Date: 6/27/18 10:26 pm
From: Thomas Miko <thomas_miko...> [LACoBirds] <LACoBirds-noreply...>
Subject: [LACoBirds] Re: More than one bulbul species?
Kimball et al,

This report looks like it's smack in the middle of City of Hope. My job has me at City of Hope on an irregular basis, and in between sometimes I bird the place on the weekends, or on the way home from work, as my "go to" Bulbul location. There are a lot of bulbuls on campus at City of Hope. A lot. Mornings, however, are better for these birds. If this species is around, this is an optimal location to hunt for them.

It's interesting that they haven't pushed too far into the opposite direction i.e. eastwards.

Tom Miko

From: <LACoBirds...> <LACoBirds...> on behalf of Kimball Garrett <kgarrett...> [LACoBirds] <LACoBirds-noreply...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 4:23:56 PM
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Subject: [LACoBirds] More than one bulbul species?


As you know, Red-whiskered Bulbuls (Pycnonotus jocosus) are now common and widespread through much of the San Gabriel Valley and west into Atwater, portions of the Hollywood Hills, the eastern San Fernando Valley, and even recently in the Bel Air/Westwood area. This spread and increase in numbers shows no sign of slowing down.

Years ago Camm Swift, a now-retired Ichthyology curator here at the Natural History Museum, reported small numbers of Red-vented Bulbuls (P. cafer) in the Arcadia area, but that population (or those few escaped individuals) never seemed to take hold. But today I noticed this eBird checklist from Duarte, with two photos of what look to me like a Red-vented Bulbul (along with a photo of a Red-whiskered):

So please scrutinize your bulbuls – especially in the Arcadia/Duarte area.. It would be nice to know if Red-vented Bulbuls are getting a foothold, or whether we’re just getting the odd escaped individual. They differ from Red-whiskered in having an entirely blackish-dusky head and chest, with a brownish auricular patch and some dark scalloping on the upper breast. The crest is shorter than that of the Red-whiskered. Both species have bright red undertail coverts. The song is somewhat similar to that of Red-whiskered, but they also give scratchy, gruff call notes that I have not heard from Red-whiskered. Xeno-canto has good recordings of both species.


Kimball L. Garrett

Ornithology Collections Manager

Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County

900 Exposition Blvd.

Los Angeles, CA 90007 USA

(213) 763-3368


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