Date: 10/1/19 4:10 pm From: Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> Subject: [birders] Fwd: [Dplex-L] No spraying was done last night (8PM Sunday night through 4AM Monday morning) in Michigan
Forwarded with Sandra’s permission.
She is being told that so many opt-out messages were received that the resulting mosaic of parcels became unmanageable for the applicators. You think that would cancel the activity? Sandra brings up a great point. As an adulticide, and with the time from egg to adult being about 12 days, wouldn’t you have to spray every evening for 12 days in order to completely break the cycle? So, frustrated by the opt-outs, I hear the state has (at least in some cases) declared an “emergency” and has told people they may no longer opt out! Can you believe this?
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From: "Sandra Nordmark" <earthwomansn...>
Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:59 PM -0400
Subject: Re: [Dplex-L] No spraying was done last night (8PM Sunday night through 4AM Monday morning) in Michigan
To: "Fred Kaluza" <fkaluza...>
Have at it-----since I retired from the state I can (and often do!) say anything I want to and they can't fire me! Hah! I am also a birder of sorts, have had Sandhill cranes rearing young literally in my backyard for 13 or so years now. Just fed them again this am, they are grouping offsite with others readying for the fall migration. I will miss their antics!
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:46 PM Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> wrote:
That’s all CRAZY! Do you mind if I include your message to a “birders” email group I communicate with?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM -0400, "Sandra Nordmark" <earthwomansn...> wrote:
Update, since you seem to be one of the few interested: My county official tried to get his frustrated constituents like myself on the opt-out list only to be told that opting out is no longer possible as the state had declared an "emergency" and spraying will continue whenever and wherever they decide. He said he felt blindsided because there was no early info, no public input and now we are stuck with this monumental PR disaster (shades of FLINT!).
Anyway, the list of possible protections we protesters could undertake are ludicrous-----cover your vegetables and fruits, eg. I asked how to do that in orchard settings (we are still harvesting late apples) where trees are over 20' tall, got only silence for an answer. More stuff but you don't want to hear it!
Cloudy and breezy today with rain threatening (probably guaranteed as I just hung out the laundry! Ha!) later and all day tomorrow with significant amounts so maybe we will be spared awhile yet. My waterfowl hunters are p-o'd as to the hazards they may face sitting in the open in the blinds before dawn, told to delay hunting!! It just goes on. Sandy
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 4:08 PM Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> wrote:
Me thinks the 1% are afraid to tell the 94% about the 5% that don’t want their “solution”.
From: Sandra Nordmark <earthwomansn...>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 2:01 PM
To: Fred Kaluza
Subject: Re: [Dplex-L] No spraying was done last night (8PM Sunday night through 4AM Monday morning) in Michigan Still no call backs so this could get interesting! I see Alex just posted on enviromich the spraying resumes tonight in SW MI counties. Heart of the fruit belt and MI pastured hog producers. Can't believe there was no protest. Let you know what goes forward here, or hopefully not! Thx.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 12:08 PM Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> wrote:
Yeah right! Stick with it and give ‘em Hell Sandra. We’re all connected!
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:43 AM -0400, "Sandra Nordmark" <earthwomansn...> wrote:
Fred: Get <this--------eee...> was never set up as an active site!!! Unbelievable. Anyway, could not get thru to my county health dept. so my state rep, Dr. John Bizon, has a staff person trying to get me some answers on an opt out. Wonder what sorts of liability coverage the counties have if the flyboys make a mistake, etc.? Just askin'. Sandy
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 10:31 AM Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...> wrote:
Communication is key! Thanks for reaching out Sandra and good luck.
From: Dplex-L <dplex-l-bounces...> on behalf of Ilse Gebhard <gebhard.ilse...>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:16 AM
To: Monarch Watch
Subject: Re: [Dplex-L] No spraying was done last night (8PM Sunday night through 4AM Monday morning) in Michigan The opt-out worked, even with just 6 hours of notice for people to opt out!!!!!
Ilse GebhardKalamazoo MI