Date: 12/6/18 4:28 pm
From: Timothy Steeves <timothydsteeves...>
Subject: [obol] Re: "Rare" Song Sparrows in Oregon - photos requested in eBird
Thanks for setting the record straight, all. This bird fooled a lot of my
long time birding friends, too, that I consulted with before suggesting it
was a Lincoln's. I learn more and more from OBOL, and appreciate all of
the feedback.

Happy birding!

Tim Steeves
On Dec 6, 2018 10:13 AM, "DJ Lauten and KACastelein" <deweysage...>

> Hi Tim
> This is definitely a Song Sparrow and not a Lincoln's. Note how there is
> no buffy wash across the upper breast, and the streaking is heavy and not
> fine. Lincoln's have fine streaking. But a field mark that all Song's
> show that I learned many years ago is that heavy triangular patch on each
> side of the upper breast and below the below. This strongly marked
> triangular patch is a field mark on all forms of Song Sparrows. Check it
> out on any Song you see in the future. Note how Lincoln's does not have
> this patch - never is it as prominent and heavy. Hope that helps.
> Cheers
> Dave Lauten
> On 12/5/2018 7:50 PM, Timothy Steeves wrote:
> Of the photos I have seen, I am leaning toward Lincoln's sparrow rather
> than Song. All feathers seem to be much closer to Lincoln's rather than
> Song. Buffy breast, fine streaking on breast and back, small central spot
> and white lower breast.
> I will leave it to the experts to make the final decision on whether it
> is, in fact, a Song Sparrow.
> Tim Steeves
> On Dec 4, 2018 12:01 PM, "Russ Namitz" <namitzr...> wrote:
>> Although ID is still being researched, I validated the following report
>> so that the public could view these photos.
>> Earlier I talked about subspecies and subspecific groups in eBird while
>> using SONG SPARROW as an example. As a quick aside, I don't think it
>> matters too much if one uses the general name like SONG SPARROW or the
>> subspecies/subspecific group that is known to breed in a particular area
>> (e.g. SONG SPARROW (heermanni Group) for Brookings, OR). It really does't
>> make the "data" stronger by stating the known breeding subspecies group.
>> The trouble and where it DOES matter is where the zone of overlap happens
>> and observers start *assuming* subspecies/subspecific group. Somewhere
>> along the southcentral Oregon coast, the SONG SPARROW (rufina Group) and
>> the SONG SPARROW (heermanni Group) overlap. I suspect that it happens in
>> Coos County, but it may be further north or possibly even south. I honestly
>> have not researched enough and it is out of my area of expertise at the
>> moment.
>> But that brings me to the eBird link above. I think that this SONG
>> SPARROW belongs to the Central/Eastern US subspecific group of SONG SPARROW
>> (melodia/atlantica)....and that perhaps it is the first photo documented
>> record for Oregon. However, it was brought to my attention that Jim
>> Hardman & Phil Redlinger photographed a very similar individual on Nov 30th
>> while searching for the Lane County Harris's Sparrow (OBOL message on
>> 11/30/2018).
>> Anyway, kind of my whole point is that I am very guilty of just passing
>> over Song Sparrows and that, from now on, I will be taking a closer look,
>> especially in winter and look for the variety that might be out there.
>> Cheers,
>> Russ Namitz
>> Coos/Curry/Grant/Harney eBird Reviewer

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