Date: 7/30/19 3:48 pm
From: larspernorgren <larspernorgren...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper?
The Adel titmice have been there for over 100 years that we know of. Tillamook's greatest son, Alex Walker, collected some as soon as the Model T was on the market it seems. There have been no detections in the area between Lakeview and Kfalls in the ensuing century. The fieldwork that led to the Oak/Juniper split was done on the Modoc Plateau, the California side of said landscape. Generally they Do Not hybridize there, but breed sympatrically.      I am mystified by such an off the cuff dismissal of Adel's Bæolophus bonafides. That entire border region deserves more attention. Whether it's botanizing ,birding, or butterflies, every visitor is guaranteed a steady stream of pleasant surprises. LarsSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...> Date: 7/30/19 3:14 PM (GMT-08:00) To: <aslamoreaux...> Cc: <obol...> Subject: [obol] Re: Titmouse Oak or Juniper? As far as I know there are no known specimens or otherwise proven Oak Titmouse east of California and the s. Klamath River of Oregon and all the ones in Nevada are considered Juniper.  I’m not sure if anyone has studied the ones in Lake County Oregon but I’m not sure why they’d be presumed Oak. That said, there is very little Juniper T population in nw Nevada according to the state atlas and I’m not sure where the populations connect.Joel, what’s the status around Sheldon?
Alan <Contrerasacontrer56...>, Oregonwww.alanlcontreras.com

On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Alex Lamoreaux <aslamoreaux...> wrote:Also, is there any real evidence those Adel area birds are actually Juniper... they are almost certainly hybrids or just Oak. AlexOn Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:38 PM Larry S. Goodhew <lsg...> wrote:This is a titmouse I saw 10/21/18 in Klamath Falls It may be to brownish
to be a Juniper.  Would like some feedback. Thanks. Larry Goodhew  
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