Date: 11/12/20 8:57 pm
From: Craig Miller <gismiller...>
Subject: [obol] Re: An interesting Empid at Hatfield Lake on November 10
Thanks Tom,

I inadvertently left out Least Flycatcher. I agree with your additional


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 8:46 PM Tom McNamara <tmcmac67...> wrote:

> Hello all,
> Craig did a pretty good run down of eliminating features of various other
> empids occuring in the U.S. and arrived at Dusky flycatcher, and I agree
> with that call. (In answer to the question you posed though,Craig, "am I
> missing something" -- yes just a smidgen, but not on the ID---- there are
> a couple unmentioned species missed for for all-inclusive
> consideration/elimination: 1)-Buff-breasted (HIGHLY unlikely up here, and
> this isn't one...because it just isn't ;-) and 2) Least Flycatcher
> which, I don't believe this bird is: this bird's bill is too thin and is
> blackish on part of lower mandible, wing covert contrast is not too
> apparent either. I believe Hammond's too can be eliminated with not too
> much uncertainty because the primary projection is revealed well in a
> number of pics and it is quite short---these primaries barely/don't even
> reach the lower end of the undertail coverts---in Hammond's the prim.
> projection extends well beyond them.
> my take. good birding all, Tom
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 4:54 PM bill shelmerdine <georn1...>
> wrote:
>> All,
>> While birding Hatfield Lake a couple of days ago I encountered an
>> interesting empid. I have been on the road, just returned home today
>> and downloaded some digi-scoped photos of the bird and entered the trip
>> list into ebird. I have yet to work out the I.D. and would welcome any
>> comments or suggestions. Could lead to some interesting discussion and a
>> chance to learn. Photos and notes can be found here:
>> Bill Shelmerdine
>> Olympia WA

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