Date: 4/29/18 6:05 pm
From: Janice Frye via VA-bird <va-bird...>
Subject: Re: [VA-bird] FW: REALLY excessive use of bird call
I can't be the only one wondering what your goal is here. You disapprove
of citizen science, disapprove of leaving the yard to bird, criticize
driving to bird or conduct silent surveys with research protocols, etc. No
one is going to obey all your rules. You disapprove, we know, time to end
this thread.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 11:39 AM Marlene A Condon <marlenecondon...>

> I could be wrong, but it seems as if folks are trying hard to deny that
> unethical behavior occurs in the birding community. Yet I'd be surprised
> if there's anyone on this list serve who hasn't witnessed the overuse of
> bird recordings, especially on field trips.
> As for whether what I heard could have been an actual owl, I'm very
> familiar with how owls behave as I've had microphones outside for about 30
> years, 24/7. I've never heard an owl of any type repeat itself
> approximately every 30 seconds for 15 minutes straight and then start again
> in a new position an hour later for the next 5 hours!
> The calling was much too rapid and the spacing of the "sessions" was much
> too regular. Additionally, the "owl" followed the roadway up the mountain
> and back down again in a somewhat semicircular arc, a route no real owl
> would need to follow.
> I might also point out that Barred Owls, I'm sad to say, are no longer
> commonly heard here, which I know from having microphones. Yes, I wake up
> for wildlife sounds--like a mother with a baby--and record anything
> happening at night, from insects to birds to mammals.
> What I heard was artificial in nature, and believe me, I do know nature.
> Sincerely,
> Marlene
> In a message dated 4/28/2018 8:01:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> <va-bird...> writes:
> Is it possible that this could have actually been a Barred Owl trying to
> make contact with a missing mate or fledgling? Did you see a human being
> way up on the mountain or driving along the roads to the north of where you
> live?? Sounds like it was sort of dark and far away.
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018, 7:23 PM <kurtcapt87...> wrote:
> > Even worse, it encourages people to complain about non-events.
> >
> > K
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 3:40 PM
> > To: <va-bird...>
> > Subject: [VA-bird] REALLY excessive use of bird call
> >
> > On Saturday, September 21, starting at 5:37 PM and continuing until after
> > 10 PM, I heard "who cooks for you" for about 15 minutes of every
> hour!!!!!
> >
> > I don't know for a fact, but I am assuming someone was trying to
> determine
> > if there were any Barred Owls in this area as he/she made his/her way up
> > the mountain behind me and along the roadways to the north of where I
> live.
> >
> > This use of the Barred Owl call seems far too excessive to be a birder
> > doing this just for his/her own knowledge, so I'm wondering if it was for
> > the atlasing project that is taking place. A downside of citizen science
> > is that it encourages some folks to believe the ends justify the means.
> > It's sad to say, but I witness this belief way too often.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Marlene
> >
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