Date: 6/24/19 10:12 pm
From: Robert O'Brien <baro...>
Subject: [obol] Re: 2019 AOS Supplement
And if now we have Mountain-gems, I want my Siberian Tit back. That's one
that should never have been changed in the first place.
And what's more I want Chestnut-backed Tits, and Black-capped Tits and all
other kinds of Tits too. Now that would be tit for tat.
Bob OBrien Carver OR
The AOS isn't anything if not inconsistent. It doesn't even have a
consistent name.


Blue-throated Hummingbird ➛ *Blue-throated Mountain-gem*

Amethyst-throated Hummingbird ➛ *Amethyst-throated Mountain-gem*

Blue-throated Mountain-gem by Bettina Arrigoni

The English name of *Lampornis clemenciae* has changed from Blue-throated
Hummingbird to *Blue-throated Mountain-gem*. The same goes for *Lampornis
amethystinus, *which is now *Amethyst-throated Mountain-gem. *Why? There
are at least five (depending on whom you ask) other species of *Lampornis* in
Middle America, and they are all called “Somethingorother Mountain-gem”.
This wise move standardizes the English names of all the species in the
genus. I hope the committee follows this promising trend and gives us
Lucifer Sheartail and Bahama Sheartail next!

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 2:13 PM Jeffrey Tufts <jctufts33...> wrote:

> And then there's Lewis's Glottal Stop.
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:56 PM Lars Norgren <larspernorgren...>
> wrote:
>> Thank God the AOS kept apostrophes. Try saying aloud "Hutton Vireo",
>> Bewick Wren, Townsend Warbler...There is a glottal stop between each word.
>> It sounds like the speaker is stumbling. We are not proposing names for a
>> German list. English does not require glottal stops between every word."
>> Hutton's "and "Vireo" are glued together by a sibilant consonant that is
>> also lubricant.
>> I know we say Roosevelt Elk, no apostrophe s there. But l note
>> that B.J.Verts in "Land Mammals of Oregon" has an entry for Townsend's
>> Vole, apostrophe and all. I know that it is now "Down" syndrome, because
>> the syndrome's describer didn't have the condition himself. But l think
>> "Crohn's disease " was suffered by its epynom and thus rates a wave of the
>> pinky. But ornithology is not mammology. Ornithology is not pathology. It
>> is a big space in the English language and is free to craft it's own
>> conventions. There are no rules in English. The Oxford English Dictionary
>> observes the beast in its natural habitat to set precedent. We have been
>> calling our snipe "Wilson's" for two hundred years. I imagine other birds
>> had that little pinky waving in the air to honor other dead white men long
>> before that. So precedent is set thousands of times over.
>> Wilson Snipe. Who can deny that the speaker starts to trip between
>> descriptor and noun in that pairing? Wilson's Snipe. There's a nice ramp
>> from street level up to the sidewalk. Try going through Sibley, saying
>> every name with an apostrophe without its "s". Add those glottal stops up
>> over the coming decades and the lost time is staggering, not to mention
>> collateral damage to listeners. I believe "Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow"
>> became "Nelson's Sparrow" because even the AOS had to admit the former was
>> too long and clunky. There is hope for the æsthetics of the AOS. When they
>> take away the apostrophes to conform with the protocols of the pathologist
>> the next step will be ordering arcane robes and donning funny caps before
>> deliberating in a professional capacity.
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 12:04 PM Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> Thanks for the heads-up. The link in the first paragraph unfortunately
>>> brings up last year's supplement. The summary in your link, prepared for
>>> Birding magazine does not discuss several of the proposals under
>>> consideration, so I imagine they were not accepted. I did not expect
>>> Harlan's Hawk to be split off, but I was hopeful about the proposal for
>>> apostrophe-free names. The NACC committee members' comments should be
>>> posted before long (anonymous, likely) on the AOS website and so we can get
>>> some insight into their thinking.
>>> Wayne
>>> On 6/24/2019 10:25:21 AM, Bob Archer <rabican1...> wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> Northern Fulmar is still one species. AOS agrees that there are three
>>> White-winged Scoter species, look for Stejneger's now as a species not a
>>> subspecies. Bummer that they left 's at the end of bird names. Harlan's
>>> (Harlan) Hawk is still a Red-tailed.
>>> Bob Archer
>>> PDX

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