Date: 10/17/18 3:35 pm
From: Bob Archer <rabican1...>
Subject: [obol] Re: Odd sea duck persists @ Seaside Cove--Eider retraction
Anyone see a pale belly on it? That would help age it, I think all scoters have pale bellies as birds hatched this year.

Bob Archer

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Philip Kline <pgeorgekline...> wrote:
>
> I don't think it helps much with this bird, but the guide linked below is a useful reference to bookmark.
>
> https://www.birdguides.com/articles/identification/velvet-white-winged-and-stejnegers-scoters-id-photo-guide/
>
>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 2:33 PM Bob Archer <rabican1...> wrote:
>> With the white speculum have to think of a variation of White-winged Scoter, juvenile, with lots of white on head. I don’t suppose young Stejneger’s Scoters show that much white on head. Eager to look at Reeber when I get home.
>>
>> Bob Archer
>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 2:12 PM, DianaByrne <diana.byrne...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some digiscoped photos and animated GIFs (video clips) of the odd sea duck that David and I observed at The Cove in Seaside the morning:
>>>
>>> http://cannonbeachbirder.blogspot.com/2018/10/seaside-cove.html
>>>
>>> Diana Byrne
>>>
>>>
>>> Odd sea duck persists @ Seaside Cove--Eider retraction
>>>
>>> From: David Bailey <davidcbaileyoregon@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:34:16 -0700
>>> Diana Byrne and I hiked out to past first point at The Cove (Seaside,
>>> Clatsop County) after Mike left for family errands. Just before eleven
>>> o'clock I relocated the pale-faced sea duck a fair ways out from shore to
>>> the north. It was loosely associating with an adult male White-winged
>>> Scoter. Diana got on the bird too and obtained digi-scoped photos and video
>>> of the subject. Today we were able to see the upperwing as the bird
>>> stretched its wings fully out a couple of times in excellent light. The
>>> bird showed bright white specula (speculums) that one would expect for
>>> White-winged Scoter. The bird appeared slightly smaller than the male WW
>>> Scoter nearby. The face, bill, and headshape did not connote a scoter at
>>> all, even though I tried to see it as such.
>>>
>>> I am still not sure what to make of the identification of this bird.
>>> Perhaps the most likely is that it is a female/immature White-winged Scoter
>>> with an oddly plumage face--the face is white the bill is gray; the dark at
>>> the hind crown extends from the back of the head to the eye in a narrow
>>> line; the head seems more rounded and the bill more dabbling-duck-like than
>>> scoter.... I would not dismiss the possibility of this duck being some sort
>>> of hybrid either, though I know that is probably the less likely
>>> explanation. The head just doesn't seem scoter. Again the distance that we
>>> viewed the bird did not allow detailed observation of subtle features and
>>> my impression of the head shape and bill may be an artifact of the lighting
>>> and the white-face etc. Diana will post photos and hopefully video that may
>>> reveal more details.
>>>
>>> I hope that the bird will afford closer observation as the season
>>> progresses. It has been very interesting so far and I for one have learned
>>> quite a bit.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> David C. Bailey
>>> Seaside, Oregon

 
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