Date: 5/1/18 7:14 am
From: Bill Thurman <bill.masterofmusic...>
Subject: Re: Rachael Carson and "enviro-fascists"
Thank you, Jay! What I really feel is a profound sadness. "heartbroken"
does not really apply to me. More than anything else I feel a Severe and
Serious disappointment. Everything "noble" that I've ever been taught all
my life practically seems meaningless now.


On Tue, May 1, 2018, 08:57 Jay Jones <jonesjay62...> wrote:

> For years the environmental activist’s mantra was “Save the Earth”!! That
> call was naive — or worse, disingenuous — it should have been “Save the
> Humans”. That mantra change may have caught the attention of the public
> more forcefully.
> The pale blue dot we humans now occupy will rebound quite nicely once it’s
> most destructive species (Homo Sapiens) has been rendered extinct, by it’s
> own arrogance and blind self-interest. The pity is that many innocent
> species of plants and animals will precede us.
> Bill, I share your perspective, for what it’s worth. I shudder at what
> lies ahead for future generations of life on Earth.
> Sent from my iPhone
> On May 1, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Bill Thurman <bill.masterofmusic...>
> wrote:
> I'll make my comments as brief as possible. The human race is on a
> collision course with Reality, worse than any "asteroid " that they could
> have ever dreamed of. With 8 billion and more coming they will have gone
> beyond the pale. They ("we") are now the ultimate junk species. All birds
> are sacred compared with a species like "us". When the numbers have spun
> further out of control than they are now, wildlife and rare species will be
> devastated to a point that makes "now" look mild. The most horrifying
> plagues of new diseases, wars and environmental breakdowns will occur and
> the earth will be littered with dead humans everywhere, thereby bringing
> some relief to all the madness. Somehow the earth will survive "us" but
> it's a gigantic question whether "we" will survive the hell that we've made
> of the earth. That's all for now, folks.
> Bluewater Bill - Bill Thurman
> PS you can sanctimoniously criticize all you want. I don't give a damn.
> On Tue, May 1, 2018, 08:01 Judy & Don <9waterfall9...> wrote:
>> Thank you for that, DeLynn. Of course that is also my understanding, but
>> I am surrounded by people whose interpretation is quite the opposite.
>> Judith
>> Ninestone
>> On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:04 PM, Warbling Vireo <0000001d24760ffa-
>> <dmarc-request...> wrote:
>> My own (Christian) study of the Bible brings me to the conclusion that
>> the God of my understanding expects environmental stewardship. One of the
>> clearest, most succinct verses on that is Leviticus
>> <> 25:23
>> "The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you
>> are but aliens and my tenants."
>> Now back specifically to birds.
>> D. DeLynn Hearn
>> 317 West K Ave.
>> N. Little Rock, AR 72116
>> (501)472-8769
>> On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Joseph C. Neal <joeneal...>
>> <joeneal...>> wrote:
>> In my comments at Friday's evening's Arkansas Audubon Society meeting in
>> Bentonville, I mentioned biologist Rachael Carson and her book, Silent
>> Spring. She wrote passionately and factually about the impact of DDT and
>> other chemicals on birds, people, and the environment. I have always
>> thought the core of her books and beliefs involved alerting Americans to
>> how our evolving culture was changing our world, and why we should be
>> concerned about it. I thought the central point in Silent Spring was
>> relevant 50 years ago, and remains relevant today, even if our
>> understanding of some aspects of pesticides and herbicides have changed. I
>> told people at the meeting our generation needs more Rachael Carsons. We
>> need to keep looking at how we impact the environment -- both the good and
>> the bad. It is all relevant.
>> I read the review (link below), then went to the "comments" section, and
>> was surprised that some people believe Silent Spring was actually the "Mein
>> Kampf" of what some view as "enivor-fascists."
>> People who think people, birds, and other life forms must equably share
>> Earth as our only home -- and don't think Earth is exclusively for humans
>> -- are "enviro-fascists"? Who would have thunk a good boy like me raised
>> in Fort Smith, democracy, and an upright Southern Baptist home, and played
>> high school football, would actually turn out to be an "enviro-fascist"? I
>> watch birds and I vote. I'll leave the debate there.
>> Here's the article (thanks to Barry Haas for the tip) and be sure and go
>> to the "comments" section in order to see if you are also an
>> "enviro-fascist":
>> <>
>> ‘Silent Spring & Other Writings’ Review: The Right and ...
>> <>
>> It is strange to read Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring” today, more than 50
>> years after its publication, in a handsome new edition from the Library of
>> America. At the time the book hit the shelves, it read as a relentless,
>> densely factual indictment of the world’s growing use of industrial ...

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