Date: 10/18/19 6:17 pm
From: Robert O'Brien <baro...>
Subject: [obol] Re: A note on fall Kingbirds
Well, many of the Tropical Kingbird observations have been accepted by the
Oregon Birds Record Committee, which later removed TRKI from the review
list.
Here are all the records available from OBRC online. I have indicated the
observations that reported *silent *birds in bold to the right.
Previously I stated that my report of hearing the calls in Nov '86 at
Nehalem Meadows was not accepted by OBRC I DID get a letter to that
effect. But, as Jeff Gilligan told me decades later, it WAS indeed accepted
and appears in the list below. Now there are quite a few birds reported as
silent and one could perhaps
infer that the others reported the calls? Note that most of the later
reports did mention *'silent'*.but not the earlier ones.
Of course, this is just a listing of accepted reports. The actual reports
will contain the details, which could have discussed the vocalization
situation.
Interestingly, the 13 Oct 1998 observation of Western Kingbird in this
thread almost coincides with the 11 Oct 1998 report of a
silent Tropical on Grand Island and the 6 Nov 1982 Western in this thread
coincides with the protracted observations of TRKI at Newport. (both bold
italics below) The first report of TRKI in Oregon in 1970 does not appear
in this listing. Perhaps Harry didn't send it in to OBRC, or perhaps OBRC
did not exist way back then? It's never too late, Harry...............


OBRC Records available at
https://www.jack-n-jill.net/the_records_of_the_oregon_bird_records_committe.pdf

*Tropical Kingbird Tyrannus melancholicus*
446-76-01 Harris Beach SP, Curry Co., 1 on 9-10 October 1976 (SS).
446-79-02 Bandon, Coos Co., 1 on 27 October 1979 (AMc).
446-81-03 Newport, Lincoln Co., 1 on 14 October 1981 (JK; photos by RK).
First Verified Record * First Verified Record*
446-81-04 Garibaldi, Tillamook Co., 1 on 17 October 1981 (photos by VT).
446-81-05 Langlois, Curry Co., 1 on 22 October 1981 (photo by GSt).
446-82-06 Mouth of the Elk River, Curry Co., 1 on 11 June 1982.
*446-82-07 Newport, Lincoln Co., 1 on 6-15 November 1982 (EH, GB, BC, RS,
JK; photos by RK, OS).*
446-82-08 North Bend, Coos Co., 1 on 4-7 November 1982 (AMc; photos by BG).
446-83-09 Sunset Bay SP, Coos Co., 1 on 20 October 1983 (AMc).
446-83-10 Winchester Bay, Douglas Co., 1 adult on 23 October 1983 (photos
by DH, MS).
446-84-11 Pony Slough, North Bend, Coos Co., 1 on 14 September 1984.
446-84-12 Newport, Lincoln Co., 1 immature on 30 September 1984 (DI).
446-86-13 Nehalem Meadows, Tillamook Co., 2 immature birds from 4-15
November 1986 (JE; photos by TC, CM, BOB). *My Photo in NAB when I heard
calls*
446-93-14 Cape Blanco, Curry Co., 1 bird on 16 November 1993 (photos by CD).
446-93-15 Newport, Lincoln Co., 1 bird on 7 November 1993 (JJo).
446-95-16 Hdq. Malheur NWR, Harney Co., 1 bird on 27 September 1995 (photos
by AMc, DH).
446-95-17 Cape Blanco, Curry Co., 1 bird on 5 October 1995 (photos by CD).
446-96-18 Sauvie Island, Multnomah Co., 1 bird heard and seen 1-3 November
1996 (JJo, GL; photos by TJ; tape recordings by SJ). * Were calls recorded?*
446-96-19 Brookings, Curry Co., 1 adult on 17 October 1996 (EI).
446-97-20 Netarts, Tillamook Co., 2 birds on 26 October 1997 (CR).
446-97-21 Siletz Bay, Lincoln Co., 1 silent bird on 9 November 1997 (BoM).
*silent*
446-97-22 North Spit Coos Bay, Coos Co. 2 silent birds 1-30 November 1997
(DLa). * silent*
446-97-23 Near Bandon, Coos Co., 1 bird on 6 December 1997 (DLa, RHo).
446-98-24 Cape Blanco, Curry Co., 1 bird 26 July-8 August 1998 (photos by
TWa).
*446-98-25 Grand Island, Yamhill Co., 1 silent bird on 11 October 1998
(RRo). * * silent *
446-98-26 Pony Slough, Coos Co., 2 silent birds 16-19 October 1998 (DLa,
TR). * silent*
446-98-27 Cape Blanco, Curry Co., 3 birds 8-18 November 1998 (photos by
TWa).
446-99-28 Pistol River, Curry Co., 1 silent bird on 13 and 20 November 1999
(DMu). * silent*
446-99-29 Cape Blanco, Curry Co., 1 silent bird on 15 October 1999 (Twa).
* silent*
446-00-30 Coos Bay, Coos Co., 1 silent bird on 21 November 2000 (DLa).
* silent*
446-95-31 Honeyman State Park, Lane Co., 1 bird on 23 November 1995 (video
by TJ). * call on video?*
446-01-35 Flores Lake, Curry Co., 1 silent bird on 17 November 2001
(DLa,KC) * silent*

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 5:24 PM <clearwater...> wrote:

> Considering that there's no way to ever prove what they were, OK, Jeff,
> you're on!
>
> I'll bet my entire personal fortune of East German Marks, Finnish Marks,
> and Dutch Guilder that they were in fact Western Kingbirds. Might even
> throw in a few Soviet-era Rubles :-)
>
> Joel
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Jeff Gilligan" <jeffgilligan10...>
> *To: *"clearwater" <clearwater...>
> *Cc: *"Oregon Birders OnLine" <obol...>
> *Sent: *Monday, October 14, 2019 5:19:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [obol] Re: A note on fall Kingbirds
>
> I bet that they were Tropical Kingbirds, or maybe even one was a
> Cassin’s.
>
> Jeff Gilligan
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 4:55 PM, <clearwater...> wrote:
>
> Roy makes a good point regarding observer expectations.
>
> However the three mid/late Oct and early Nov reports of Western Kingbirds
> mentioned in BOGR were from 13 Oct 1998, 18 Oct 1985, and 6 Nov 1982. So
> all of these were a dozen or more years after Harry Nehls found that
> Tropical Kingbird in 1970, back when Nixon was still the one. So one
> hopes that Oregon birders would have considered TRKI as a possibility for
> those birds.
>
> --
> Joel Geier
> Greater Tampico, Benton County
>
>
>
>

 
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