Date: 2/8/18 3:40 pm
From: Alexandra MacKenzie <mizmak...>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Need Raptor ID Help
UPDATE: Between Tweeter comments (some made privately) and Flickr
comments, I have about half Broad-winged Hawk IDs and half Cooper's Hawk
IDs, but a Flickr commenter just suggested immature Northern Goshawk, which
looks good, too! Awaiting final determination from Bud Anderson. Thanks
for all the input, everybody--hawks are hard!

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Stewart Wechsler <ecostewart...>

> Alex,
> I would agree with your first assessment, that it is indeed a Cooper's
> Hawk. Look at how narrow the final black band is on the tail, and compare
> it to photos on the internet of Broad-winged Hawks, with broader final
> black bands, and may be fewer black bands. That said, I am not certain it
> isn't a Sharp-shinned Hawk. It would be helpful to get an idea of the
> size, crow-sized for a Cooper's , big jay sized for a Sharp-shinned, but
> the tail on your photo shows the better rounding at the end, that is more a
> feature of the Cooper's Hawk, while the Sharp-shinned is a bit more
> squarred at the end, at times with a better defined notch in the center.
> Also, we don't get many Broad-winged Hawks in our area, which is partly why
> I always want to know where a photo was taken, ideally with some habitat
> information..
> -Stewart Wechsler
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 08:09:22 -0800
>> From: Alexandra MacKenzie <mizmak...>
>> Subject: [Tweeters] Need Raptor ID Help
>> To: tweeters <tweeters...>
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>> In Sep 2014 I took a photo of a hawk at Magnuson Park in Seattle and
>> posted
>> it on Flickr as a Cooper's Hawk. Recently a birder commented that he
>> thought it was a Broad-winged Hawk. I thought that unlikely but am now
>> confused by his field mark comments. The photo and comments may be found
>> here:
>> If the experts can weigh in, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>> Thank you,
>> Alex MacKenzie
>> Seattle
>> <mizmak...>

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