Date: 5/13/18 6:36 pm
From: Jeffrey Short <bashman...>
Subject: Re: Killing Black Vultures
I would think depredation of vultures, reinforced by effigies, may have a
stronger deterrent effect.

The Eglin vultures (to my knowledge) weren't involved in vandalism, which
could offer a different reinforcement than just hangin' around.

Jeff Short

-----Original Message-----
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Killing Black Vultures

Effigy use is a technique USDA-APHIS-WS uses in Arkansas at the vehicle
damage sites. It has mixed results.

A number of years ago, a woman from Heber Springs sent me a video of
vultures tearing up, and tearing into, all the seat cushions on their party
barge. From what I could see, no cushion was left intact. I counted 9
Turkey Vultures involved in the activity.


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> On May 13, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Jeffrey Short <bashman...> wrote:
> One of my USAF colleagues ran a marina in So. California and he told me
about vultures tearing up his boat seats. First I had heard of that so some
property damage may occur. Wonder if the off-gassing of plastic tends to
resemble garbage or dead animals??
> I would expect that some Black Vultures may be attracted to cattle,
especially sick or bloody areas.
> Eglin AFB used vulture effigies to keep them from using communication
towers as roost sites.
> Jeff Short
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
[mailto:<ARBIRD-L...>] On Behalf Of George R. Hoelzeman
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 12:43 PM
> To: <ARBIRD-L...>
> Subject: Killing Black Vultures
> There's an article in the current (Spring 2018) Arkansas Agriculture
> magazine about Black Vultures by Keith Sutton. It rehashes the usual
> stuff about them killing calves but goes on to talk about them tearing
> up vehicles, etc., which I've never heard (not that I hear much). The
> article provides information on one form of non-lethal prevention
> (pyrotechnics, which gets about two sentences) then launches into an
> extended discussion about depredation permits and the need to relax
> regulations so people can pretty much kill them at leisure.
> So, questions: Has anyone else seen this article? If so, how much of
> it is valid and how much is just "agitating the base". Some of this
> seems rather over the top (like 50+ vultures mobbing a cow during
> delivery) and a lot seems more about weakening the Migratory Bird Act.
> The article does reference a statistic from the USDA on damage to cattle
> caused by vultures ($4.65 million/year) so it has the appearance of
> legitimacy.
> Before I go arguing the vultures' case (I happen to like Black Vultures,
> but haven't had to deal with them in numbers) I'd like solid and
> reliable information.
> Input anyone?
> Thanks
> George (n. Conway Co. with nesting vultures, but no roost and no cattle)
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