Date: 9/11/19 5:17 am
From: <parkerj15...>
Subject: Re: [birders] What has happened?
Maybe "we" wouldn't have to trust agriculture to the under-educated if Your
Highness would do the work Himself.
Curious that you found the need to bring skin color in at the end of your
diatribe.


sent by John Parker, from mobile


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From: <birders...>
To: <birders...>
Sent: 2019-09-10 6:27:03 AM
Subject: Re: [birders] What has happened?

The biomass collapse that we are experiencing is global.

It's also happening in countries where populations are decreasing or migrating
into cities.
A fair example is Spain where urbanization has emptied the agricultural lands
and mountains of humans yet biomass is still decreasing.

What has happened globally is the use of glyphosate, neonicitinioids and
fibronil + lesser additives to increase crop yields.
We trust the production of these crops to the most under-educated and isolated
people in society.
They cheat. They don't respect the recommended doses because they think more
is better.

These crops are mostly to fed to antibiotic soaked animals for meat and dairy
production.
All the waste is soaking the land, flowing in the rivers and floating in the
air.
If you add massive use of plastics in all aspects of human life, huge
expansion of the hydrocarbon industries for land and air transportation, 24hr
noise and light pollution and, most importantly, a lack of basic education, you
have the perfect storm.

Right here, where i now live in France, there is a kid that does the bird and
butterfly survey. He is 24 years old.
So he was 12 when i moved here. I have seen a massive decline in all species
of birds and butterflies.
He has absolutely no comparison because there are no accurate studies to
compare his results to.
"Today" is the only normal he has. He thinks what he sees today is normal.
He is also a birder and He lives in a world where he could and would take a
cheap flight to Norway to go see a Surf Scoter.
The new normal.

It is crazy.
It is global, It is happening.
It is unlikely it will slow down, let alone stop.

Please be very aware how lucky you are in North America.
Massive areas of your country are protected at Federal, State and City level.

Population density is insignificant in North America.
All your migrants are in the cities. They are poor and the poor have very
little environmental impact.
There are plenty of rich white folk building massive air-conditioned mansions
on "waste" dirt.
They don't give a crap about a nighthawk and are quite happy that there are no
moths to bother them.
The new normal

FYI, It has been noted that the American Nighthawk used to be a regular autumn
vagrant in Europe but has not been seen for many years. That alone suggests
that something has happened to a once common bird.

Chris Rickards
Rohan, France.



On Tuesday, September 10, 2019, 7:13:57 AM GMT+2, Roger Kuhlman
<rkuhlman...> wrote:

Yes and I would point out that the political left in America is actively
fostering rapid population growth in our Country through Mass Immigration
because they think that is the best way for them to gain political power for
themselves and massively increase the size and scope of the Federal Government.
Ecologically not very cool.
Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor, Michigan
From: G M ARCHAMBAULT <gm72125...>
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:28 PM
To: P. swanson <jumpthroughhoops...>; Alan Ryff <alryff...>;
Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...>
Cc: Birders UM <birders...>
Subject: Re: [birders] What has happened? What's happened is too many of us
humans. Just google "population clock," and you'll see the gravity of our
situation. Political leaders NEVER touch this taboo subject. People are intent
on procreating. Unfettered except by natural disaster. Other species dwindle
and go extinct, but the population clock keeps racing upward. While the Amazon
burns, while the Bahamas flood, and while we lose species every year. Young
people don't notice these things as much as humans who have been around for
half a century or more. Can you just imagine the bird life 200 years ago
compared to now? -Ken Archambault, Birmingham, Alabama
On Sunday, September 1, 2019, 07:22:46 PM CDT, Fred Kaluza <fkaluza...>
wrote:

I was at a baseball game in Utica last night. Jimmy John’s Stadium on M-59.
Granted, the evening was a little cool but...with all the high intensity lamps
surrounding the stadium and field, during the entire game, we noticed one
flying Mantid some House Sparrows and a couple Gulls. No moths, no June Bugs,
no Mayflies, no Katydids no Cicadas and no Mosquitos. For late Summer, it did
not seem right.



On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:42 PM -0400, "'P. swanson' via Birders" <
<birders...> (mailto:<birders...>)> wrote:

It wasn’t that many years ago that I used to walk my dogs at night by St.
Michael’s Church in Grosse Pointe and both see and hear the nighthawks swooping
and diving for insects, not to mention the same at the old Tiger Stadium at
night games under the lights. It reminds me of that old Judy Collins
song,“Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s
gone,They paved paradise to put up a parking lot”.As Robert Redford once said,
“no one cares.” Sad but I’m afraid true. Just look at all the folks still
asking for plastic bags at the grocery store.We could all use more nature
time.Penny
On Sep 1, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Alan Ryff < <alryff...>
(mailto:<alryff...>)> wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/snow-shadow/albums/72157710643678203
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/snow-shadow/albums/72157710643678203)

In days gone by when today’s old men were children, ribbons of Nighthawks,
sometimes in the hundreds, would stream south just above the rooftops as the
sunset gives its deepest colors. And sometimes, the morning sunshine could find
a sleeping Nighthawk on nearly every streetlight for blocks around. Today this
is no longer so. Now and then, the neighborhoods along Lake Saint Clair see or
hear a single or perhaps a few Nighthawks at a time pass over in the evening
quiet. Alas, what has happened?

Alan




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