Date: 11/29/19 9:53 am From: Olin Allen <olinallen...> Subject: [obol] Re: Hawk ID help
I believe this is a juvenile red-tail, not red-shoulder. As for primary projection, it falls several inches short (i.e. very noticeably short) in red-shoulders, and just a little short in red-tails, as is the case with this bird. Although we don't have a clear view of the ventral side of this bird, it appears to have a clear upper breast and throat, which you would never see in a red-shoulder. Also, the markings on the lower breast and belly are diamond- or chevron-shaped as in red-tails, not more teardrop-shaped as in red-shoulders. In addition, the dark bands on the tail of this bird are much narrower than the light bands, as with red-tails. In juvenile red-shoulders it's the reverse, or at least the bands are of equal width. Finally, there is far too much white on the upper surface of this bird in the scapulars, and far too little patterning in the face, for it to be a red-shoulder.