Date: 11/23/18 10:14 pm
From: Hendrik Herlyn <hhactitis...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Harlan or not?
Tom makes an excellent point about the wings-to-tail ratio. I forgot to
mention that. In fact, that was one of the clinchers I used several years
ago when a beautiful dark-morph Rough-leg showed up at the Prairie Overlook
at Finley NWR to safely separate the bird from a Harlan's Hawk (that
Roughie spent at least 4 subsequent winters at the overlook).

Happy raptoring

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:42 PM Tom McNamara <tmcmac67...> wrote:

> Yep, dark morph Roughleg. In addition to points others have made a few
> things to note:
> -- whitish nape spot is good for roughies
> -- ditto the whitish forehead and lores
> -- the wingtips are a little longer than the end of the tail (redtail's
> wings don't reach the end of the tail)
> -- and lastly-- look where this bird is perched... way out in the flimsy
> twigs of this tree. This is a known habit for roughlegs most buteos prefer
> more robust perch sites.
> good birding, Tom
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018, 9:12 PM Craig Miller <gismiller...> wrote:
>> Nagi and all,
>> I agree with Hendrik that this is most likely a dark morph Rough-legged
>> Hawk. A black wrist mark, typical on Rough-legged Hawk, is just visible on
>> the underwing in flight in the 4th photo. The lack of any white speckling
>> on the back tends to rule against Red-tailed Hawk subspecies. In the last
>> two photos, a very dark band along the tip of the tail contrasts with a
>> slightly lighter tail proximally, ruling out dark morph Ferruginous Hawk,
>> and also not so good for Harlan's Hawk. Dark morph hawks can truly be a
>> challenge!
>> Cheers,
>> Craig Miller
>> Bend, Oregon
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:26 PM Nagi Aboulenein <
>> <nagi.aboulenein...> wrote:
>>> Hi All -
>>> While sifting through the many dozens of Red-tailed Hawks that we saw
>>> today at Lower Klamath NWR, one stood out as a possible Harlan candidate.
>>> Some aspects seem to point to Harlan, while others cast some doubt on that
>>> proposition.
>>> Pro-Harlan aspects:
>>> - Solid dark brown, except for a little bit of white on/near head
>>> and around nose.
>>> - No rufous coloration anywhere
>>> - Tail feathers were solid dark brown and vent area was white or
>>> light buff
>>> Anti-Harlan aspects:
>>> - Lack of white tail - some references say Harlan’s can have dark
>>> tails, others insist on the white tail?
>>> Photos of dark-morph Harlan’s were hard to find online, so we were
>>> unable to compare our bird’s photos.
>>> Anyways, looking for comments/thoughts regarding this bird. A couple of
>>> photos attached below.
>>> Lastly - regardless of Harlan or not - what a beauty of a bird!
>>> Good birding,
>>> Nagi & Taghrid

Hendrik G. Herlyn
Corvallis, OR

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