> Flycatcher. The lack of green and yellow you'd come to expect could be a
> combination of age, wear/bleaching, and an artifact of the light and
> digital rendering of colors. Having said that, first fall Western
> Flycatcher can look brownish as on the back in this bird, and one photo (ML
> 279532961) does show a yellowish tinge remaining on the breast that should
> be absent on most other empids, especially in a worn/bleached state. (I
> don't think there's anything on this bird that suggests Yellow-bellied or
> Acadian.) But the bushy-crested look as well bill size and shape (long,
> deep, and wide-based) seem to fit that "species" best. The almond-shaped
> eyering is also good for Western, but it's reduced from a typical
> fresh-plumaged bird and such an eyering can be seen also on Hammond's and
> Dusky.
>
> Amazing find on such a late date.
>
> Good Birding,
>
> Rich
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> Rich Hoyer
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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 4:53 PM, bill shelmerdine <georn1...> wrote:
>
> All,
> While birding Hatfield Lake a couple of days ago I encountered an
> interesting empid. I have been on the road, just returned home today and
> downloaded some digi-scoped photos of the bird and entered the trip list
> into ebird. I have yet to work out the I.D. and would welcome any comments
> or suggestions. Could lead to some interesting discussion and a chance to
> learn. Photos and notes can be found here:
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S76175560
> Bill Shelmerdine
> Olympia WA
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>
>

 
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