Date: 4/30/19 8:50 am
From: Bob Archer <rabican1...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Clatsop Beach Piping Plover?
I see them on beaches in NJ, it would have screamed something very
different is sitting over here. But I will keep an open mind and eye this
weekend when I get down there.

Bob Archer

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:47 AM Wayne Hoffman <whoffman...> wrote:

> Hi, Lars -
> I have moderate experience with Piping Plovers. With the viewing
> conditions you described, I think the legs of a Piping Plover would have
> screamed at you "Look at me! Look at me first!." I think that the two
> species look more different in life than in Field Guide illustrations.
> Piping Plover looks like a leucistic Semipalmated Plover rather than like a
> Snowy with bright legs.
> Here in the Wilmington NC area, Red-headed Woodpeckers have just shown
> up. I am not sure where they wintered, but did not see any until this
> week, and now have found them in multiple places. Yesterday I was at
> Carolina Beach State Park and met a woman with binoculars who was trying to
> get looks at some noisy and active woodpeckers. She said "I think they are
> Red-headed or Red-bellied." Just then one flew across an opening in front
> of us. She asked, "Was that a Red-headed Woodpecker?" I replied, "No,
> Red-bellied. If it were Red-headed you would have seen the huge white wing
> patches." Then it flew into a tree just above our heads and showed us all
> the field marks we could have wanted, including red belly.
> Wayne
> On 4/30/2019 6:59:38 AM, Lars Norgren <larspernorgren...> wrote:
> "When you hear galloping, think 'horses' not 'zebras'." Dr. Moore, OHSU
> School of Dentistry. I identified 14 species of shorebird on Clatsop
> Beach between 2:30 and 4:30, one more between 4:30 and 6:30. What disturbs
> me about the Snowy Plover l reported in real time was its lack of stripes.
> No black on the forehead, no black on the upper chest. It was also
> extremely pale above, a good match for juvenile Piping Plover, a poorer
> match for immature Snowy Plover. I was busy posting the sighting, glancing
> at multiple birds around me. I never noted the leg color. If it had been
> yellow l would be somewhat confident it wasn't a Western Snowy Plover, our
> "horse" of the moment.
> I saw it at a distance of under 10m through 8x binocular. It was
> front lit, in stark contrast to so many afternoon Pacific beach birds. A
> foto on my smart phone probably could have zoomed up to provide useful
> details about bill and feet. Several of the world's experts on Snowy Plover
> read this list and should know better than l. Where in the molt cycle would
> last year's hatch of SNPL be now? How likely is a Piping Plover to be in
> juvenile or winter adult plumage on April 29?
> Greater Yellowlegs 1
> Marbled Godwit. 20
> Short-billed Dowitcher 35
> Dunlin. 80
> Western Sandpiper. 100
> Least Sandpiper. 20
> Sanderling. 30
> Red Knot. 20
> Whimbrel. 40
> Long-billed Curlew. 1
> Ruddy Turnstone. 1
> Semi-palmated Plover 10
> Black-bellied Plover. 20
> Pacific Golden Plover. 1
> "snowy" plover. 1

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