Date: 12/23/18 9:48 pm
From: Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...>
Subject: [obol] Re: What a difference a day makes
I am a bit dissapointed by Harvey's comment about "oh for crying out loud,
the weather and on and on. It is all about where you live".

I have seen and heard many Marsh wrens in the Portland area, but not for a
couple of years.

Rather than be repremanded for thinking I am not looking in the right area,
why can't posters to OBOL be more helpful in offering explanations or
suggestions as to where we may find the bird in question. Eg: why have
they dissapeard at Smith and Bybee lakes? Is it global warming or some
other factor?

I think there are some very talented birders that post on OBOL, but
sometimes it seems like it is an elite club that puts down others that are
trying to learn from all the experts. I have learned a lot from all of
you, but it would be nice to be patient with some of our novice questions
that seem obvious to you all.

Thoughts?

Timothy Steeves
On Dec 23, 2018 8:26 PM, "HARVEY W SCHUBOTHE" <ninerharv2...> wrote:

> Oh, for crying out loud. It is all about where you live, the weather on
> and on. We have two south coast CBCs and I don't expect you will find Marsh
> Wrens missing or even low in number. Certainly not in my daily dog walks.
>
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> *Cc:* <celata...>; <obol...>
> *Subject:* [obol] Re: What a difference a day makes
>
> I thought that I saw a marsh wren on Sauvie Island, just before the
> blocked off road, a year ago.
>
> Robert Rotberg
> frequent visitor to Portland
>
> On Dec 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for bringing up the question of "where have all the marsh wrens
> gone", Mike. I have not seen or heard a marsh wren in a couple of years.
> They were pretty common at Smith and Bybee lakes in Portland and really
> miss them. I think they are my favorite wren for their beauty and for
> their mechanical songs and calls.
>
> Would like to hear from other birders where they might be found.
>
> Timothy Steeves
> On Dec 23, 2018 6:34 PM, "Mike Patterson" <celata...> wrote:
>
>> While many of you were out doing the hard work of stalking Inconguent
>> Egrets, I was trying to answer the question: Where have all the Marsh
>> Wrens gone?
>>
>> http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/
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>> Astoria, OR
>> That question...
>> http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/?p=3294
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