Date: 10/4/19 11:26 am
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: reporting banded birds to the BBL
As a former bander I think it is good advice to report all marked birds to the BBL but I don’t know who JB is who offers this advice.

The custom on OBOL, with our 1000+ members, is to include our names and the location of named birding sites that may not be instantly obvious.

Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon

Nostalgic for Nixon….

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 11:14 AM, <shovelor...> wrote:
> ALL, I repeat ALL marked birds should be reported to the BBL... which I hope is what the consensus is here. Let there be no confusion. The birding community appreciates all your personal efforts but the information should travel down the pipeline appropriately.
> Finder/reporter -> BBL/federal Database -> individual bander
> Anything less results in a whole slough of issues including but not limited to 1.inaccurate information due to being passed through too many sources (game of telephone comes to mind) 2.individual banders manipulating data 3.something happens to a bander and they are no longer involved in the project... etc etc etc.
> The BBL exists for a reason. Use it!
> -JB
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Carole Hallett <carole.hallett...> <mailto:<carole.hallett...>> wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> Like you, I use auxiliary markers (wing tags and coded leg bands) to identify individual birds (Red-tailed Hawks). If they are sighted and reported to the Bird Banding Lab (BBL) the BBL will send that info to me but I'm pretty sure it is also retained in their system and therefore available for all of time to any future researcher who wants to look into movements or survival or whatever of translocated Red-tailed Hawks. So, even if right now you were the only one who cares where all of those color-banded SNPL are being seen, which isn't the case, by not sending the color marker sighting to the BBL all those future researchers will be missing all that valuable background info.
>> Okay, just realized I may have misread your message and what you were saying is that people don't need to send the info to the BBL if they have already sent it to you because you will send it to the BBL. If that's the case I apologize for this mini rant. As a long time bander I know it is like GOLD when I get a report that someone has seen and reported one of my birds. I absolutely want to encourage folks to report all sightings to the BBL. (now I'll probably get an irate message from them asking why I am creating all this extra work!)
>> I'll leave it here.
>> Thanks for all of your good work on behalf of our Western Snowy Plover!
>> Carole Hallett
>> Portland, OR
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:43 AM DJLauten and KACastelein <deweysage...> <mailto:<deweysage...>> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> As many of you have seen, I have been responding to reports of color
>> banded Snowy Plovers on the Oregon coast. I am doing this for several
>> reasons including I suspected many people might be interested to know
>> where these birds are from as well as trying to keep everyone interested
>> because these sightings are very important and useful to us, the
>> researchers who banded and work with the plovers. These 'resightings'
>> of banded plovers are effectively a 'recapture' of a banded bird, and
>> that information is used to do detailed survival analysis amongst other
>> things. So your sightings are extremely important and are actually used
>> in so called real science applications, similar to eBird (but actually
>> arguably even more useful!).
>> With that said, if you see a color banded Snowy Plover in Oregon,
>> technically there is no need to report these birds to the Bird Banding
>> Lab (BBL). I say this with lots of caution, because I highly encourage
>> anyone who sees a banded bird to report that bird to the BBL!!!!! The
>> researchers who band most birds are thrilled to get resightings because
>> they tend to be very rare and the information is incredibly useful to
>> them. So please do it. However, in the case of Snowy Plovers, at this
>> time it is sufficient to report the birds directly to me. The reason I
>> say this is because when you send a report of a banded Snowy Plover to
>> BBL, all they do is forward it to me anyway!!!! I am uncertain how BBL
>> stores data, but species specific data like this is forwarded by BBL to
>> the appropriate researcher as BBL does not manage nor use that
>> information for their own purposes. Yes they are the clearing house for
>> banded birds, but it is us, the actual researchers, who are responsible
>> for managing and dealing with our color banded birds.
>> So, if you see a banded bird, please do report it to BBL. But if you
>> see a color banded Snowy Plover, you do not have to send it to BBL as
>> long as you send it to me (technically if you are linked into the OPRD
>> volunteer system, if you report it to them it will also be stored for
>> our purposes). You can still send it to BBL, but note that they will
>> simply forward the information to me anyway. You do not have to do both.
>> I hope I did not muddy the waters as I do not want to discourage anyone
>> from reporting to BBL. But several emails I just received indicated
>> that they sent reports to BBL or they were going to, and there is no
>> need to do so if you sent the report to me.
>> Thanks again for all your reports, they help tell a very interesting
>> story of the recolonization of the north coast of Oregon by Snowy
>> Plovers after being absent for decades. If you work hard enough you
>> can now get Snowy Plover in ever coastal county in Oregon. Very cool.
>> Cheers
>> Dave Lauten
>> Oregon Biodiversity Information Center
>> Institute for Natural Resources
>> Portland State University
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