Date: 2/4/18 10:37 am
From: Jack Rogers <jack...>
Subject: Re: Tufted Duck on Bulls not seen today
In fact, one birder on the ABA RBA Facebook page, Martin Reid, is already
calling this bird a hybrid:
"The flanks on the presumed TUDU are not white, but very pale grayish, such
that there is a thin whiter line separating the flanks from the black
upperparts and undertail coverts. This is wrong for pure TUDU, which has
pure white underparts that lack any paler line where the flanks meet the
upperparts (rarely some can have darker imm. flank feathers, but this
creates the opposite effect whereby a darker line is present between the
black upperparts and the white underparts). The one pic with the head
raised in not very helpful, but suggests to me a less-than-classic TUDU
head shape.
I lean towards this being a hybrid TUDUxRNDU."
I have no experience with neither Tufted Duck nor any of the hybrids. Just
passing along this info for those who refuse to use "that loathsome

Jack Rogers
Mt Pleasant, SC

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Jack Rogers <jack...> wrote:

> I'm obviously not one of the reviewers, but considering the bird is:
> 1) An ABA rarity (Code 3)
> 2) A state first
> 3) A Carolinas second (only other record is the 2009 Winston-Salem bird,
> as I'm sure many of you know)
> 4) From a species well known to hybridize with several other species
> (Tufted x Scaup, in particular, can be a hard ID)
> I think that perhaps a little time might bode well for accuracy purposes
> (not saying I don't believe that this bird in particular is indeed a Tufted
> Duck. David is a great birder for finding this bird!). Not to mention the
> other birds throughout the state needing to be reviewed. It's a tough
> job! Kudos to em.
> Jack Rogers
> Mt Pleasant, SC
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Harry LeGrand <carolinabirds...>
> wrote:
>> Question to you South Carolina folks: Why has the record of Tufted Duck,
>> with 10 excellent and confirming photographs on the eBird report, not yet
>> been accepted by eBird -- yet all of the other Bulls Island rare birds for
>> the same day (Feb. 2) and yesterday have been accepted? This has been done
>> intentionally, but why? If I were the observers/photographers .....
>> Harry LeGrand
>> Raleigh
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 8:59 PM, David McLean <carolinabirds...>
>> wrote:
>>> Sat 3 Feb 2018
>>> All,
>>> I was back on Bulls Island today on a field trip with the Charleston
>>> Natural History Society. Along with a few other birders chasing the Tufted
>>> Duck reported from Jack's Creek yesterday, we had numerous scopes looking
>>> for the one Tufted Duck among a raft of 1600 Lesser Scaup and Ruddy Ducks
>>> but came up empty. I feel that we had a better than even chance of seeing
>>> the Tufted Duck had it been there in that large raft.
>>> When we were watching the Tufted Duck yesterday, Friday, it behaved
>>> as though it was right at home. It was resting among many other ducks, was
>>> interacting with those others as though it was just another Lesser Scaup,
>>> and appeared well settled. Jack's is a big impoundment with many large open
>>> areas that the LESC seem to favor, and we were unable to look into most of
>>> those other areas today. The Tufted Duck could have easily been in another
>>> area of Jack's. Hopefully if will be re-sighted by others in the next few
>>> days.
>>> Regards,
>>> David McLean
>>> Charleston, SC
>>> --
>>> David C. McLean, Jr.
>>> DCMcLean AT gmail DOT com
> --
> Jack Rogers
> Mt Pleasant, SC
> My Flickr page < >

Jack Rogers
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