Date: 7/27/20 11:19 pm
From: Andy Thomas <dmarc-noreply...> (Redacted sender adt0611 for DMARC)
Subject: [obol] Re: Jay or hawk?
I don't think that's what I heard...but, I have been wrong before....

On Monday, July 27, 2020, 7:13:31 PM PDT, Roy Lowe <roy.loweiii...> wrote:

Actually, if you spend some time along the US coastline you’ll see jayhawks flying back and forth in some locations. That is, Sikorsky HH—60 Jayhawks! (see attached)

On Jul 27, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Wayne Weber <contopus...> wrote:
Oregon birders,  Perhaps it was a Jayhawk?  Oh shoot, it couldn’t be--  those are only found in Kansas!!  Wayne WeberDelta, <BCcontopus...>      From: <obol-bounce...> [mailto:<obol-bounce...>]On Behalf Of larspernorgren
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:11 PM
To: <Obol...>
Subject: [obol] Jay or hawk?  I too lean strongly toward Hawk. It sounds unusually short for a Red-tail. The trailing, slightly descending end of the call is abbreviated. But l have sort of given up trying. Where l live the Steller's Jay's were imitating Goshawks for a few years. One sparkling April morning l had just returned from a walk when l heard a Goshawk call.  "There's a Steller's Jay again,"l thought. Immediately after that an adult male Goshawk flew out of a small Douglas-fir . It was only 5m above my head. About the most unequivocal look I've ever had.       Canada Jays imitate a variety of Pygmy Owl calls. They are about equally common here where l live. I presume that when tooting goes on for minutes on end it's not a jay. But in many cases l would deem it a fool's errand to try to tell the difference. At this time of year there's the added factor of young birds still acquiring a voice so to speak.     The last time l was at Luckiamute State Natural area we repeatedly heard a half familiar call. It had the cadence of a Bald Eagle.  But it wasn't the typical high-pitched nails on the blackboard squeal.  Lower pitched, slightly liquid. Someone suggested a begging juvenile BAEA and it made sense. Two juvies were in evidence several times that morning, though the calls in question always came from a bird out of sight.      I thought it incongruous that a young bird would be lower pitched than an adult.      Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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