Date: 9/24/19 8:10 am
From: Scott Hartley (via carolinabirds Mailing List) <carolinabirds...>
Subject: Re: 3 Billion birds gone
Iwould agree with Betsy. No one can do everything but we all can do one
Bird wise I was visiting a friend in NC near Todd and had a pretty good
mixed flick of migrants lots of Tennessee warblers and quite a few

Hope you all enjoy your week and that this dry weather breaks soon!

Take care.

Scott Hartley
Myrtle Beach, SC
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 8:58 AM Betsy Kane <carolinabirds...> wrote:

> Gary, Parkin, and others:
> We definitely don't have till 2050. About a year ago, scientists
> confirmed we had about 12 years to take massive action to address global
> warming to avoid much of the planet becoming incapable of sustaining human
> settlement, not to mention anything like normal ecosystems.
> We're looking at the entire Greenland ice sheet melting -- ice up to a
> mile thick that, by itself, melted, will raise sea level multiple feet.
> We're looking at refugee migrations of tens to hundreds of millions of
> people.
> Bill McKibben said last Thursday evening (at his well-attended lecture at
> East Carolina University) that "If you think the migration of a few hundred
> thousand Central American refugees to the US southern border caused
> political upheaval, imagine what 100 million climate refugees on the move
> will do."
> He said, "The question is not whether we are headed to hell, the question
> is, how hot will that hell be."
> What we do THIS YEAR -- and for the next year after that, and the year
> after that, until we reach a point of certain feedback mechanisms being
> triggered that we don't yet understand very well, but they overwhelmingly
> do not act in our favor -- determines how hot our planet will get.
> It is not hopeless. Every one of us can act.
> It's also not a binary thing -- what we do next determines a range of
> outcomes, from really bad to very bad.
> I know these words are mostly "preaching to the choir". There is value in
> the choir singing heartily.
> Some recent research on political change concludes that only 3 percent or
> so of people are necessary to create sufficient resistance action to topple
> apparently hard-fixed political regimes.
> Food for thought. Enjoy your birding day.
> Betsy Kane
> Washington, N.C.
> elevation 10'
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:39 AM Laura Ratchford <carolinabirds...>
> wrote:
>> Great post, Gary. Thank you.
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:33 AM Gary Harbour <gharbour...> wrote:
>>> All,
>>> Parkin is right. The micro stuff is stuff we can do, should do, and
>>> will make a difference. But the big picture is what the science tells us.
>>> Today habitats are moving north at 15ft/day. If we don’t figure out a way
>>> to go carbon neutral by 2050 the world will look very different from the
>>> one we live in. Right now we are veering off of a course that would only
>>> limit warming to 3C. While, average global temperature increases of 3-4C
>>> may not seem like much, it’s 5.5-7.2F. We have to remember that is an
>>> average (it will be 2 times that in the arctic) and it’s not just
>>> temperature. We all know hurricanes will be stronger because of the extra
>>> heat in the ocean, we will have larger down pours as moisture in the air
>>> increases 7% with each 1C. But by 2050, we will have desertification of
>>> large parts of our Southwest, Southern Europe, Southern Asia, and Africa
>>> leading to famine and water scarcity for 100’s of millions of people. This
>>> along with sea-level rise will mean 100’s of millions of climate refugees
>>> from the world's coastal cities. Most of the oceans today will be hot-dead
>>> zones of acidic water. There is no Planet B. Our progress, in moving to a
>>> carbon free economy is not anywhere near fast enough to avoid this fate for
>>> our (today’s) children, much less future generations. Just ask yourself,
>>> what if the Scientists are right? Listen to the science. Listen to the
>>> birds.
>>> Good Birding,
>>> Gary
>>> “We Do Not Inherit the Earth from Our Ancestors; We Borrow It from Our
>>> Children”
>>> Wendell Berry
>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Laura Ratchford (via carolinabirds Mailing
>>> List) <carolinabirds...> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Parker--you make a great point. I need to examine my cynicism
>>> about government and politics. I also wonder if there is a way to bring
>>> attention to the terrible problem of bird strikes to the corporate sector.
>>> LEEDS sustainability standards have been embraced by commercial
>>> developers--perhaps raising awareness among building owners about the
>>> terrible problem of bird deaths by window strikes--and the fixes
>>> available--could also bring real changes.
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 7:49 AM Parkin Hunter <tparkinhunter...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I agree we all should do stuff on what is really a micro level.
>>>> However, think about this as reported by Ballotpedia:
>>>> . The *federal*government owns 4.64 percent of *South Carolina's*
>>>> total *land*, 898,637 acres out of 19,374,080 total acres. *South
>>>> Carolina* ranked 30th in the nation in *federal land* ownership.
>>>> Ballotpedia › Federal_land_policy_i...
>>>> The direction government is taking on conservation is appalling.
>>>> However, to have any real inpact, government has to
>>>> change. People have to vote, maybe against their own perceived self
>>>> interest in some areas, to get better conservation laws or even get current
>>>> ones such as the MBTA and ESA enforced.. With the current gutting of the
>>>> Clean Water Act, watch how fast small wetlands are going to disappear. If
>>>> you vote only to reduce taxes and shrink goverment, my hypothesis is that
>>>> birds and everything are in big trouble. As I understand it, proposals are
>>>> out there to open Chaco Canyon to uranium mining as well as to expand
>>>> logging and mineral development in the Tongass National Forest.
>>>> Apologies for saying too much. If I offended anyone, I apologize for
>>>> that also. I feed birds and I think do a lot of conservation but am under
>>>> no delusion- illusion that this will have any noticeable or measureable
>>>> impact.
>>>> Parkin Hunter
>>>> Columbia, Ridgeway, Garden City Beach sc
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Laura Ratchford <lratch...> wrote:
>>>> Agree (sadly) about Congress. But there a few things that I know I can
>>>> do: leave snags on my property when trees die--just have them topped; cover
>>>> all windows in my house with the same film that the Toronto Zoo used with
>>>> their glass entry caused a massive number of window strikes; plant native
>>>> plants. I'd love to hear other suggestions!!! Thanks to all of you, Laura
>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:11 AM "J. Merrill Lynch" <
>>>> <carolinabirds...> wrote:
>>>>> To all of you who advocate trying to solve this problem through the
>>>>> political system I ask this question. Do you think the representatives in
>>>>> Congress represent you and your interests? If so you are comfortably
>>>>> delusional.
>>>>> Merrill Lynch
>>>>> Echo Valley Farm
>>>>> Watauga County, NC
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Simon Thompson (via carolinabirds Mailing
>>>>> List) <carolinabirds...> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Parkin
>>>>> This is not a dead horse at all- we ALL need to be talking about it,
>>>>> writing to our representatives and getting the word out that we don't like
>>>>> what this administration is doing at all.
>>>>> Keep up the good work
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> Simon RB Thompson
>>>>> Ventures Birding Tours
>>>>> <>
>>>>> Please use the Ventures e-mail (<Venturesbirding...>) to contact
>>>>> the Ventures office - thanks!
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM Parkin Hunter <carolinabirds...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I don’t think it is beating a dead horse. Look at this admitted
>>>>>> anticipated damage to bird life in coastal Alaska. If our government does
>>>>>> not change, I do not think there is really any hope.
>>>>>> <>
>>>>>> Parkin Hunter
>>>>>> Columbia, SC
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:53 PM, <badgerboy...> wrote:
>>>>>> Not to beat a dead horse, but pursuant to the news about bird
>>>>>> declines to the tune of 3 billion birds over 50 years in our continent, if
>>>>>> you'd like to see first-hand just how this is happening, then go out to
>>>>>> Phillips Gap (Milepost 266 or so in Ashe Co. on the Blue Ridge Parkway)
>>>>>> right now and see what happens when fossil fuels, earth-moving equipment,
>>>>>> and people all get together.
>>>>>> What was formerly an incredibly productive wetland and small pond
>>>>>> with lots of turtles, frogs, birds, (and I even saw an otter in there once)
>>>>>> and a densely vegetated shallow and border area, is now a smoking wreck.
>>>>>> The entire area has been bulldozed in what appears to be motivated by the
>>>>>> need to water young christmas trees from the pond's supply. There's a dead
>>>>>> snapping turtle right on the upper side of the pond. An incredibly sad, but
>>>>>> all too common sight these days as our last remaining productive ecosystems
>>>>>> are stripped away for profit. And all this in plain view from the Blue
>>>>>> Ridge Parkway.
>>>>>> The irony here is that the only thing being produced by this calamity
>>>>>> is the deluded dream of simpler times invoked by having a tree in one's
>>>>>> house during the holidays. If you care about NC appalachian mountain
>>>>>> ecosystems and all the birds they support, you might think about not buying
>>>>>> a live christmas tree this year, and in the foreseeable future. The
>>>>>> environmental destruction could be a very high price to pay for this
>>>>>> comfortable delusion.
>>>>>> In birding news I found not one but 2! Philadelphia Vireos today on
>>>>>> the Mountains to Sea Trail by US421, along with 12 species of warblers. Its
>>>>>> shaping up to be a very birdy fall migration season this year in NW NC.
>>>>>> Guy McGrane, Deep Gap, NC

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