Date: 6/5/19 8:24 pm
From: Lars Norgren <larspernorgren...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Describing migrant shorebirds, was: Late Coos Shorebirds
I first encountered this notion about 1973 when l first subscribed to
American Birds. There is a pretty broad window surrounding the summer
solstice when we really don't know what's going on. Noting time and place
is about all we can do. Turning these peeps and pipers , curvebilled
snipers into vectors is idle speculation.lpn

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 8:15 PM David Bailey <davidcbaileyoregon...>

> Descriptors for migrant birds that inform the reader as to whether the
> individual(s) are migrating (north south, or otherwise) are problematic to
> assign, especially at the extreme date ranges for known migratory periods
> of the population observed. After thinking on this, I would call a
> Red-necked Phalarope seen suddenly on 18 or 20 June in Coos simply a late
> Spring bird (assuming it was prior to solstice). We can't know without more
> data on that individual whether it has just arrived in Oregon from the
> north or even from the south. It could have been over-summering somewhere
> nearby, who knows? As for calling birds in July "early Fall" birds, why not
> just "early summer" birds if not showing evidential behavior suggestive of
> a directional movement? If memory serves, I have learned that a significant
> number of second-year shorebirds stay all that year-round on their
> wintering grounds; some migrate north to a latitude somewhere short of the
> population's breeding range and then stage for the summer before heading
> back south.
> Certainly hypotheses of what behavior the birds we encounter are engaged
> in are important, but when describing the birds movement there is no
> inherent need to give a concrete descriptor when the evidence for such
> behavior is lacking or equivocal.
> Please discuss.
> David
> David C. Bailey
> Seaside, Oregon
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 17:34 Tim Rodenkirk <timrodenkirk...> wrote:
>> Last Friday the 31st there was a large flock of 37 Whimbrel and one
>> Marbled Godwit at Bandon Marsh. On the 2nd Richard and Margaret Alcorn had
>> 45 Whimbrel and the one godwit still around. Whimbrel are sometime around
>> all June so hard to say when the latest spring date is. The latest spring
>> date for godwit in Coos is 18 June and earliest “fall” arrival 5 Jul.
>> Also on the 2nd Daniel Farrar had a late Red Knot at the mouth of Tenmile
>> Creek in NW Coos. The latest spring record for Coos was 4 June by Daniel at
>> the same location in 2014.
>> Yesterday, the 4th, there were five Red-necked Phalarope at the old
>> Weyerhaeuser settling pond site on N Spit of Coos Bay. The latest spring
>> date I know of for this species is 15 June and was a bird that had been
>> around for over a week. The earliest arrival for this species is 24 June.
>> However, in 2015 there were singles on 18 and 20th June- late or early
>> birds??? Mid-June shorebirds can be difficult to call early or late
>> sometimes and could even be birds that never make it to the breeding
>> grounds versus birds already headed south from the breeding grounds.
>> Today saw five Whimbrel at Pony Slough in North Bend.
>> Listening for unfamiliar songs with my windows down as I drive around
>> town- the first two weeks of June the best time for vagrants on the coast-
>> since there is so much habitat they can show up just about anywhere...
>> Merry late migration!
>> Tim R
>> Coos Bay

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