Date: 6/24/19 2:13 pm
From: Jeffrey Tufts <jctufts33...>
Subject: [obol] Re: 2019 AOS Supplement
And then there's Lewis's Glottal Stop.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:56 PM Lars Norgren <larspernorgren...>
wrote:

> Thank God the AOS kept apostrophes. Try saying aloud "Hutton Vireo",
> Bewick Wren, Townsend Warbler...There is a glottal stop between each word.
> It sounds like the speaker is stumbling. We are not proposing names for a
> German list. English does not require glottal stops between every word."
> Hutton's "and "Vireo" are glued together by a sibilant consonant that is
> also lubricant.
> I know we say Roosevelt Elk, no apostrophe s there. But l note
> that B.J.Verts in "Land Mammals of Oregon" has an entry for Townsend's
> Vole, apostrophe and all. I know that it is now "Down" syndrome, because
> the syndrome's describer didn't have the condition himself. But l think
> "Crohn's disease " was suffered by its epynom and thus rates a wave of the
> pinky. But ornithology is not mammology. Ornithology is not pathology. It
> is a big space in the English language and is free to craft it's own
> conventions. There are no rules in English. The Oxford English Dictionary
> observes the beast in its natural habitat to set precedent. We have been
> calling our snipe "Wilson's" for two hundred years. I imagine other birds
> had that little pinky waving in the air to honor other dead white men long
> before that. So precedent is set thousands of times over.
> Wilson Snipe. Who can deny that the speaker starts to trip between
> descriptor and noun in that pairing? Wilson's Snipe. There's a nice ramp
> from street level up to the sidewalk. Try going through Sibley, saying
> every name with an apostrophe without its "s". Add those glottal stops up
> over the coming decades and the lost time is staggering, not to mention
> collateral damage to listeners. I believe "Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow"
> became "Nelson's Sparrow" because even the AOS had to admit the former was
> too long and clunky. There is hope for the æsthetics of the AOS. When they
> take away the apostrophes to conform with the protocols of the pathologist
> the next step will be ordering arcane robes and donning funny caps before
> deliberating in a professional capacity.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 12:04 PM Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> Thanks for the heads-up. The link in the first paragraph unfortunately
>> brings up last year's supplement. The summary in your link, prepared for
>> Birding magazine does not discuss several of the proposals under
>> consideration, so I imagine they were not accepted. I did not expect
>> Harlan's Hawk to be split off, but I was hopeful about the proposal for
>> apostrophe-free names. The NACC committee members' comments should be
>> posted before long (anonymous, likely) on the AOS website and so we can get
>> some insight into their thinking.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 6/24/2019 10:25:21 AM, Bob Archer <rabican1...> wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> http://blog.aba.org/2019/06/aos2019.html?fbclid=IwAR2DzE_aUbePMHuFOnBBAU_rbGMJUJ2bLENy63rter3J1DHiAc0vnQ0_Abs
>>
>>
>> Northern Fulmar is still one species. AOS agrees that there are three
>> White-winged Scoter species, look for Stejneger's now as a species not a
>> subspecies. Bummer that they left 's at the end of bird names. Harlan's
>> (Harlan) Hawk is still a Red-tailed.
>>
>> Bob Archer
>> PDX
>>
>>

 
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