Date: 7/26/20 5:23 pm
From: Darrel Faxon <t4c1x...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Hawk or Jay?
Good criteria. But typically the scream of a Red-tailed Hawk is stronger and more vigorous than the imitation of Steller's Jay. With practice the difference is discernable.

From: "KayCarter001" <KayCarter001...>
To: "obol" <obol...>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:10:57 PM
Subject: [obol] Re: Hawk or Jay?

I used to think I could tell the difference, but have since decided that was hubris. If it’s coming from high in the sky and there are no trees of any sort around, I definitely start looking for a red tail. If it’s coming from deep in a tree AND is accompanied by typical Steller’s “chuckling,” I’m content to smile to myself at what good mimics the jays are. In any other situation, I withhold judgement. I’ve proven myself wrong – both ways – too many times.

Kay Carter


From: <obol-bounce...> <obol-bounce...> On Behalf Of Andy Thomas
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 12:29 PM
To: OBOL Oregon Birders Online <obol...>
Subject: [obol] Hawk or Jay?

I recorded this call this morning in a wooded area where I have recently (including yesterday) seen Red-tailed Hawks, Steller's Jays and a Steller's Jay mimicking a Red-tailed Hawk. I am interested in others' opinions as to whether this is a hawk or a jay. My BirdNET app IDed it as Red-tailed Hawk -- "Almost certain" (Birdnet's highest degree of certainty; but sometimes incorrect). I filtered out some low-frequency noise, but have not otherwise fiddled with the sound.

Andrew Thomas

West Linn (Clackamas)

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