Date: 10/20/19 11:04 am
From: B.G. Sloan <bgsloan3...>
Subject: [wisb] Re: Permit to kill woodpeckers
I think it's USDA that handles things like this. When I lived in Illinois
they dealt with "problem" wild turkeys and here in Jersey they deal with
"problem" geese...
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:18 PM Thomas Erdman <ErdT4...> wrote:

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Erdman
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 11:16 AM
> To: <kathijr777...>; Sandy Petersen <buboarcto2...>
> Cc: <dmarc-noreply...>; <wisbirdn...>
> Subject: RE: [wisb] Re: Permit to kill woodpeckers
>
> Sandy and Kathi, I believe that they can get a permit through APHIS under
> USDA. Wisconsin DNR appears to only to share protection to wooden
> structures. So one needs a federal permit.
>
> Now if you really wish to get discouraged you can google; USDA APHIS
> Wildlife Services. On front page they have a list on left side (Program
> Overview) of options. Select "Reports and Publications", then on that page
> select "Program Data Reports". On that page select a year at the top such
> as 2018. After clicking that the page will show some pie charts. Go the
> bottom one ; "Animals Dispersed/killed/ or Euthanized/Freed". Click on that
> and you will get a total listing for USA. On the top of that chart you can
> select "Wisconsin" and "Killed/Euthanized" and see what was done in
> Wisconsin last year! I realize this may seem a bit long, but they do have
> to report annually although they make it a bit hard to get to get to the
> numbers. 😊 Some examples,,,, "Cormorants killed 850, Sandhill Cranes
> 22, Herring Gulls 935, Starlings 15,000+, etc... You have to scan down the
> list because they report on how captured or killed, such as firearms,
> pyrotechnics, etc... and same species may b
> e listed under different types of control. Gives one a different
> perspective of what is out in the state and how WE deal with it.
>
> Tom Erdman, Oconto, WI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <wisbirdn-bounce...> <wisbirdn-bounce...> On
> Behalf Of Kathi Johnson Rock
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 8:46 PM
> To: Sandy Petersen <buboarcto2...>
> Cc: <dmarc-noreply...>; <wisbirdn...>
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Permit to kill woodpeckers
>
> This is really horrible to read about. Just one more example of how
> people are destroying our world instead of trying to save it!
> Kathi and Michael Rock
> Madison, Dane County, WI
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:42 PM Sandy Petersen <buboarcto2...>
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder who issued that permit. It is appalling after all the
> > alternate routes other people have taken to deal with this problem in
> > order to avoid harming the birds. Sandy Petersen On Sat, Oct 19, 2019
> > at 7:14 PM Paul Kinzer <dmarc-noreply...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We have a cedar sided house in a wooded area. It’s s common
> > > challenge this time of year. We’ve had large holes drilled right
> > > into our attic,
> > but
> > > choose to keep as much habitat as possible, and to discourage where
> > > we can. My measures are simply to tack up shiny mylar streamers, to
> > > put up winter roost boxes, and leave many standing snags. When
> needed, I simply
> > > repair the holes. I *want* the woodpeckers to live here. It’s
> > > disappointing that such practices are legal.
> > >
> > > I am sometimes scoffed at for saying things like “they were here
> > > first,
> > so
> > > have just as much right to live here”. We have to stand up for
> > wildlife.
> > >
> > > -Paul Kinzer
> > > Waterford
> > >
> > > > On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:09 PM, janek cieszynski (Redacted sender
> > "cieszyn"
> > > for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I’ve never heard of this! Why not trap and release somewhere in a
> > wooded
> > > area that isn’t populated? I wonder what kind of woodpeckers too. I
> > > certainly hope these permits are rare.
> > > > Laurie Cieszynski
> > > > Omro, Winnebago County
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Oct 19, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Mary Murrell (Redacted sender
> > > "mary_murrell" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I was a bit taken aback to learn on nextdoor.com that a neighbor
> > > >> of
> > > mine (in Madison) received a permit to trap and kill woodpeckers
> > > that
> > drill
> > > holes in his cedar-sided house. I thought that such permits were
> > > rarely given to homeowners and that the threshold of damage would be
> > > higher
> > than a
> > > few cedar boards. He claims nothing else worked to deter the
> woodpeckers.
> > > >> Have other folks heard of people getting permits to take birds in
> > > suburban environments like mine?
> > > >> I worry that people will now think they can easily get a permit
> > > >> to
> > kill
> > > woodpeckers for doing what woodpeckers do. The original post had
> > > asked neighbors for ideas about how to deal with a house-pecking
> > > woodpecker,
> > and
> > > there were over 40 responses, with many ideas. His was the only that
> > > involved killing the birds.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mary MurrellMonona, WI (adjacent to Madison)
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> glittering fragment of the rainbow, would not pause, admire, and turn his
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