Date: 12/20/18 10:39 am
From: Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Cattle Egret / Intermediate Egret
I have seen Intermediate in Australia some years ago. I recall it being not much smaller than a Great but having more the “look” of a Little Blue Heron in neck and head shape and maybe behavior.


Alan Contreras
<acontrer56...>
Eugene, Oregon

www.alanlcontreras.com



> On Dec 20, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Daniel Farrar <jdanielfarrar...> wrote:
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> One feature I find interesting in Eric's photos is the difference in bill shape. The Great clearly has a slight down curve to the bill. The smaller egret looks much straighter. Not sure if that is an Intermediate trait, I have zero experience with the species.
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> Daniel
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> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 10:22 AM Sally Hill <1sallyhill.9...> <mailto:<1sallyhill.9...>> wrote:
> For clarification: Is it only Eric's photos that this person reviewed or is it some combination of Sylvia's and Pam's and Eric's? My Birds of Australia, (Pizzey and Knight) suggest that the Intermediate Egret is smaller and daintier than GREG with extended head and neck about equal to body length, head rounder, bill shorter and deeper and line of gape to just below eye , not past it as in GREG. When hunting peers with neck extended and stirs with foot. Flies with quicker wind beats than GREG. This reference fails to mention anything about a black tip on the bill. If your expert has any additional ID tips it would be helpful to know.
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> Sally Hill
> Eugene Oregon
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> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10...> <mailto:<jeffgilligan10...>> wrote:
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>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Eric Carlson <carl8630...> <mailto:<carl8630...>> wrote:
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>> I have photos of the slightly smaller looking Great Egret on my ebird checklist if anyone is interested in looking at them.
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>> https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S50700675 <https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S50700675>
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>> Bird up,
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>> ERIC
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> See:
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> https://ebonph.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/ask-the-experts-2/ <https://ebonph.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/ask-the-experts-2/>
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> Hello Eric and all:
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> A very seasoned Asian birding expert sent me an email suggesting that the bird looks right for an Intermediate Egret. I can’t be sure if there is or isn’t a dark tip to the bill into photos. As Dave Irons wrote, Intermediate Egrets usually have a dark tipped bill, but apparently not always.
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> I hope someone gets sharper photos. I also hope no one does, because if it is an Intermediate Egret, I don’t want to fly back to Oregon from Tucson for it (like I have for two other birds in past years).
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> Great Egrets do of course vary in size based on sex, and somewhat so by individual.
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> Jeff Gilligan
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