Date: 5/10/20 3:21 pm
From: Brenna <dbgaldenzi...>
Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Moose Bog
Hi Alison,
You’re absolutely right. Bear hounders start “training” their dogs on June 1st on bear, which is not only obviously cruel to the bears and vulnerable cubs, but these dogs disrupt nesting ground birds and other wildlife. The dogs’ owners are miles away and have no control over their marauding hounds. Folks can learn more about it here:

Bear hound “training” lasts all summer long and then bear hound hunting starts Sept 1 through end of Nov.

Brenna Galdenzi

Sent from my iPhone, which has been known to mess with me.

> On May 10, 2020, at 5:47 PM, alison wagner <alikatofvt...> wrote:
> The other thing I have noticed a few times I have been there...people "training" their dogs with radio collars and people with dogs to hunt bears. That can't be good for wildlife.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elinor Osborn" <0000037bc09f69f4-dmarc-request...>
> To: "Vermont Birds" <VTBIRD...>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:01:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Moose Bog
> Thanks. So it sounds like many things may be affecting them, or not. There are almost never exact answers are there?
> Elinor
> Elinor Osborn Photography
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> Craftsbury Common VT 05827
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> <elinor91...>
> On May 10, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Tom Berriman <blackpoll...> wrote:
> Hi Elinor
> Spruce Grouse are dispersed over three main areas in Essex County, Wenlock &
> West Mountain WMA's and the Conte NWR (someone will correct me if I'm wrong)
> I am not sure about the overall status and numbers of Spruce Grouse in
> Vermont. For all I know they may be doing well at other locations. However
> at the Moose Bog location (I mile by 1/3 mile area) there does seem to be
> less than just a few years ago. As short as 4 years ago I have had at least
> 3 males this time of year (flutter flights at different locations within a
> mile length of trail) and for the last 3 years can only eke out I male a
> season. In Late March 2 years ago there were 5 adults together, 2 males & 3
> females who may have been 'hanging out' together that winter.
> It is still early in the breeding season maybe another male will pop up at
> another lek along the trail. Also the habitat they like may be changing
> slightly in that particular spot. As more trees fall and spruce trees are
> replaced by other tree species and those areas that were more sheltered or
> provided cover are now open, the area may become less desirable. While the
> male doesn't seem to mind displaying in open area this time of year, the
> rest of the year they probably would like to have 'cover' more than open
> areas.
> It may be to early to make too much of these observations. I don't think the
> trail improvements or the increase in human activity and use has been the
> direct cause..yet.
> I guess what we can all do is just what good birders & photographers do and
> try not to infringe on their personal space. That sounds timely LOL. But I
> have a clock in my head and it signals when I've been 'visiting' too long.
> Tom
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