Date: 9/27/19 4:43 pm
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Those fall kingbirds
I thought one of yesterday’s posts or maybe this morning mentioned that the bird was heard. No?

Fortunately kingbirds tend to be noisy. Many of the ones I have seen in Oregon talked, especially on sunny days.

Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon


> On Sep 27, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Alex Lamoreaux <aslamoreaux...> wrote:
> Similar to my rant on crossbills yesterday, without vocalizations Tropical and Couch’s Kingbirds are not identifiable under field conditions. Some variation in shape of the P4 on adult males, and other subtle in-hand features can separate them but otherwise they must be recorded as Tropical/Couch’s until vocals can confirm species. Current eBird records of this Newport bird make no mention of calls and the records should be changed to the dreaded ‘slash’.
> Tropical has shown a solid pattern of northward movement up the west coast in fall in recent years (and up the east coast to a lesser extent, with overwintering in Florida etc) but Couch’s Kingbird has also greatly increased its US population in the last 10 years and should be expected as a fall vagrant throughout the country. 4+ have been confirmed by vocals in the west, and many more in the northeast and Great Lakes.
> Alex
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:26 AM <t4c1x...> wrote:
>> Given the extremely remote outside chance one of those fall kingbirds could be a Couch's Kingbird (haven't they been recorded in CA.?) does anybody in Oregon pay any attention to their vocalizations? I've seen quite a few fall Kingbirds, but only one of them ever vocalized, and it gave the typical twitter of a Tropical. All the others have been silent. What experiences have others had in this regard?
>> Darrel
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