Date: 12/16/18 9:56 pm
From: Craig Tumer <craig...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Cattle =?UTF-8?Q?Egret??Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 22:55:31 -0700
I agree with Shawneen. It is definitely not a Cattle Egret. After looking
at the photos, I also wondered if it could be an Intermediate Egret.
I've seen Intermediate Egrets alongside Great Egrets in Africa, but
that was more than 12 years ago. I also agree that it is more likely a
small Great Egret than an Intermediate Egret, but it would be nice to
see better photos of the bird.
Craig TumerPortland.

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Subject: [obol] Re: Cattle Egret?
From: Shawneen Finnegan <shawneenfinnegan...>
Date: Sun, December 16, 2018 9:33 pm
To: <acontrer56...>
Cc: OBOL <obol...>

Dave and I looked for the egret today and didn’t see any that
weren’t Great Egrets.
We looked at Pam’s photos and I can say with confidence that it
is not a Cattle Egret. It is too big and long necked. Many of the
photos show it down in the ditch so that it is difficult to assess
the actual size — but even with that it is far too big for a
In a private message Doug Robinson wondered if it could be
Intermediate Egret, an Old World species that occurs from Africa
to the Philippines. There is one record for Alaska of a deceased
bird found on Buldir in the far western Aleutian Islands. Doug is
not on OBOL and asked me to post this info.
The article linked below is a good resource for separating Great
Egret from Intermediate, as they are hard to tell apart without
seeing them up close or having good photos of the head that show
how far the gape extends. The re is also a neck and head shape
difference (see link below).
More info about the Buldir bird is in their article link here:
Using Occam’s Razor theory this is far more likely a small
female or a young Great Egret rather than the mega-rare
Intermediate Egret. In some of the photos the neck shows a kink in
it, in others the kink is not appare nt.
Shawneen FinneganBeaverton
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Alan Contreras <acontrer56...>

Are there any photos of the Washburn Lane Cattle Egret
adjacent to Greats? It seems a little large in body, but hard
to tell from single pics.

Alan <Contrerasacontrer56...>, Oregon

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