Date: 5/10/19 9:21 pm
From: Thomas Gilg <tom...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Odd Hummer
Hi All,

Same as Lars, I’m seeing a tail that extends a little beyond the wing tips, which would suggest Rufous. Studying various Rufous pics online, “females/immatures” can also have throat spots. I wonder if female + immature doubles the ambiguity?

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From: <obol-bounce...> <obol-bounce...> On Behalf Of Lars Norgren
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 9:06 PM
To: Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...>
Cc: Bill Tice <ticebill7...>; obol <obol...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Odd Hummer

Most of these photos show a good clear image of folded wingtips and end of tail. In all cases the wing tips stop well short of the tail end, which is rounded. Calliopes have a notched tail, which accentuates the primary extension.

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 8:30 PM Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...><mailto:<timothydsteeves...>> wrote:

Sure looks a lot more like a female caliope to me than rufous. Lots of central spots on the throat indicate caliope female. However I will let the experts decide.

Timothy Steeves
Portland
Happy spring birding everyone!
Hi All,

I spent a few hours over in the Newport area today with my wife. While walking the paved trail from the S Jetty to South Beach, I photographed this hummer. I think it is a female rufous, but it is a little puzzling. Has a red bill base, which I suppose may be a result of its position related to the sun? But as long as I have seen hummers over the years, I have not encountered such except for those species which are known to have red on their bills. I originally thought maybe a calliope at first because of the light speckling on the throat, and especially since I need one for Lincoln County. It appeared short tailed from my original angle. But the photos I obtained are inconclusive it seems for tail length, as well as showing more rufous on the sides than what a calliope has. What do you think?

https://variousoregonbirdingpiks.blogspot.com/2019/05/mystery-hummer.html

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