Date: 2/2/18 10:13 am
From: Robert O'Brien <baro...>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] Diversion for whom?
Of course, this is just one, non-ornithologist's personal Tweet
(I mean opinion).

Bob OBrien Portland

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Robert O'Brien <baro...> wrote:

> Well, since Mitch posed his post as a question, I'll answer it, although
> it took me a few
> days to realize it _may_ have been directed to my post about Thayer's Gull
> vs. the AOU
> (American Ornithologists Union). It was a snide remark, but it wasn't
> directed towards
> or about the president. It was directed against the AOU. Now whether one
> admires
> the president or the opposite, I think most would agree that his Tweets
> (remember,
> this is 'Twitter') use colorful language, which is very much personal to
> him and very
> effective in getting his opinions across. Being a sarcastic s.o.b myself,
> I am often
> in awe of his vocabulary and manner of speaking. So, in this case I did
> borrow
> (plagiarize) from his frequent Tweets. But, it was in admiration for his
> style
> and was directed solely at the AOU, whom I have long believed to make
> inconsistent (capricious? well, maybe not quite) judgement on speciation
> of 'our'
> North American Birds. I strongly disagree with the current lumped status
> of
> Iceland/Thayer's Gull and Audubon/Myrtle Warblers, not based upon a desire
> to tic
> two more species, (I still 'count' the 4 individually) but because it is
> inconsistent
> with other splits, for instance Pacific Slope vs. Cordilleran Flycatcher
> and
> Dusky vs. Sooty Grouse both of which splits are justified (to my
> interpretation)
> currently (and even originally) based on insufficient evidence. Or, if
> splits/lumps are to be made on the basis of one closely related pair then
> they
> should apply to the other pair.
> Bob OBrien Portland
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:33 AM, Mitch <biglou22...> wrote:
>> Could anyone explain how a birding forum has anything to do with personal
>> views of politics? Tangential topics about new laws or proposals that
>> impact birds and wildlife make sense, but how are unsolicited snide
>> comments and backhanded remarks about the President of the United States of
>> any value or relation to a site about bird sightings? And also I wonder how
>> this is a diversion if you actively bring up what you are supposedly
>> diverting from (many hours before the event would even take place mind
>> you)? It certainly isn't a diversion for me to hear anyone's political
>> views, once again, on a forum about birds.
>> Mitchell
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