Date: 1/10/19 11:50 am From: James Pike <jimpike444...> Subject: Re: [OrangeCountyBirding] Mile Square Regional Park Expansion
The irony is that the trees on the Brookhurst-side of the golf course look better than those on the regional park side. It once took me eight visits to refind a Pine Warbler near the Brookhurst course as the bird spent most of its time in the well-foliaged long-needled pines on the course. Further, I suspect that orioles have been hard to find this winter as the red-flowering (ironbark) eucalyptus trees on the David L. Baker golf course look far fuller and more enticing than the over-trimmed ones off Ward Street or near the nature center. Why should that be the case, if not a function of policies that better serve the interests of park personnel rather than serving the needs of nature, birds and birders? And in that square-mile of land that encompasses a regional park and three golf courses, how many ponds are there that are currently devoid of water? I can only think of one.
Jim Pike HB
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 8:13 PM James Pike via Groups.Io <jimpike444= <gmail.com...> wrote:
> While an extension of the nature center works less logically with > the departure of the golf course bordering Brookhurst rather than that of > DLB, it doesn't negate the possibility. On the other hand, there is no > downside to greater birder access to the mature trees on that golf course. > Perhaps my focus will shift to urging park officials to leave the trees on > the course with their full carbon-absorbing potential intact rather than > emulating the anorexic appearance of far too many trees in our local parks > and neighborhoods. The end result would be a service to both birds and > birders. > > Jim Pike > HB > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:54 PM Vic Leipzig <vicleipzig...> wrote: > >> Jim, >> I followed up Chris' heads-up to us by contacting the county and >> getting a staff report from a Board of Supervisors meeting in March of >> 2018. (see attached). As I read the report, the golf course that will be >> converted to something else is not David L. Baker but rather the course >> immediately south of DLB, the one that lies in the dead center of Mile >> Square Park. DLB (along Edinger) and the third golf course (along Warner) >> will remain untouched. I think all your comments about vegetation remain >> perfectly valid. >> Vic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Pike <jimpike444...> >> To: <cris_whetstone_446...> <cris_whetstone_446...> >> Cc: Orangecountybirding <OrangeCountyBirding...> >> Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2019 5:15 pm >> Subject: Re: [OrangeCountyBirding] Mile Square Regional Park Expansion >> >> Thanks for sharing that information with the group. I agree that this is >> fantastic news. (I'd say 'tremendous' news, but that word has recently been >> ruined for me). For those that don't know, David L. Baker is the small >> rectangular golf course situated in the NW corner of Mile Square. It has >> some nice ponds and healthy red-flowering eucalyptus trees and could >> readily be converted into something that looks much like the rest of the >> park. However, there might be potential for that degraded area in the SW >> portion that is currently occupied by a driving range. Why not make it into >> an extension of the nature center that is just to the east of it? For >> example, while I like the desert plantings at the west end of the nature >> center, they're currently in the process of being swamped by other, more >> successful plants. Coyotebrush is the primary culprit, as it one of those >> few native plant species that is truly thriving in the hotter, drier 'new >> normal' of socal. A fresh start on desert plants could be initiated in this >> currently-empty (except for golf balls) location, one with desert willows, >> palo verdes, and plenty of plants with tubular flowers that would be >> attractive to hummingbirds. And hopefully there would be more than enough >> spiny plants to keep visitors on the trails, thus allowing the gates to be >> open on weekends. Anyway, I like the idea of the nature center being >> expanded, whatever would ultimately be planted there. When the times come >> for the city to seriously solicit ideas for how the land is to be used, >> that's the one I'll pitch. Chris, any additional updates you can provide us >> would be much appreciated. >> >> Jim Pike >> HB >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:47 PM Cris Whetstone via Groups.Io >> <cris_whetstone_446=<yahoo.com...> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I just saw on the Fountain Valley community Facebook group that there >> will be a meeting concerning an expansion of Mile Square Regional Park. >> Word is it will be the land that is now occupied by the David L Baker golf >> course. >> >> Seems like fantastic news. Hopefully there won't be more massive >> buildings like that new one off Euclid. >> >> Here is a link to the information about the meeting. It's next Wednesday, >> Jan 16th in that new "Freedom Hall" at Mile Square. >> >> http://www.ocparks.com/parks/mile/expansion >> >> Cheers >> -- >> --- >> Cris Whetstone >> Fountain Valley >> >> > >
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